poofyhairguy
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Where is the value in Ethereum over any other crypto that has come and gone after the initial people cashed out.
It's all about smart contracts like the DAO.
Where is the value in Ethereum over any other crypto that has come and gone after the initial people cashed out.
Thanks for the info
If you can't give more than a "Its amazing!" as an answer to the question of "Why would I want to use Ethereum" and then telling the person to google it, why even both answering at all?
I wasn't asking "Why should I mine it". I was asking "Why should I use it." Where is the value in Ethereum over any other crypto that has come and gone after the initial people cashed out.
Good to know. When I see 2x8 pin power adapters I get a little concerned. I purposely avoided 390's like this for a few reasons. Suspected increase in power usage and the fact you only get so many 8 pin adapeters per power supply. 6+8 is ideal. All you folks bumbed out you got reference cards should just optimise them as the volterra VRM's allow for awesome power savings when undervolted, they're likely better for mining than the Tri-X if you can handle the noise.
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EDIT: Amazon is a ***** company. They lowered the price of the Nano on me 30 minutes after I order so I cancel my order to reorder at the lowered price because they don't price adjust their own items! (this all happened within an hour) however after I cancel they jack the price up immediately to $50.00 more hah. I was so pissed I called in and they wouldn't help me at all. I ended up cancelling my Prime membership and won't be ordering from them ever again. I'll be cancelling my account as soon as I can xfer my GC to someone else. Sorry for the </rant>.
Guess I'll stick to NewEgg.
Btw, I do not recommend Vapor-X 290s for mining! They are absolute power hogs. Something happens to them at clockspeeds above 990 MHz (default is higher than that) that causes them to pull anywhere from 25-40W more than what can be justified by their performance. Perf/watt is terrible. I haven't figured out how to deal with the inexplicable jump in power consumption at such speeds.
So why would I want to mine Eth? What benefit is there to it as a currency over bitcoin? I mean I realize that it has value now, but what is that value based on? Why spend the time, money on mining it when it could just lose all value right after I've mined it (like many have in the past ).
The DAO has raised over $155 million worth of ether in the last couple weeks and it's still increasing. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.Good question!!
NONE reason to have so match value atm!!!
Bitcoin is USED for money transfer, also its mined and fairly decentralized
Ethereum is NONE of that, and on top of it its PRIMINED bu 90+ % which in crypto world is PURE SCAM!!!!!
Sure I mine it from the start, I love it!!!!!! I dump all and make profit from ethereum, and that IT IS!
I am not saying ethereum in future will not have some real usable usage, but with atm value NEVER. who is insane to pay insane $$ for GAS or Ethereum to use it for some lame project?????
You read TONS of projects on ethereum but IS THERE ONE USABE in which ppl will put lots of money???
No there is none, you read tons of papers of possibilities and project and at the end you don`t understand it at all, its the way ethereum group operates! for that thay had success to sell something ppl don not even understand!
The DAO has raised over $155 million worth of ether in the last couple weeks and it's still increasing. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
I wonder if the Tri-X on sale at NewEgg has the same power consumption issues. I can't see Sapphire making multiple PCB's or different VRM layouts but anything's possible.
Have you tried underclocking / undervolting? Does the card have a dual bios? You may just have a high default voltage that many of these "OC" editions come flashed as. A custom bios with a lower default VID may be of need if Afterburner doesn't do the trick. What is the ASIC rating of your card?
What are you guys using as an exchange? Kraken?
I wouldnt mind mining to finance my next video card purchase. What are you opinions on the GTX970 for mining? I also have a 7990 sitting around, but it would require build a Frankenstein computer to see it mining.
I'm having issues trying to get 4 GPUs to play nice on my 1150 Maximus VI Hero board. I've got a 980Ti in the first PCI-E 3.0 slot (red), a 380 in the 2nd 3.0 slot (red), and then two 390's in the 1st and 2nd PCI-E x1 slots via USB riser cables.
