Is there a reason the non-propulsion features of EVs can’t be on ICE vehicles? Like self-driving, multi-camera recording systems, etc?
I wonder what the cost would be for an EV that had the same features as an ICE, but just an electric propulsion system instead of combustion.
But the push is to phase out ICE so why spend money on sunset products?
Tesla is not the only game in town.Maybe not anymore now that Tesla is gonna implode.
Personally I wouldn't want an EV anywhere it gets cold/snows.
I get it may not work for everyone but EVs still work just fine in the cold/snow. I'd even argue their overall weight and more even weight distribution often makes the better to drive in the snow than a lot of ICE vehicles. Most people, even in states like MI, still drive far less on a day to day basis than the range most EVs get in the cold. Our next car will be an EV - assuming we don't just get absolutely railed by the dumbshit rollercoaster ride we're on right now. That said charging infrastructure in a lot of more remote areas we go (middle Michigan and the UP) isn't great and we do travel some quite long distances at times so we'll keep our ICE hybrid as our other carMaybe not anymore now that Tesla is gonna implode.
Personally I wouldn't want an EV anywhere it gets cold/snows.
I took the plunge last week specifically because of that roller coaster ride. Bought my first EV (well leased, which is my first lease ever, to get the last remaining incentive dollars). I agree that weight and weight distribution should make snow driving better.I get it may not work for everyone but EVs still work just fine in the cold/snow. I'd even argue their overall weight and more even weight distribution often makes the better to drive in the snow than a lot of ICE vehicles. Most people, even in states like MI, still drive far less on a day to day basis than the range most EVs get in the cold. Our next car will be an EV - assuming we don't just get absolutely railed by the dumbshit rollercoaster ride we're on right now. That said charging infrastructure in a lot of more remote areas we go (middle Michigan and the UP) isn't great and we do travel some quite long distances at times so we'll keep our ICE hybrid as our other car
Curious where do you live and what did you get? I've been looking at EV leases as well.I took the plunge last week specifically because of that roller coaster ride. Bought my first EV (well leased, which is my first lease ever, to get the last remaining incentive dollars). I agree that weight and weight distribution should make snow driving better.
I live in the Midwest where cold is common. Range in the cold IS a concern to me. But, I made sure to get a vehicle that has enough range on the coldest day of the year (and also subtracting range for my speeds that I drive). Worst case scenario, there is one convenient charger on my commute, which just happens to be at a store that I like (REI). $1.00 for charging an hour there will get me enough miles to get home. Or, if I wanted to use the Level 3 charger, 30 minutes for $2 will get me 80% charged.
We just replaced our 12 year old hybrid in December, in part because it seemed like there was a small gap in the car market insanity post-COVID and before whatever coming up is going to be. I was strongly considering an EV because of tax credit uncertainty going forward but that didn't end up working out for a variety of reasonsI took the plunge last week specifically because of that roller coaster ride. Bought my first EV (well leased, which is my first lease ever, to get the last remaining incentive dollars). I agree that weight and weight distribution should make snow driving better.
I live in the Midwest where cold is common. Range in the cold IS a concern to me. But, I made sure to get a vehicle that has enough range on the coldest day of the year (and also subtracting range for my speeds that I drive). Worst case scenario, there is one convenient charger on my commute, which just happens to be at a store that I like (REI). $1.00 for charging an hour there will get me enough miles to get home. Or, if I wanted to use the Level 3 charger, 30 minutes for $2 will get me 80% charged.
Their AWD drive options don't have the best range but the EV6 and Ioniq 5 would be worth considering. I test drove a lot of EVs this past year and liked those two the most with the Ioniq being my likely purchase in ~2 years. Great warranty (admittedly less important for a lease), nice design, they don't have those atrocious looking tablet interfaces in the middle and still believe in physical buttons for climate control. Good tech implementation that still lets you set a lot of defaults. And they don't have 40 different trim/add-on combinations like a lot of others.Curious where do you live and what did you get? I've been looking at EV leases as well.
People in Norway don't seem to have issues.Maybe not anymore now that Tesla is gonna implode.
Personally I wouldn't want an EV anywhere it gets cold/snows.
Is AWD really a necessary thing though? Automakers have spent a lot of advertising money convincing people they need the features that add expense and profit.We just replaced our 12 year old hybrid in December, in part because it seemed like there was a small gap in the car market insanity post-COVID and before whatever coming up is going to be. I was strongly considering an EV because of tax credit uncertainty going forward but that didn't end up working out for a variety of reasons
Their AWD drive options don't have the best range but the EV6 and Ioniq 5 would be worth considering. I test drove a lot of EVs this past year and liked those two the most with the Ioniq being my likely purchase in ~2 years. Great warranty (admittedly less important for a lease), nice design, they don't have those atrocious looking tablet interfaces in the middle and still believe in physical buttons for climate control. Good tech implementation that still lets you set a lot of defaults. And they don't have 40 different trim/add-on combinations like a lot of others.
This is the way almost all new products roll to market. Starts at the high end, and as manufacturing improves and costs come down, the mid and low tiers get brought into the fold.This is what I'd love to see personally. I don't really care for all the tech I just want a basic EV that's actually affordable. Also zero connection to cloud servers, I just want it to be stand alone and not rely on any 3rd party stuff or have any tracking. Cars in general now are getting ridiculous in price though, even gas cars.
Criteria:Curious where do you live and what did you get? I've been looking at EV leases as well.
Lol, that seems like a pretty important feature to not have on a car.including doors falling off while driving
Opps, I edited my post. The doors flew open--it was the door seals that fell off while driving. The doors only fell of it that caused the door to hit something.Lol, that seems like a pretty important feature to not have on a car.
Non-detaching doors will cost extra.
Lol, that seems like a pretty important feature to not have on a car.
Non-detaching doors will cost extra.
The Ioniq 5 is either RWD or AWD so its more than just advertising - its a notable change in driving characteristics that I don't feel like adjusting to having test driven bothIs AWD really a necessary thing though? Automakers have spent a lot of advertising money convincing people they need the features that add expense and profit.