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This is the South African President singing Kill the Boer Kill the Farmer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHLTKZ05zM4&feature=youtu.be
The Boer is the White Afrikaner who are from dutch decent. The ANC which is the ruling party use a strategy of using vigilante groups to murder opposition party supporters and are on a campaign to kill every white person.
The proportional murder rates per 100,000 of the different SA population groups are broken down as follows
200 murders for every 100,000 white farmers; 100 murders out of every 100,000 whites;
40 murders out of every 100,000 coloured and Asian people; and
30 murders out of every 100,000 black people:
What the international community do not or do not know
http://afrikaner-genocide-achives.blogspot.de/search?updated-min=2012-01-01T00:00:00%2B01:00&updated-max=2013-01-01T00:00:00%2B01:00&max-results=50
Most murders are racially motivated as they are tortured to death without taking anything or small items. The plan of the ANC was during negations which started in the 80's not to give the whites of South Africans anything and to drive them out of SA. Nelson Mandela who told no one went against their plans and strived for a SA where all can live together. Unfortunately he served only a short period. Policies like Black Economic Empowerment was implemented and the bill adjusted which strikes the fatal blow against the emergence of black entrepreneurship by creating a small class of unproductive but wealthy black crony capitalists made up of ANC politicians, some retired and others not, who have become strong allies of the economic oligarchy. More and more poor black people became poorer and the ANC government and their families friends and others on the gravy train became richer and richer. It is basically take or taking half the shares from of a white owned company and give it to someone else of their choosing. The took 40 percent of De Beers and gave it to people affiliated with them.
There are more strikes and voilence ion township areas than there were in the apartheid years. This is the SOuth Africa at the moment
This was Apartheid South Africa
Apartheid era
Apartheid era
Current South Africa
Apartheid South Africa
Under Apartheid, 73 people died in police detention from 1963 to 1990, which equates to 2.6 people per year during the Apartheid period. In comparison, 912 people died in police custody in just ONE year (2008 to 2009) under the ANC. Yes, you can clearly see just how inhumane Apartheid was - 2.6 people vs 912 a year.
Look at the backgrounds of the pictures of the Townships back then to current. You will note tar roads, vehicles and brick houses. There was not a thing like squatter camps as the government build houses and did not allow informal settlements. They builded houses with electricity and running water as well as the Worlds biggest hospital in Soweto. The ANC leaders got law degrees and other degrees in a apartheid South Africa as well then started up voilence in the townships with the campaign Liberation before education.
At the hight of Apartheid in 1978 Soweto had 115 Football fields, 3 Rugby fields, 4 athletic tracks, 11 Cricket fields, 2 Golf courses, 47 Tennis courts, 7 swimming pools built to Olympic standards, 5 Bowling alleys, 81 Netball fields, 39 children play parks, and countless civic halls, movie houses and clubhouses. In addition to this, Soweto had 300 churches, 365 schools, 2 Technical Colleges, 8 clinics, 63 child day care centres, 11 Post Offices, and its own fruit and vegetable market. There were 2300 registered companies that belonged to black businessmen, about 1000 private taxi companies. 3% of the 50,000 vehicle owners in 1978 were Mercedes Benz owners. Soweto alone had more cars, taxis, schools, churches and sport facilities than most independent countries in Africa. The Blacks of South Africa had more private vehicles than the entire white population of the USSR at the time.
The Canadian Medical Doctor, Dr Kenneth Walker wrote about Soweto, (I freely translate from “Verrat an Südafrika”, Klaus Vaque, 1987,pg 41)
Because the Liberation before education stance black people refuse to go to school those who wanted to go threathen with violence. In the end not many received a education. They could only get jobs as cheap laborers.
Since 1970 the budget for black education was raised by about 30% per year every year. More than any other government department. In the period 1955 -1984 the amount of black school students increased 31 times from 35,000 to 1,096 000. 65% of black South African children were at school compared to Egypt 64%, Nigeria 57%, Ghana52%, Tanzania50% and Ethiopia 29%. Amongst the adults of South Africa, 71% could read and write (80% between the ages 12 and 22). Compare this to Kenya 47%, Egypt 38%, Nigeria 34% and Mozambique at 26%.
