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Madpacket

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Not a solid one. I don't know if AMD improved the blockchain driver in Adrenalin. I seem to remember them saying not to expect regular gains for the compute path. If they did add the toggle for Vega then it's a lot nicer to have the option to easily flip back to gaming. Assuming you game. I do know that the compute path for Fury is impossible to game on. Stalls all over the place. Lower fps.

Thanks. I'm almost done building my new multipurpose PC which will house dual WC VEGA 64's. The second card won't arrive until next week but I'll give these drivers a shot as I plan on gaming over the holidays. The convenience of flipping between drivers is really nice.
 

Batmeat

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Can anyone explain how you get paid through a paper wallet? I'm setup and running mining electroneum, but I don't understand how you receive funds if you wallet isn't connected.
 

DrMrLordX

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Can't you mine other Ethash coins, say Ethereum Classic? Is that also going to be consolidated into the main Ethereum chain?

You can always mine Cryptonight or Equihash based coins as well. I think unless it releases in about 2-3 months from now you should get most of the money back, and get the profit from doing the post-PoS fork coins. Of course, there's still a risk doing it now. I suggest if you have the system ready, then buying the video cards are fine as opposed to buying everything from scratch.

According to my estimates, I could make a Vega pay for itself in maybe 10 months not counting the infrastructure to run it. Granted that was mining XMR a few months ago. It's hard to predict what returns will be on ETH, but don't expect returns to stay what they are now for very long. Difficulty will rise to compensate.
 

ozzy702

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Out of curiosity, which miner did you go with? I've been trying to run some, but they just won't work. The tsiv CCMiner gives me "GPU #1: FATAL: failed to allocate device memory for long state". If I remove GPU 1 (1060 6GB), it gives me the same error for GPU 0 (1080 Ti). The block amounts are more than small enough to fit in VRAM, and I installed CUDA 9.... yet it still doesn't work. I also tried XMR Stak (set to Monero), and it crashed.

XMR Stak
 

Charlie22911

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I keep saying I’m going to get out of the mining game but I never do.
Got the power supply replaced with another I had laying around and now I’m back up.

Also checked my Ethereum account for the first time in a few months to see that I have like 5 different tokens sitting around, neat.
 

IntelUser2000

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Can anyone explain how you get paid through a paper wallet? I'm setup and running mining electroneum, but I don't understand how you receive funds if you wallet isn't connected.

It's possible because cryptowallets are like bank accounts that have both a public account number that allows for only viewing of balances and money can be sent to them, and another private number that only the person with passwords have full access to.

When you first create a wallet you are sending it to that public address. Hence, once you create it the private number can be stashed in a safe location.
 

Aikouka

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Can anyone explain how you get paid through a paper wallet? I'm setup and running mining electroneum, but I don't understand how you receive funds if you wallet isn't connected.

The transactions are all stored in the block chain. You have nothing that is actively keeping track of your money; however, your wallet address will be on the block chain whenever you receive money. So, your funds can be "easily" validated through perusing the chain.

Although, Electroneum doesn't exactly work that way. Like Monero and the other CryptoNight currencies, it also has a private view key, which I believe is required as part of viewing funds. Essentially, if I have your public Electroneum key, I can only send you money, and that's it. Other coins such as Ethereum or Bitcoin make it easy to see how much someone has by simply knowing their public code. That's really one of the main selling points of coins like Monero... it's meant to be a bit more private.
 

IntelUser2000

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Solid Gold Ledger, beautiful irony:


Can't see these staying in stock very long at these coin prices!

It's funny. In terms of how people view things, they are both in the same boat. If the cost of the device is comparable to buying gold per ounce, you are investing into two commodities in one.
 

wege12

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I have been having extreme issues syncing my Mist wallet for the longest time so somebody on this Reddit suggested deleting the chaindata. I did that and it still won't sync the last 500 blocks or so. But the most cocnerning part is that if I launch Mist without fully syncing, my wallets say they have zero eth in them which should not be the case. Before I deleted the chaindata and forced it to lauch it showed part of my eth balance.

I have my json files and keystore folder backed up. Can somebody please help me? I'm freaking out. I'm more than willing to buy someone a beer or two through PayPal to whoever helps me.

Thank you
 

DrMrLordX

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With the old chaindata, it'll show the wallet value based on the old blockchain data. Any deposits/withdrawals made while adding more data to the blockchain since that previous sync wouldn't show up. Deleting all the chaindata just eliminates everything, so your client has no idea what is in your wallets until it does another full sync.

I have had problems with Mist/Ethereum Wallet syncing, especially during periods of heavy activity. If you really must know what's in your wallet right now and/or send something, I would recommend myetherwallet.com (just click on Send Ether & Tokens or View Wallet Info) since they basically sync the blockchain for you. Or you can try running geth in "light" mode but I have never figured out how to do that with Ethereum Wallet. There's a beta mode that allegedly does this, but it does not work for me.