The problem I run into is with all 4 GPUs mining, I get hitching and visible screen slow down. Hashrate also goes in the pits. If I run the three Radeon cards alone, they do fine. I previously had 2 380's and the 980Ti running together without issue. My thinking is that I've oversaturated the PCI-E lanes.
Ideas?
I'm having issues trying to get 4 GPUs to play nice on my 1150 Maximus VI Hero board. I've got a 980Ti in the first PCI-E 3.0 slot (red), a 380 in the 2nd 3.0 slot (red), and then two 390's in the 1st and 2nd PCI-E x1 slots via USB riser cables.
The problem I run into is with all 4 GPUs mining, I get hitching and visible screen slow down. Hashrate also goes in the pits. If I run the three Radeon cards alone, they do fine. I previously had 2 380's and the 980Ti running together without issue. My thinking is that I've oversaturated the PCI-E lanes.
Ideas?
I doubt that you're saturating the PCIe lanes. You should be using up 8x on each 16x slot and then you're using 1x per 1x PCIe slot via the PCH which grants an extra 4 lanes. Have you tried relegating the first 390 to a riser plugged into the second 3.0 slot?
Do you have adequate PSU for all 4 cards mining? Just something to check. Mining shouldn't take much PCIE bandwidth.
It's possible. I suspect my problems with the Vapor-X stem from the 6-phase VRM that kicks in beyond a certain point (possibly what I'm seeing at 991+ MHz GPU clock).
I've tried tweaking the hell out of the non-UEFI BIOS to get power consumption down. That's how I got my cards to 990 MHz (you can't downclock them with software controls, and base clockspeed is 1040 MHz). ASIC quality on both my Vapor-X cards is in the 68% range. Fairly low.
I have tried all manner of chicanery to get power consumption down, including limiting TDP/max power draw and current draw. I haven't messed with the UEFI, and maybe I should at some point.
Here are the mining ROMs I generated with HawaiiBIOSReader:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/znj0pmjzu81doke/sapphire-290-vapor-x-mining.rom?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rknm5v4gau278qt/sapphire2-290-vapor-x-mining.rom?dl=0
btw when dealing with 8-pin connectors, I have just stuck 6-pin connectors into the leftmost 6 pins (the ones physically matched by the 6-pin connector). All my 8-pin plugs from the PSU come in 6+2 configuration so it isn't hard to figure out where the 6-pin plugs go into the 8-pin connectors. Anyway it seems to work without complication if I only do it on the second 8-pin, no extra ground wires needed (I don't think?).
Now that I have tested for a while I can confirm the Claymore miner makes a 5% difference on my 280x, and an 8% difference on my 390x.
I have to admit, after looking at the leaked Polaris benchmarks I might not send back the reference 290s. Seems like Polaris might not be a huge compute boost over Hawaii, and that AMD isn't giving me a real upgrade over the 390X until Volta. I might put the 290s in a pure mining rig and hold off buying the first Polaris 10 card I see. When pricing 390s the best I can do is $250-ish after selling the game and getting the rebate, while the 290 on my desk was a straight $200 no rebate or ebay. Is the 390 worth 25% more plus the hassle? Not for the hash rate, so it comes down to if I can make back that $50 on the resale value. Decisions decisions.
Sigh, this whole GPU generation shift is kinda nerve wracking.
Good question!!
NONE reason to have so match value atm!!!
Bitcoin is USED for money transfer, also its mined and fairly decentralized
Ethereum is NONE of that, and on top of it its PRIMINED bu 90+ % which in crypto world is PURE SCAM!!!!!
Sure I mine it from the start, I love it!!!!!! I dump all and make profit from ethereum, and that IT IS!
I am not saying ethereum in future will not have some real usable usage, but with atm value NEVER. who is insane to pay insane $$ for GAS or Ethereum to use it for some lame project?????
You read TONS of projects on ethereum but IS THERE ONE USABE in which ppl will put lots of money???
No there is none, you read tons of papers of possibilities and project and at the end you don`t understand it at all, its the way ethereum group operates! for that thay had success to sell something ppl don not even understand!