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foghorn67

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Originally posted by: SLCentral
WTF food are you eating in Europe that would be benefitted with ketchup? Sounds like you went to a McDonalds...:disgust:

any bland british food.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Atheus
America sucks.

1) You pay to _recieve_ phone calls, wtf
2) You can't drink until you're 21 years old? 21? What are you afraid of a 20 year old doing?
3) You get no healthcare if you're poor
I don't pay to receive phone calls.
who the hell told you #3?

I mean you have to pay, and it's expensive, so if you're poor and ill it's a choice between doctor and rent/food. Is this not true?

I don't really think America sucks BTW, especially not LA, but I had to respond.
no, someone gave you the wrong information on that. no one in America goes without healthcare if they seek it. we have plenty of social welfare programs.

 

junkerman123

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Everyone gets equal medical service. You don't get billed until after you recieve treatment. If you get stabbed and go to the emeregency room, they will treat you asap whether you're poor or rich. And if you're poor, and you get stuck with a 1234023140234 dollar medical bill, just declare bankcrupcy and restart. not a big deal. if you're rich you can afford it anyways. yes, there is a small segment of the population that gets the screw job from the US system, but this happens in every healthcare system, socialist, capitalist, whatever.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Atheus
I mean you have to pay, and it's expensive, so if you're poor and ill it's a choice between doctor and rent/food. Is this not true?

for most 'poor' people, it's a choice between a doctor and chrome wheels, seems like. that's if they're paying. there is a very large amount of indigent care, however.
 

zixxer

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Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Atheus
America sucks.

1) You pay to _recieve_ phone calls, wtf
2) You can't drink until you're 21 years old? 21? What are you afraid of a 20 year old doing?
3) You get no healthcare if you're poor
I don't pay to receive phone calls.
who the hell told you #3?

I mean you have to pay, and it's expensive, so if you're poor and ill it's a choice between doctor and rent/food. Is this not true?

I don't really think America sucks BTW, especially not LA, but I had to respond.

No, it really isn't true. Even the poor get healthcare in the US, it's just not as good as "good" healthcare. I.E. the rich can afford better than gov't paid doctors.


On the otherhand, in other countries healthcare is free - and every gets the same treatment - which is often worse than the low income hospitals here.

 

KMFJD

Lifer
Aug 11, 2005
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Originally posted by: tm37
I have to go to europe at least onece a year.

I dread it
The food sucks
And I get to go to DK and Germany so I have to exchange money TWICE
The hotels charge a CC fee
Fish sucks
The only thing I like about berlin is the cholatier shop

That place rocks

The food sucks?
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: Aflac
1) refills shouldn't really be free anyway.
2) do you really need that much ketchup?
3) okay... that sucks
4) hmm.. that sucks
5) ... I guess that sucks too

3/5. But there are many other reasons why Europe wins over the US.

2 - yes. 2 packets isn't really that much
 

junkerman123

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Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
6. Pay toilets....

qft x1000

holy crap those are annoying. they are mostly by tourist spots, but holy crap. then of course there's the dude you have to tip at harrod's, who has the best job ever.

Think about it, the guy just stands in the bathroom all day, almost never does anything, occasionally helps someone figure out how the soap or faucet works and replaces toilet paper/paper towels. EVERYONE in the store uses the bathroom, and most everyone tips him between 50p and 2 pounds. This guy must be making at least 50 pounds an hour, if not more!

Best job ever.
 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
Jul 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: junkerman123
Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
6. Pay toilets....

qft x1000

holy crap those are annoying. they are mostly by tourist spots, but holy crap. then of course there's the dude you have to tip at harrod's, who has the best job ever.

Think about it, the guy just stands in the bathroom all day, almost never does anything, occasionally helps someone figure out how the soap or faucet works and replaces toilet paper/paper towels. EVERYONE


the only toilet i ever paid for was at the train station in munich and it was so clean i could eat of the toilet. best 2 euro i ever spent.
 

K1052

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I was in Greece last year and loved it. Hope to go back in a year or so.
Incredible food, great weather, spectacular scenery, and lots to see and do.

Things are more expensive in Europe (esp with current exchange rates) but that's part of the deal right now.
 

Atheus

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Jun 7, 2005
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Originally posted by: ElFenix
2) drunk teenagers tend to cause a hugely disproportionate share of traffic accidents

Same true here, but younger teenagers case the problem. Drinking a bit earlier means you learn to handle it earlier - if you make people wait until they're 21 they are just gonna binge for months when they're 21 instead of when they're 18.

for most 'poor' people, it's a choice between a doctor and chrome wheels, seems like.

That's just naive, there are plenty of people who cannot afford to eat and properly and pay for housing, let alone own a car.