Anyway if you only have 500 blocks to go to sync, I would recommend just letting it run overnight, eventually you will get the blocks you need.
 

wege12

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With the old chaindata, it'll show the wallet value based on the old blockchain data. Any deposits/withdrawals made while adding more data to the blockchain since that previous sync wouldn't show up. Deleting all the chaindata just eliminates everything, so your client has no idea what is in your wallets until it does another full sync.

I have had problems with Mist/Ethereum Wallet syncing, especially during periods of heavy activity. If you really must know what's in your wallet right now and/or send something, I would recommend myetherwallet.com (just click on Send Ether & Tokens or View Wallet Info) since they basically sync the blockchain for you. Or you can try running geth in "light" mode but I have never figured out how to do that with Ethereum Wallet. There's a beta mode that allegedly does this, but it does not work for me.

Anyway if you only have 500 blocks to go to sync, I would recommend just letting it run overnight, eventually you will get the blocks you need.

Okay so I might've prematurely freaked out because in the time it took you to respond, mist synced and all my ethereum is there. I was worried I had lost over 400 ethereum though. Anyways, I promised I'd buy you a beer or two, so let me know your PayPal.

Thanks!
 

IntelUser2000

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I’ve been having a heck of time trying to sync, it’s driving me insane

Me too. I have a spare old computer. I plan to use a downloaded version of MyEtherWallet and install it there so I have an offline wallet.

I tried syncing and it took forever, but it would just not complete the last few hundred blocks. It was endlessly fetching some additional data. The computer I was using is on an Ultrabook with 128GB SSD. It was taking 40GB at that point. Light sync didn't work either. I said forget it.

I read about the problems and it seems lots of people are having problems syncing with Mist. Too bad, because for connected storage I'd trust the official Mist wallet over anything else.
 

DrMrLordX

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Okay so I might've prematurely freaked out because in the time it took you to respond, mist synced and all my ethereum is there. I was worried I had lost over 400 ethereum though. Anyways, I promised I'd buy you a beer or two, so let me know your PayPal.

Thanks!

Not a problem. I'll consider the offer but for now, ETH has been good enough to me that I don't know that I need any beer money. Plus I'm a teatotaller. Zombies don't drink beer, who knew?

I tried syncing and it took forever, but it would just not complete the last few hundred blocks. It was endlessly fetching some additional data. The computer I was using is on an Ultrabook with 128GB SSD. It was taking 40GB at that point. Light sync didn't work either. I said forget it.

I've considered setting up a dedicated node machine, but I wouldn't trust anything less than a 2TB HDD for chaindata at this point. Too bad those old HGST drives are getting old and hard to find.
 
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Madpacket

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Unless you're trying to run a full node there's really no good reason to download the entire Blockchain.

Mist uses Geth by default to sync to the mainnet Blockchain, this is a slow process as the last time I did a full sync it was around 300GB. I believe there are few command line switches to speed up the syncing a lot with the trade-off of higher memory and I/O requirements.

If you're wanting to interact with the mainnet blockchain for reasons other than sending around crypto, just use something like the MetaMask plugin.

Parity is also an option (another Ethereum Browser) that syncs only portions of the Blockchain, and as a client/browser I think it's better than Mist/Geth but I believe you can also force Mist to use Parity's Blockchain sync engine. The Parity devs don't have the best track record for security issues, something to keep in mind.

For a mobile Ethereum browser there's Toshi which is pretty cool, however it's still in the early stages feature wise but there's some clever people working on it.
 

DrMrLordX

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After all the crap with Parity, I do not recommend that browser. At least not until they have some serious auditing done and go through a dozen stable builds without crushing bugs.
 

IntelUser2000

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Mist uses Geth by default to sync to the mainnet Blockchain, this is a slow process as the last time I did a full sync it was around 300GB. I believe there are few command line switches to speed up the syncing a lot with the trade-off of higher memory and I/O requirements.

I've considered setting up a dedicated node machine, but I wouldn't trust anything less than a 2TB HDD for chaindata at this point. Too bad those old HGST drives are getting old and hard to find.

I was using --fast switch.

But seriously. That is insane. That would take days to complete.

After all the crap with Parity, I do not recommend that browser.

I agree. I am paranoid enough though for long term storage I wouldn't even trust a hardware wallet like Ledger. Even they have been hacked. Offline all the way.
 

thilanliyan

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I agree. I am paranoid enough though for long term storage I wouldn't even trust a hardware wallet like Ledger. Even they have been hacked. Offline all the way.
Really? What was the hack and when did this happen?

EDIT: Are you talking about the Trezor hack?
Sorry, the way you wrote it made it sound like you were talking about the Ledger, which as far as I gather hasn't been.
 
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IntelUser2000

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Really? What was the hack and when did this happen?

EDIT: Are you talking about the Trezor hack?
Sorry, the way you wrote it made it sound like you were talking about the Ledger, which as far as I gather hasn't been.

You are right. I searched it again and it was the Trezor hack. I was reading about wallets few weeks ago because I want a secure storage when I read about the Trezor hack.

I've been around computers long enough to know there's no truly secure computer algorithm. Its not if, but when. In Ledger's defense, some posts say its more secure, but Trezor hack is a confidence loss for all of them.
 
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