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You can't wear a hat in a restaurant ?Oh its nowhere like England yet. We can still wear hats in restaurants!
*Ignore all the other shit we do though.
You can't wear a hat in a restaurant ?Oh its nowhere like England yet. We can still wear hats in restaurants!
*Ignore all the other shit we do though.
This thread is overly simplifying a complex issue. What do you mean by left-wing or right wing? Is it social liberalism v conservatism? Economic liberalism v conservatism? Capitalism v socialism v communism? Liberalism v totalitarianism? Democracy v autocracy? Just because the US is dominated by a two party system where it is easy to throw around "left v right", doesn't mean that the rest of the world's parties or parliaments can be explained by that simple dichotomy.
You can't wear a hat in a restaurant ?
I have had many friends asked to take off things on their head that block CCTV cameras and told it was the rule. Im not from there, but I have been told this over and over. The UK is a very different place. I remember coming across this recently.
https://gizmodo.com/creepy-uk-surveillance-law-ruled-illegal-but-privacy-a-1822551542
"The regime granted law enforcement the right to hack into citizens’ devices to obtain information during an investigation. All UK companies faced a legal requirement to aid hacking operations and hand over encryption keys if asked. The law also required ISPs to retain the search and browser history of all UK citizens for at least 12 months. Law enforcement agencies were permitted to freely access the data without warrants. Further, ISPs could be charged with a criminal offense if they reveal to users their data had been requested by the government."
It was overturned by EU judges, but shows how the government has the view that they can and should be able to access your personal details when they want to.
Here is an older article about the hats thing.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2085192/Hats-banned-from-Yorkshire-pubs-over-CCTV-fears.html
"The Park Hotel in Wadsley, Sheffield, is the latest to be asked to impose the rule by senior police officers.
Mark Kelly, the landlord said: "Police asked us to ensure that everyone removes headgear.
"With pensioners, by the time they sit down their hats always come off anyway because they were brought up with manners so usually take their hats off indoors."
The measure, designed to prevent people from obscuring their faces from CCTV cameras, has been questioned by Barnsley's former Test umpire Dickie Bird, 75, well-known for his favoured white flat cap."
Well, that's one reason why I don't agree with the French fixation on banning the veil - the logical end point is making it a legal obligation for everyone to give a full-facial gaze into every CCTV camera. You shouldn't _have_ to show your face in public places. Even though it remains kind of rude not to. I think the cops are only _requesting_ the pubs have such a rule though, they can't legally demand it...but our cops do like to make up laws as they go along, and to ignore other laws they can't be bothered to enforce. In the end it comes down to the property owners making the demand of their customers or not, and I thought you were OK with private property rights?
But the police hacking story is no different from what's been going on everywhere, in the US just as much as elsewhere. We increasingly live in a mass surveillance state that would have had the Stasi green with envy. They had to go through all the tedium of steaming open envelopes.
RIPA and that ISP holding data law are invasive, in my opinion though. Especially given how several of the major ISPs have had repeated embarrassing data leak/hacking incidents (how long before people's browsing histories get leaked?).
And of course it was put through under the 'coalition', i.e. by Tories and the Lib Dems (who always pose as being supporters of civil liberties but didn't actually do anything to protect them when in government). Another nail in the coffin of the idea that Liberals are significantly different from Conservatives, and more evidence that the Lib Dems don't actually have _any_ core values, other than being pro-EU (that, to be fair, seems to be their one consistent trait).
Not that New Labour (also liberals, really) were any better. On that point I think it's true that there's a slight cultural difference with the US.
Free money for everyone. Absolutely everyone. No work required.Cant view youtube at work. Quick summary?
Universal Basic Income.
You mean like minimum wage?
Much worse:
https://youtu.be/kl39KHS07Xc
Cant view youtube at work. Quick summary?
Are you for real realibrad? I've spent six years weighing that option, and the past two openly endorsing / pushing for it.
I'm surprised you had to ask, please start with the video he linked, it's a good explanation. As for some background context, I'll provide links to prior, related, topics to explain why it isn't a crazy idea.
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This thread is overly simplifying a complex issue. What do you mean by left-wing or right wing? Is it social liberalism v conservatism? Economic liberalism v conservatism? Capitalism v socialism v communism? Liberalism v totalitarianism? Democracy v autocracy? Just because the US is dominated by a two party system where it is easy to throw around "left v right", doesn't mean that the rest of the world's parties or parliaments can be explained by that simple dichotomy.
Universal Basic Income.
This is an interesting one to me. But in a way we have that here, just instead of money that can be used however one wants it is in the form or assisted rent and payments for food, free cell phone, etc. Different, but kind of the same I guess.
Hahahaha, oh boy are you a fucking idiot.
Worse? If your society is advanced enough its brilliant in every way, especially looking ahead into the next industrial revolution incoming.Much worse:
https://youtu.be/kl39KHS07Xc
Another quality posted added to the thread.
I'm surprised you had to ask, please start with the video he linked, it's a good explanation. As for some background context, I'll provide links to prior, related, topics to explain why it isn't a crazy idea.
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Spoken like the transparently dishonest retard that you are and without a hint of irony! Now please explain to all of us what UBI is so we can all laugh at your stupidity.
I think people can debate this concept today until they're blue in the face, but it's something which will inevitably happen by necessity in the future. They're pretty much already there in Europe. The US will follow some time this century.
It is universal basic income, a base income provided by the government to citizens. This is the last reply I'll give you until you can ask a question without throwing piddly insults at me. You're impressing no one.
This is an interesting one to me. But in a way we have that here, just instead of money that can be used however one wants it is in the form or assisted rent and payments for food, free cell phone, etc. Different, but kind of the same I guess.
When the US is comprised of mentally defunct idiots like @SlowSpyder and their "no to socialist healthcare, yes to the ACA" screaming inbred buddies, that's a pipe dream.