In 1994 they closed down alot of schools, government did not pay for education or maintained the schools and told the schools to maintain themselves by charging the schools school fees which most of the black population can not afford. Now only the fortunates get educated and more and more black people go inot poverty. They have no intention in protecting their citizens and only enrich themselves.
The international community was seriously dooped into isolating South Africa. The Truth and Reconciliaton commision paid the people R30 000 (roughly $5000) to tell a story of crimes committed in the past. Thart amount is a lot for many poor people and you could make up anything. It wasn't seriously investigated.
This was in the apartheid years with the voilence in the townships
Ambulance and black and white ambulance perwsonal putting a protester in a ambulance.
People can just ask themselves the following?
Where did Mandela's and Buthelezi's degrees came from if the Apartheid government education was inferior
Why did the police and army patrolled in the townships rather than just blocking it off from the outskirts of it and let the black people kill each other?
When the Cold War started and Australia and the USA banned any parties with coommunist affiliation and enacted a law by it. Why when the South Africa banned the ANC for its affiliation with Cuba, Russia and the SA Communist party was it seen as oppression?
Why did the ANC refused to disband their military wing after 1994?
Why is banning inter racial marriages seem as only a racist act against black people if white people/colored people and Indians were not allowed to marry black people and other racial groups? That would be calling themselves inferior which is not true.
In 1974 came the call to have SA expelled from the UN. First up demanding that South Africa gets expelled was the Ugandan Foreign minister Elizabeth Bagaya, representing a country run by a cannibalistic dictator Idi Amin who became synonomous with oppression of blacks (the Lango and Acholi people) and the indiscriminate execution of dissidents. Between 100,000 and 500,000 people were brutally murdered in Uganda at the time. She hardly batted an eyelid in listing the alleged “Crimes” of South Africa.
In that very same assembly, sat the Indians seemingly unaware that Amin expelled all the Indians from Uganda complaining about Indians living in South Africa under oppression.
India, Pakistan and Ceylon(Sri Lanka) were taking on Jan Smuts over their brethren in SA, he offered to pay for their repatriation to their home countries. A small group from SA took him on on his offer as an advance party, but soon returned telling their fellow Indians in SA to stay where they were, because conditions in their motherland were unbearable. Indians in South Africa at the time enjoyed a per capita income six times higher than that in India.
The rest of the world who were slagging South Africa off about Apartheid at the UN seemed to be unconcerned about the 900,000 refugees who were fleeing religious persecution in India and Pakistan during the 1960‟s. They cared little for the 500,000 Indians thrown out of Burma, tens of thousands expelled from Uganda, or the thousands victimized in Kenya and Tanzania. Ten years before that Indonesia slaughtered tens of thousand of women, men and children of Chinese background, Many African countries have done worse, yet China and Russia, operators of their own Gulag Archipelagos voted to expel South Africa. Only the United States, Britain and France prevented the expulsion of South Africa in 1974, mainly because they realized that similarly Arab countries could gang up against Israel and expel the Jewish state.
Not one cared to look at how diverse South Africa really is. Most people think that all black people speak the same language have the same culture. Unfortunately South Africa‟s Black population is not homogenous. There are several different tribes who all speak different languages and who have distinct and hugely different cultures. There are main tribes such as the Zulu, Xhosa, Tswana, Venda, Ndebele, Sotho, Swazi and the Shangaan/Tsonga people. But it does not stop there, because these main tribes consist of smaller tribes. For instance the Xhosas are made up of Mpondo, Fingo, Thembu, Bhaca, Nhlangwini and Xesibe tribes. The Sothos are made up of North Sotho (Bapedi) and South Sotho (Basotho) tribes. The Tswanas are only a part of the main tribe known as the West Sotho. Other tribes that make up the West Sotho are the Kwena, Kgatla, Tlhaping, Tlharo, Rolong and Ngwato. The Venda tribe is made up of mainly the Mphephu and the Lemba, but in total the Vavenda can be bordered off into 27 clearly distinguishable tribes. The Zulus are made up of about 200 smaller tribes The Swazis are made up from the Nkosi, Shongwe, Khumalo and Hhlatyawako tribes. The Northern Sothos are made up from the Pedi, Koni, Phalaborwa, Lobedu and Kutswe tribes.... I can go on and on and on naming them. the Xhosa's and Zulu's do not want to accept each others culture and they were fighting as the Zulu's chased them all over South Africa. Rwanda two African tribes were thrown into one country in close proximity 4 million died. India and Pakistan were created because of the cultures not seeing eye to eye. A person from Pakistan cannot vote in India nor is a citizen and vice versia.
