[Eurogamer] i3 6100 review

escrow4

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Skylake i3 has balls! :awe:

"And as the benchmarks came in, the results were fascinating - in many CPU-bound scenarios, the i3 6100 is significantly faster with higher-speed RAM."

"The two i3 runs are probably the more fascinating comparison in the table above. Consider the difference that 2666MHz memory makes to performance. That Ryse figure is no error - performance falls through the floor when running with lower levels of bandwidth, while faster RAM offers 11 per cent more performance on GTA 5 and Far Cry 4. And again, those figures are averages spread out across the benchmark run - it's noticeably higher at any given point during 'in the moment' gameplay. "

"It's worth repeating that clock speeds are not like-for-like, but we are seeing improvements north of 20 per cent between Skylake and Haswell here, and it's actually the case that (CryEngine apart) a Core i3 6100 with 2666MHz DDR4 is generally on par or even a little faster than an older Core i5 2500K with 1333MHz DDR3 when both systems are paired with a GTX 970."

"The same set-up also sees Skylake beat the AMD FX-8350 (paired with 1600MHz DDR3) in every game we tested bar Crysis 3 and The Witcher 3. Of course, those chips beg to be overclocked in a way that the i3 never can, but the bottom line is that in many gaming scenarios, the new i3 is capable of performance that belies its dual-core status."

"High-end games are becoming more CPU-intensive, making it much more likely that the processor will be the bottleneck during any given gaming session - especially so at the budget end of the market. Every cycle matters in the more demanding areas of many modern titles, and in our testing, the Core i3 6100 is best in class."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-intel-core-i3-6100-review

TL-DR, an Skylake i3 (so far) will usually do just fine, but an i7 can leave it (and an i5) behind in some titles.
 
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I finally ordered one last week to see what they are all about; I am at once gratified to see that they live up to expectations, and disappointed that I will not be the first to break the news on AT.
 

DrMrLordX

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It makes me sad that i3s are exempt from overclocking yet again. Overclockable Skylake i3 would be a beast.
 

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I'd be interested to see the 6320 - 3.9GHz and an extra 1MB cache vs this one. Of course, being Intel, a 6320 will be stupid hard to obtain depending on country.
 

crashtech

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I'd be interested to see the 6320 - 3.9GHz and an extra 1MB cache vs this one. Of course, being Intel, a 6320 will be stupid hard to obtain depending on country.
And expensive. I considered it, but decided it was to close to i5 territory price-wise to make sense.
 

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A 4 generation old i5 2500 and 4 generations old FX defeated by an i3? Interesting... seems that those users are prepared to OC all the way if they can catch up. So Zen/Canonlake is the true change for everyone

BTW.... they didn't tested on VM, no?
That could change all the scenario....
 

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6100 sounded like a great CPU by the specs/price, and it didn't disappoint, it's a good option for gaming.

but I think this is kind of not so amazing: "Core i3 6100 with 2666MHz DDR4 is generally on par or even a little faster than an older Core i5 2500K with 1333MHz DDR3 when both systems are paired with a GTX 970."

basically the opposite of what's going to happen with real PCs, i3 is going to be used with 2133 and slower ram, 2500K is going to be overclocked most of the time, so.. yes... 2500K is clearly better and over 4 years old and it wasn't really a high end CPU when new (it was $220 I think),

BTW.... they didn't tested on VM, no?
That could change all the scenario....

what is "VM"?

you mean virtual machine? seems irrelevant for a gaming website
 
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6100 sounded like a great CPU by the specs/price, and it didn't disappoint, it's a good option for gaming.

but I think this is kind of not so amazing: "Core i3 6100 with 2666MHz DDR4 is generally on par or even a little faster than an older Core i5 2500K with 1333MHz DDR3 when both systems are paired with a GTX 970."

basically the opposite of what's going to happen with real PCs, i3 is going to be used with 2133 and slower ram, 2500K is going to be overclocked most of the time, so.. yes... 2500K is clearly better and over 4 years old and it wasn't really a high end CPU when new (it was $220 I think),
I was discussing this benchmark with Arachnotronic and ShintaiDK in the Skylake thread.

The Skylake i3 performance is all well and good, but to get that performance, you need faster (overclocked) DDR4 RAM, and in order to use overclocked RAM, you have to pay Intel's "chipset tax" for their most expensive chipset, the Z170. If you were going to go with a semi-budget locked i3, why would you want to pay for a Z170 mobo. And if you were, why not just go whole-hog and get an unlocked Skylake i5 CPU?

Some things that Intel does, don't make that much sense. (Other than they are incredibly greedy, and short-sighted.)