 

B00ne

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May 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: ElFenix
1) they charge you again for a refill. wtf?
2) they charge you if you want more than two ketchup packets.
3) if you ask for water they charge you $5 for a bottle of evian. are we in the fscking 3rd world where the water will kill you? no.
4) the bars won't keep your credit card open as a tab. everyone on the planet drinks more when they only have to say their name in exchange for a drink. this is a really big problem because of 5, below.
5) credit card minimums. it's the 21st century, and backwards europe still carries cash around? worse yet, the smaller demoninations are all in inconvenient heavy coins that trick you into thinking the 4 pounds 50 p that you just paid for a sandwich in a plastic box at sainsbury's wasn't that much.


WTF are you talking about?
1+2) There are no refills (except KFC) You pay for what it says on the sign (0.33/0.4/0.5..) mind you those fast food places are usually American not European - same with Ketchup go complain to McD
3) If you ask for a bottle of evian and it cost $5 where you are than they charge you $5. I havent seen tap water being served anywhere though
4) What is this credit card thing you talk about? Normally you pay in the end whatever you had - If you had 1 beer you pay one if you had 10 you pay ten. Most pubs prolly wont accept CCs anyway.
5) Yeah, in pub/bar you usually pay cash - blame the CC companies for being to expensive, for most small store/pub whatever owners it is not woth the cost to offer CC - or they would have to raise prices
5) Except for the Euro countries coins are different in all counties - blame the retailers about all those frickn coins it's them who pressured politicians to not get rid of them when the Euro was introduced
 

potato28

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Well heres some reasons why europe is great...
1) Weed is legal in The Netherlands
2) The drinking age is lower
3) Same currency across the mainland of Europe
4) Very few fat chicks
5) Some of the best food and drink are availible only in Europe

I could keep going, but I wanna go get a free refill
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: junkerman123
Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
6. Pay toilets....

qft x1000

holy crap those are annoying. they are mostly by tourist spots, but holy crap. then of course there's the dude you have to tip at harrod's, who has the best job ever.

Think about it, the guy just stands in the bathroom all day, almost never does anything, occasionally helps someone figure out how the soap or faucet works and replaces toilet paper/paper towels. EVERYONE


the only toilet i ever paid for was at the train station in munich and it was so clean i could eat of the toilet. best 2 euro i ever spent.
eat off the toliet? sorry, but bacteria/viruses aren't exactly visible.
 

KMFJD

Lifer
Aug 11, 2005
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Originally posted by: junkerman123
Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
6. Pay toilets....

qft x1000

holy crap those are annoying. they are mostly by tourist spots, but holy crap. then of course there's the dude you have to tip at harrod's, who has the best job ever.

Think about it, the guy just stands in the bathroom all day, almost never does anything, occasionally helps someone figure out how the soap or faucet works and replaces toilet paper/paper towels. EVERYONE in the store uses the bathroom, and most everyone tips him between 50p and 2 pounds. This guy must be making at least 50 pounds an hour, if not more!

Best job ever.

QFT
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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Europe sucks because it wont cater to all your spoiled american habits?

If texas was so great, you wouldnt have left.
And if we're all lucky, you'll never leave again.
 

junkerman123

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: junkerman123
Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
6. Pay toilets....

qft x1000

holy crap those are annoying. they are mostly by tourist spots, but holy crap. then of course there's the dude you have to tip at harrod's, who has the best job ever.

Think about it, the guy just stands in the bathroom all day, almost never does anything, occasionally helps someone figure out how the soap or faucet works and replaces toilet paper/paper towels. EVERYONE


the only toilet i ever paid for was at the train station in munich and it was so clean i could eat of the toilet. best 2 euro i ever spent.

The worst example of this was Italy, where you had to pay something like 3000 lira (1.50) to use what was essentially a row of porta-potties. I believe this was near the forum ruins.
 

iwantanewcomputer

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Apr 4, 2004
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Originally posted by: Atheus
America sucks.

1) You pay to _recieve_ phone calls, wtf
2) You can't drink until you're 21 years old? 21? What are you afraid of a 20 year old doing?
3) You get no healthcare if you're poor

1) you mean on a cell? you are using the company's tower's and bandwidth, i don't see why you shouldn't
2) agreed redicoulous, but it has a purpose. most americans aren't responsible at 21 either. but still drink since they are 14
3) don't be poor. and yes, you get some. like 15% of my paycheck goes to social security, medicare and that's too much for lazy smoking fat people. they should pay their own health care
 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
Jul 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: junkerman123
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: junkerman123
Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
6. Pay toilets....

qft x1000

holy crap those are annoying. they are mostly by tourist spots, but holy crap. then of course there's the dude you have to tip at harrod's, who has the best job ever.