South Africa took all those different tribes and ave them a homeland
Investors was invited to start businesses there to provide work. It was given independance. Botswana was part of South Africa given to the Tswana tribe. Botswana have huge diamond deposits so they were not given the poorest parts. The Zulus in KwaZulu had the area with one of the best rain fall in the country.
Read this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necklacing
That is what is happened to anyone who did not support or riot with the ANC
Here the ANC prison camps AN AUDIT OF THREE YEARS, 1990-1993.
http://www.disa.ukzn.ac.za/webpages/DC/slapr93.3/slapr93.3.pdf
http://stmarys.ca/~wmills/course322/Missionaries_XhosaClergy.pdf
converting them and fail miserably or give them their own homeland like India and Pakistan did?
South Africa did the latter and it was branded racist for classing people according to cultures. I would rather take a couple of hindred of people dead at a riot than 4 million in genocide. Look all over Africa the tribes fighting and murdering each other today. Look at South Africa's stats now. It fits in nicely with the rest of Africa's stats and does not stand out being much higher than the rest of Africa.
We took a bowl of dust and in 80 years build a country who have nuclear power, a space program, build a nuclear bomb and is the only one to dismantle it voluntarily. They sanctioned us with fuel imports we turned coal into fuel by building SASOL. They placed Sanctions on arms while Cuba and SWAPO was getting ready to invade and put a dictatorship up in Namibia. We build Denel and made some of the best weapons. We had of the best surgeons with Barnard doing the worlds first heart transplant. We sent South Africans to protect Namibia helping black people not being ruled by a dictator. We did not impose them were fighting against guerrilla fighters trained with the same tactics that the Vietnamese used in Vietnam.
We did not oppress or go around and plunder Namibia or Angola. The soldiers were trained and educated in customs as well of how to communicate with locals. The rebel bases and rebels were given up by civilians and the informant rate went up from 10 percent to 600 percent in a couple of years. We were so successful that not only did we stop Swapo from mass murdering people in Namibia we won the community over who stopped supporting them. That was enough to stop Swapo getting majority power and it could not control Namibia with full power. So we did not go murder Swapo leaders we gave tem their country to have their democratic elections.
In 67 the British left Botswana with 12km of tar road. South Africa assisted a black ruled Botswana in what they are today. The country with best growing economy in the last 30 years in the world. In 67 they had 12 people who had a education.
So were the government really racist oppressors?
My first instinct is to make you perma-gone, and it appears at this point that I'm not alone among the admins with that sentiment. But, I've settled on one month for now. This forum is for politics and news discussion - not your personal platform for spreading your racist agenda. -Admin DrPizza
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHLTKZ05zM4&feature=youtu.be
The Boer is the White Afrikaner who are from dutch decent. The ANC which is the ruling party use a strategy of using vigilante groups to murder opposition party supporters and are on a campaign to kill every white person.
The proportional murder rates per 100,000 of the different SA population groups are broken down as follows
200 murders for every 100,000 white farmers; 100 murders out of every 100,000 whites;
40 murders out of every 100,000 coloured and Asian people; and
30 murders out of every 100,000 black people:
What the international community do not or do not know
http://afrikaner-genocide-achives.blogspot.de/search?updated-min=2012-01-01T00:00:00%2B01:00&updated-max=2013-01-01T00:00:00%2B01:00&max-results=50
Most murders are racially motivated as they are tortured to death without taking anything or small items. The plan of the ANC was during negations which started in the 80's not to give the whites of South Africans anything and to drive them out of SA. Nelson Mandela who told no one went against their plans and strived for a SA where all can live together. Unfortunately he served only a short period. Policies like Black Economic Empowerment was implemented and the bill adjusted which strikes the fatal blow against the emergence of black entrepreneurship by creating a small class of unproductive but wealthy black crony capitalists made up of ANC politicians, some retired and others not, who have become strong allies of the economic oligarchy. More and more poor black people became poorer and the ANC government and their families friends and others on the gravy train became richer and richer. It is basically take or taking half the shares from of a white owned company and give it to someone else of their choosing. The took 40 percent of De Beers and gave it to people affiliated with them.
