Ethernet Switch Problem

[btadler]

Hello All. First, let me start out by saying that everything works fine as is now but when I try to do what I would like to with my setup it stops working. My house is brand new and I had Cat5e run through the walls to every room. Currently, my cable comes into the basement, runs to my modem, then i run from my modem to a router, router to an 8 port Netgear switch and the rest of my house is plugged into the switch. I ran it this way because it was the fastest at time of setup but ideally want my router on the main floor so that signal on my second floor is stronger. This is where I run into problems.

I disconnected my router and moved it to my main floor and plugged it into a wall jack then plugged my modem directly into the switch and hard reset everything (modem, router, switch). I now have no signal showing on my router and obviously no internet via wifi. what is also strange is that my previously hardwired devices like my PC no longer receives signal. So I took my router back downstairs and plugged the modem into the router and the router into the switch and presto everything works again. Any idea why this is?

Let me also say the wall jack I plugged into works fine with my original setup as I have my PS4 hardwired into it currently.

Thank you for your assistance.

 

[Genx87]

It is possible you have one device that did receive an IP and works. You need the router in front of the switch and behind your modem. Modem-->Router-->Switch

Why did you bring your router to your main floor?

 

[btadler]

It is possible you have one device that did receive an IP and works. You need the router in front of the switch and behind your modem. Modem-->Router-->Switch

Why did you bring your router to your main floor?

I am getting a crappy wireless signal on my second floor with the router being in the basement so I wanted to move it to the main floor to assist with this. Are you telling me that it is not possible to go directly to a switch from the modem? that doesn't seem to make sense at all.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Modem to router directly is required. It needs to associated with a single device that can perform a routing function.

You have two choices, IMO.

1. Move the modem and the router, obviously a coax drop will be needed at the other spot.

2. If you have two ethernet runs to where you want to move the router. Leave modem, move router. Use one ethernet run for WAN, other run back to switch.

 

[Genx87]

I am getting a crappy wireless signal on my second floor with the router being in the basement so I wanted to move it to the main floor to assist with this. Are you telling me that it is not possible to go directly to a switch from the modem? that doesn't seem to make sense at all.

Yes I am telling you cant go directly from the modem to the switch and have it work. You need a layer 3 device(router) to route your traffic to your ISP..

 

[mv2devnull]

A router routes and you have to route between ISP network and your home network.

What you have an issue with is wireless access point (AP).
Your AP happens to be integrated into your router, but you cannot have AP and router in same location.

It is thus a separate AP that you need. Buy a decent AP, put it where it is heard, and disable the AP feature from the router.


(A managed switch with VLAN-support would allow splitting the switch into ISP-net and home-net parts. Coupled with a VLAN-able router one needs only one VLAN-trunk cable between switch and router. You don't want to go there.)

 

[btadler]

Just for clarification. I currently have a wireless router https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122818

But need something like https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704130 to connect to my whole house wired network?

and then I need to turn off the AP feature on my wireless router once the wired router is installed.

Thanks for your help, I have never needed more than a wireless router before.

 

[ch33zw1z]

A standard "wireless" router is really three devices in one. A router, switch (4 LAN ports), and a WAP.

You can use the current router, disable wireless, buy a wireless access point (WAP), and put that anywhere in the house where there's a network drop.

effectively giving you a more flexible wireless setup, as you have more choice where the wireless is broadcasting from, without impacting the modem and router.

I basically do that with a Ubiquiti ER-X router, and a Ubiquiti UAP-AC-LR access point.

 

[mxnerd]

You don't need VPN if you don't know what it is.

If you have ethernet wall jacks all wired to the basement, then like others have said, you just need WAP/AP (Wireless Access Point) plug into the ethernet wall jack in the main floor, keep your router in the basement.