Think about it, the guy just stands in the bathroom all day, almost never does anything, occasionally helps someone figure out how the soap or faucet works and replaces toilet paper/paper towels. EVERYONE


the only toilet i ever paid for was at the train station in munich and it was so clean i could eat of the toilet. best 2 euro i ever spent.

The worst example of this was Italy, where you had to pay something like 3000 lira (1.50) to use what was essentially a row of porta-potties. I believe this was near the forum ruins.

well you should expect such things at tourist traps.....duck into a little cafe and order a coffee so you can enjoy their facilities.
 

Lonyo

Lifer
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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: junkerman123
Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
6. Pay toilets....

qft x1000

holy crap those are annoying. they are mostly by tourist spots, but holy crap. then of course there's the dude you have to tip at harrod's, who has the best job ever.

Think about it, the guy just stands in the bathroom all day, almost never does anything, occasionally helps someone figure out how the soap or faucet works and replaces toilet paper/paper towels. EVERYONE


the only toilet i ever paid for was at the train station in munich and it was so clean i could eat of the toilet. best 2 euro i ever spent.

I went to a train station that charged for the toilet, but I had no money.
So I waited until the train came, and went for free (train had been delayed)
 

loic2003

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America blows because:

1) Your cars are sooo bland and ugly
2) Your cars guzzle fuel and can't go around corners (although I hate to say it but the Z06 looks good despite shite build quality)
3) You slate everyone's food when your national dish is a freaking lardburger. visit europe and check out what real food is like.
4) Your president is a prick, and noone questions him. He just arrives with loads of people waving flags, says some crappy pep talks then swaggers off without justifying his desisions (see prime minister's question time in the UK/breakfast with frost, etc)/
5) You;ve screwed yourselves properly with your gun-loving as now everyone has one and there's no way you could ever control them.
6) You have the US flag in every classroom and all the kids are effectively brainwashed into loving 'the flag' (see N.Korea for another example of this).
7) Way too many god-squads.
8) Your humour and sit-coms are so basic and low-brow. jokes are blatant and contrived.
9) Cheesy, US-Fellating hollywood movies (what? the US saved the world AGAIN?! wow...)
10) People are so cocky and big-headed thinking the US is the best place in the world (see (6)) and go around mouthing off and starting threads in forums essentially stating this.
11) TV is saturated with adverts. I remember watching a movie, and for every 6 minutes of film there was 3 minutes of adverts... WTF?!?!
12) Short attention spans (see 11) means I have to cut this short otherwise I'll be asked for cliffs.
 

moshquerade

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Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: loic2003
America blows because:

1) Your cars are sooo bland and ugly
2) Your cars guzzle fuel and can't go around corners (although I hate to say it but the Z06 looks good despite shite build quality)
3) You slate everyone's food when your national dish is a freaking lardburger. visit europe and check out what real food is like.
4) Your president is a prick, and noone questions him. He just arrives with loads of people waving flags, says some crappy pep talks then swaggers off without justifying his desisions (see prime minister's question time in the UK/breakfast with frost, etc)/
5) You;ve screwed yourselves properly with your gun-loving as now everyone has one and there's no way you could ever control them.
6) You have the US flag in every classroom and all the kids are effectively brainwashed into loving 'the flag' (see N.Korea for another example of this).
7) Way too many god-squads.
8) Your humour and sit-coms are so basic and low-brow. jokes are blatant and contrived.
9) Cheesy, US-Fellating hollywood movies (what? the US saved the world AGAIN?! wow...)
10) People are so cocky and big-headed thinking the US is the best place in the world (see (6)) and go around mouthing off and starting threads in forums essentially stating this.
11) TV is saturated with adverts. I remember watching a movie, and for every 6 minutes of film there was 3 minutes of adverts... WTF?!?!
12) Short attention spans (see 11) means I have to cut this short otherwise I'll be asked for cliffs.
way to make yourself even more of a douche than the thread starter.

i have a couple of friends from the UK. you don't represent them thank God.
 

KeithTalent

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: junkerman123

Actually, in some clubs in Italy, they GIVE you a charge card just for the bar as you come in, and then you pay off all your drinks as you leave. Pretty brilliant. England has those problems you just mentioned though.

EDIT: also there are many less fat WIMMENZ

italy is next on my list of countries in europe to visit.

If you haven't even been to Italy then you have no place to qualify anything about Europe.

Sometimes I wonder why people with such little imagination and interest travel at all. Stay home if you want to eat, see, and do the same things you always do.

I completely agree with this. If you hate things that are not the same as home then do us (and the people in the countries you are visiting) a favour and do not travel.

Btw I do not get the ketchup thing at all
 
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