There are more strikes and voilence ion township areas than there were in the apartheid years. This is the SOuth Africa at the moment
This was Apartheid South Africa
Apartheid era
Apartheid era
Current South Africa
Apartheid South Africa
Under Apartheid, 73 people died in police detention from 1963 to 1990, which equates to 2.6 people per year during the Apartheid period. In comparison, 912 people died in police custody in just ONE year (2008 to 2009) under the ANC. Yes, you can clearly see just how inhumane Apartheid was - 2.6 people vs 912 a year.
Look at the backgrounds of the pictures of the Townships back then to current. You will note tar roads, vehicles and brick houses. There was not a thing like squatter camps as the government build houses and did not allow informal settlements. They builded houses with electricity and running water as well as the Worlds biggest hospital in Soweto. The ANC leaders got law degrees and other degrees in a apartheid South Africa as well then started up voilence in the townships with the campaign Liberation before education.
At the hight of Apartheid in 1978 Soweto had 115 Football fields, 3 Rugby fields, 4 athletic tracks, 11 Cricket fields, 2 Golf courses, 47 Tennis courts, 7 swimming pools built to Olympic standards, 5 Bowling alleys, 81 Netball fields, 39 children play parks, and countless civic halls, movie houses and clubhouses. In addition to this, Soweto had 300 churches, 365 schools, 2 Technical Colleges, 8 clinics, 63 child day care centres, 11 Post Offices, and its own fruit and vegetable market. There were 2300 registered companies that belonged to black businessmen, about 1000 private taxi companies. 3% of the 50,000 vehicle owners in 1978 were Mercedes Benz owners. Soweto alone had more cars, taxis, schools, churches and sport facilities than most independent countries in Africa. The Blacks of South Africa had more private vehicles than the entire white population of the USSR at the time.
The Canadian Medical Doctor, Dr Kenneth Walker wrote about Soweto, (I freely translate from “Verrat an Südafrika”, Klaus Vaque, 1987,pg 41)
The biggest hospital in the world, Baragwanath with 3200 beds and at its peak almost 8000 staff had 23 operation theatres fitted out with the most modern medical equipment that existed in the world. Blacks were treated here, operated on...at full state costs to the white-taxpayers for unlimited periods. The budget of this hospital was and is higher than the yearly budget of most small member states of the United Nations. Next door to Baragwanath is the St. John‟s Eye Clinic. The clinic is world famous for the treatment of Glaucoma, Cataracts, traumatic eye injuries and rare tropical diseases. All built and maintained by taxpayer‟s money.“In Soweto I saw many homes that costs about $100,000 (1978) and that had a BMW in the driveway. All houses are single storey. Many are recently painted. Many had flowerpots in the windows and lawn in the front. Only 2% were shacks. If I had the choice to live in Soweto or in the apartment dwellings or “Projects” of New York, Chicago, or Detroit where there is so much crime, then I would not hesitate for one moment and choose Soweto.”
Because the Liberation before education stance black people refuse to go to school those who wanted to go threathen with violence. In the end not many received a education. They could only get jobs as cheap laborers.
Since 1970 the budget for black education was raised by about 30% per year every year. More than any other government department. In the period 1955 -1984 the amount of black school students increased 31 times from 35,000 to 1,096 000. 65% of black South African children were at school compared to Egypt 64%, Nigeria 57%, Ghana52%, Tanzania50% and Ethiopia 29%. Amongst the adults of South Africa, 71% could read and write (80% between the ages 12 and 22). Compare this to Kenya 47%, Egypt 38%, Nigeria 34% and Mozambique at 26%.
In 1994 they closed down alot of schools, government did not pay for education or maintained the schools and told the schools to maintain themselves by charging the schools school fees which most of the black population can not afford. Now only the fortunates get educated and more and more black people go inot poverty. They have no intention in protecting their citizens and only enrich themselves.