The x86 (desktop/laptop) empire is under assault from ARM like never before. And Intel just continues to spend money on R&D (billions!) to make a faster CPU, then they cripple them when used with non-enthusiast chipsets, resulting in performance that is barely or not even faster than the prior generation of CPUs.
 

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Erenhardt

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Not always faster memory performance:

The i3 may need the RAM speed but an i7 not so much. I stuck a 2133MHz kit with my 5930K partially because the next rung up was $50 or something and there is little difference in most games. Its not like the difference is 60FPS vs 35FPS.

No, but 103,2FPS VS 58,5FPS:

Ryse, High, SMAA 103.2 58.5

their numbers are very strange. Also, 6300 giving the new i3 run for its money. And that is a stock 3,5Ghz fx6300 LOL.
Also, shame they used Crysis 3 scripted cutscene that is not representative of in-game performance, o well...

i5 2500 holding its own against the latest from intel... talk about lackluster release
 
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Are we completely sure they didn't somehow accidentally enable another couple of cores for that Ryse benchmark? Very interested to see whether other sites can repeat this.

Also, 6300 giving the new i3 run for its money. And that is a stock 3,5Ghz fx6300 LOL.

Watch the minimum framerates in the video, especially Crysis 3.
 
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Ryse uses texture streaming very agressively it sets up texture quality depending on how much vram your card has, does't let you change it in the settings and streams textures in all the time,I guess faster mem helps with the buffering there.
 

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Ryse uses texture streaming very agressively it sets up texture quality depending on how much vram your card has, does't let you change it in the settings and streams textures in all the time,I guess faster mem helps with the buffering there.

Interesting to know but 76% performance increase from 25% Ram speed increase?
 

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Already posted here.

Quite a game changer. I was one of FX6300 supporters but this >20% performance bump changes the game for Intel, amazing product.

"The same set-up also sees Skylake beat the AMD FX-8350 (paired with 1600MHz DDR3) in every game we tested bar Crysis 3 and The Witcher 3. Of course, those chips beg to be overclocked in a way that the i3 never can, but the bottom line is that in many gaming scenarios, the new i3 is capable of performance that belies its dual-core status."
 
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NTMBK

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Makes sense that with smaller L3, this chip is more sensitive to RAM speeds.

Looks like a great part for budget gaming PCs.
 

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"The same set-up also sees Skylake beat the AMD FX-8350 (paired with 1600MHz DDR3) in every game we tested bar Crysis 3 and The Witcher 3. Of course, those chips beg to be overclocked in a way that the i3 never can, but the bottom line is that in many gaming scenarios, the new i3 is capable of performance that belies its dual-core status."
.......

The i3 Haswell was already competitive with the FX-8350 back in 2014 according to AT 2014 cpu benchmarks.
 

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I was discussing this benchmark with Arachnotronic and ShintaiDK in the Skylake thread.

The Skylake i3 performance is all well and good, but to get that performance, you need faster (overclocked) DDR4 RAM, and in order to use overclocked RAM, you have to pay Intel's "chipset tax" for their most expensive chipset, the Z170. If you were going to go with a semi-budget locked i3, why would you want to pay for a Z170 mobo. And if you were, why not just go whole-hog and get an unlocked Skylake i5 CPU?

Some things that Intel does, don't make that much sense. (Other than they are incredibly greedy, and short-sighted.)

The x86 (desktop/laptop) empire is under assault from ARM like never before. And Intel just continues to spend money on R&D (billions!) to make a faster CPU, then they cripple them when used with non-enthusiast chipsets, resulting in performance that is barely or not even faster than the prior generation of CPUs.
Do you actually need the faster ram speeds?

Maybe tighter timings will do the same, and that can be done on every chipset. And unless you want the 3000 rated kits you don't have that big of a premium.
 

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Their FX6300 platform seems to have some problems

It is loosing half of the performance in Ryse and Crysis3 compared to 8350.
 
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Well there is already a "discussion" on this in the skylake thread, but I am with Larry on this one. The article should really be titled "Intel neuters its own chips with the need for high speed memory."

The review is at best poorly done, and at worst actually biased to show Skylake in the best light. Just look at the non-gaming benchmarks. Where is the 4790K?

A "budget" chip that requires the highest end motherboard and fast ram to show any improvement over the previous generation? Seriously??? OEMs are certainly not going to equip systems with a Z170 motherboard and fast ram. And an enthusiast building his own system might just as well spend the extra hundred bucks and get an unlocked i5, since you have to buy an overclocking motherboard anyway to be able to use ram that will extract decent performance.
 
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