The international community was seriously dooped into isolating South Africa. The Truth and Reconciliaton commision paid the people R30 000 (roughly $5000) to tell a story of crimes committed in the past. Thart amount is a lot for many poor people and you could make up anything. It wasn't seriously investigated.
This was in the apartheid years with the voilence in the townships
Ambulance and black and white ambulance perwsonal putting a protester in a ambulance.
People can just ask themselves the following?
Where did Mandela's and Buthelezi's degrees came from if the Apartheid government education was inferior
Why did the police and army patrolled in the townships rather than just blocking it off from the outskirts of it and let the black people kill each other?
When the Cold War started and Australia and the USA banned any parties with coommunist affiliation and enacted a law by it. Why when the South Africa banned the ANC for its affiliation with Cuba, Russia and the SA Communist party was it seen as oppression?
Why did the ANC refused to disband their military wing after 1994?
Why is banning inter racial marriages seem as only a racist act against black people if white people/colored people and Indians were not allowed to marry black people and other racial groups? That would be calling themselves inferior which is not true.
In 1974 came the call to have SA expelled from the UN. First up demanding that South Africa gets expelled was the Ugandan Foreign minister Elizabeth Bagaya, representing a country run by a cannibalistic dictator Idi Amin who became synonomous with oppression of blacks (the Lango and Acholi people) and the indiscriminate execution of dissidents. Between 100,000 and 500,000 people were brutally murdered in Uganda at the time. She hardly batted an eyelid in listing the alleged “Crimes” of South Africa.
In that very same assembly, sat the Indians seemingly unaware that Amin expelled all the Indians from Uganda complaining about Indians living in South Africa under oppression.
India, Pakistan and Ceylon(Sri Lanka) were taking on Jan Smuts over their brethren in SA, he offered to pay for their repatriation to their home countries. A small group from SA took him on on his offer as an advance party, but soon returned telling their fellow Indians in SA to stay where they were, because conditions in their motherland were unbearable. Indians in South Africa at the time enjoyed a per capita income six times higher than that in India.
The rest of the world who were slagging South Africa off about Apartheid at the UN seemed to be unconcerned about the 900,000 refugees who were fleeing religious persecution in India and Pakistan during the 1960‟s. They cared little for the 500,000 Indians thrown out of Burma, tens of thousands expelled from Uganda, or the thousands victimized in Kenya and Tanzania. Ten years before that Indonesia slaughtered tens of thousand of women, men and children of Chinese background, Many African countries have done worse, yet China and Russia, operators of their own Gulag Archipelagos voted to expel South Africa. Only the United States, Britain and France prevented the expulsion of South Africa in 1974, mainly because they realized that similarly Arab countries could gang up against Israel and expel the Jewish state.
Not one cared to look at how diverse South Africa really is. Most people think that all black people speak the same language have the same culture. Unfortunately South Africa‟s Black population is not homogenous. There are several different tribes who all speak different languages and who have distinct and hugely different cultures. There are main tribes such as the Zulu, Xhosa, Tswana, Venda, Ndebele, Sotho, Swazi and the Shangaan/Tsonga people. But it does not stop there, because these main tribes consist of smaller tribes. For instance the Xhosas are made up of Mpondo, Fingo, Thembu, Bhaca, Nhlangwini and Xesibe tribes. The Sothos are made up of North Sotho (Bapedi) and South Sotho (Basotho) tribes. The Tswanas are only a part of the main tribe known as the West Sotho. Other tribes that make up the West Sotho are the Kwena, Kgatla, Tlhaping, Tlharo, Rolong and Ngwato. The Venda tribe is made up of mainly the Mphephu and the Lemba, but in total the Vavenda can be bordered off into 27 clearly distinguishable tribes. The Zulus are made up of about 200 smaller tribes The Swazis are made up from the Nkosi, Shongwe, Khumalo and Hhlatyawako tribes. The Northern Sothos are made up from the Pedi, Koni, Phalaborwa, Lobedu and Kutswe tribes.... I can go on and on and on naming them. the Xhosa's and Zulu's do not want to accept each others culture and they were fighting as the Zulu's chased them all over South Africa. Rwanda two African tribes were thrown into one country in close proximity 4 million died. India and Pakistan were created because of the cultures not seeing eye to eye. A person from Pakistan cannot vote in India nor is a citizen and vice versia.
South Africa took all those different tribes and ave them a homeland
Investors was invited to start businesses there to provide work. It was given independance. Botswana was part of South Africa given to the Tswana tribe. Botswana have huge diamond deposits so they were not given the poorest parts. The Zulus in KwaZulu had the area with one of the best rain fall in the country.
Read this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necklacing
That is what is happened to anyone who did not support or riot with the ANC
Here the ANC prison camps AN AUDIT OF THREE YEARS, 1990-1993.
http://www.disa.ukzn.ac.za/webpages/DC/slapr93.3/slapr93.3.pdf
After the War vs the British. 24000 woman and children died in concentration camps and with the British burning down every farm in South Africa leaving the Boer with nothing. No foreign aid no bail out plan and 22 cultures where some have the believes of abducting a woman and raping her makes her your wife. Others sold their children for cattle. Twins was murdered because its part of their culture. (If you ever come to South Africa look how many twins among the black community you see. Almost none). Thoise traditions will never be accepted in a western culture. So do you try what these people didThe reality of the ANC's system of prison camps and the nature of its
Security Department, Imbokodo ('the boulder that crushes'), has been established without question. The ANC is no longer portrayed almost universally by the left and the liberals as a saindy Robin Hood riding to the rescue humanity on a dashing (Hollywood) charger. Where previously there was silence, or uncritical celebration of the perpetrators of abuses, there now is routine reference in the South African and international press to the issue of 'the camps'. It is a truth that can no longer be suppressed.
This work was carried out in conditions of extreme difficulty. The Amnesty
report was the culmination of two and a half years of exhausting campaigning,
in all but total isolation, mainly by two people. Amnesty had to be
threatened with exposure before it undertook to carry out this investigation.
Even then there was no certainty that its inquiry — which was taken out of the hands its South Africa desk — would result in publication. Whole-hearted, generous and unstinting collaboration was provided to this magazine by a single British colleague, the former Westminster borough councillor, Bill McElroy — an outstanding human being worth an army in any campaign. Southern Africa owes this remarkable man a debt of gratitude. He is known and loved by many former ANC and Swapo detainees.
http://stmarys.ca/~wmills/course322/Missionaries_XhosaClergy.pdf
converting them and fail miserably or give them their own homeland like India and Pakistan did?
South Africa did the latter and it was branded racist for classing people according to cultures. I would rather take a couple of hindred of people dead at a riot than 4 million in genocide. Look all over Africa the tribes fighting and murdering each other today. Look at South Africa's stats now. It fits in nicely with the rest of Africa's stats and does not stand out being much higher than the rest of Africa.
We took a bowl of dust and in 80 years build a country who have nuclear power, a space program, build a nuclear bomb and is the only one to dismantle it voluntarily. They sanctioned us with fuel imports we turned coal into fuel by building SASOL. They placed Sanctions on arms while Cuba and SWAPO was getting ready to invade and put a dictatorship up in Namibia. We build Denel and made some of the best weapons. We had of the best surgeons with Barnard doing the worlds first heart transplant. We sent South Africans to protect Namibia helping black people not being ruled by a dictator. We did not impose them were fighting against guerrilla fighters trained with the same tactics that the Vietnamese used in Vietnam.
We did not oppress or go around and plunder Namibia or Angola. The soldiers were trained and educated in customs as well of how to communicate with locals. The rebel bases and rebels were given up by civilians and the informant rate went up from 10 percent to 600 percent in a couple of years. We were so successful that not only did we stop Swapo from mass murdering people in Namibia we won the community over who stopped supporting them. That was enough to stop Swapo getting majority power and it could not control Namibia with full power. So we did not go murder Swapo leaders we gave tem their country to have their democratic elections.
In 67 the British left Botswana with 12km of tar road. South Africa assisted a black ruled Botswana in what they are today. The country with best growing economy in the last 30 years in the world. In 67 they had 12 people who had a education.
So were the government really racist oppressors?
My first instinct is to make you perma-gone, and it appears at this point that I'm not alone among the admins with that sentiment. But, I've settled on one month for now. This forum is for politics and news discussion - not your personal platform for spreading your racist agenda. -Admin DrPizza
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