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umbrella39

Lifer
Jun 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: zendari
Oh noes! The poor pets!
In a topic like this it would be helpful to use the [sarcasm] tags (to tell if you are serious or not) so people can understand more about who you really are
No sarcasm implied - he's an ice cold jerk.
Originally posted by: joshw10
pets are better than other people
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Personally, if given the choice between saving my dog's life and the life of a stranger... the dog will win every time.
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: zendari
Oh noes! The poor pets!
Guess what... if I had room for my dogs or you on my boat, guess who is swimming? I would however, let you hang on to the edge. I can't promise my dogs would not bite your hand though, they are pretty good judges of character.
Just quoting for the record as to who are "ice cold jerks" and who aren't.

:roll:
 

CaptnKirk

Lifer
Jul 25, 2002
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
I have been caring for a small chihuahua. < ( LOOK ! )

It was near the building generator (not ours which has been running since the storm hit) as they were about to start it.

It wouldn't come to anyone but it came to me and stuck to me like glue.

I just checked on him again (it's 7 floors down, no elevators) before getting some sleep.

Niters all, tomorrow is another day to keep bringing this city back to life.

Dave


You're going to have a time of it getting that fattened up for Thanksgiving.



That's what you think now as you're typing your words in your cozy room. Once the sh1t hits the fan, you'll eat your precious dog to survive.



In the Orient there's a breed called ' Chow ' the linage goes back centuries.
 

1EZduzit

Lifer
Feb 4, 2002
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Originally posted by: Zebo
Personally, if given the choice between saving my dog's life and the life of a stranger... the dog will win every time.

You have issues. In fact maybe the whole country has issues the way I see pets babied like humans.

We have dogs, fish, a horse and I would'nt hesitate to cook one up for you or any other stranger.

I wouldn't eat my pet...... until after I ran out of road kill.
 

Red Dawn

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Jun 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Rainsford
It's one thing to be against saving pets' lives when it's not possible...but it's another to be a big jackass about it.
And quite another thing beyond THAT to place animal life above human life and be outspoken about it. The arrogant hypocracy of ATPN sickens me sometimes.
In all fairness I think they are having a hard time recognizing zendari's humanity. I can assure you that they would save him when they heard him begging for help even at the cost of their pet's life..
 

Strk

Lifer
Nov 23, 2003
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I can't remember her name, but the weekend anchor on The Today Show spoke about the pets roaming briefly. She simply said "quite a few of us reporters are definitely coming home with several new pets."

There have also been a few reports on the local news stations about people up here (I can't remember if it was from Rhode Island or Massachusetts) being sent down to help the animals in zoos and such. (These are people from animal groups, just incase a few people cry "why isn't the DVM helping people!?!??!")
 

CaptnKirk

Lifer
Jul 25, 2002
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Rainsford
It's one thing to be against saving pets' lives when it's not possible...but it's another to be a big jackass about it.
And quite another thing beyond THAT to place animal life above human life and be outspoken about it. The arrogant hypocracy of ATPN sickens me sometimes.
In all fairness I think they are having a hard time recognizing zendari's humanity. I can assure you that they would save him when they heard him begging for help even at the cost of their pet's life..

How do you know that if you rescue him he won't eat your cat ?

 

dahunan

Lifer
Jan 10, 2002
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Rainsford
It's one thing to be against saving pets' lives when it's not possible...but it's another to be a big jackass about it.
And quite another thing beyond THAT to place animal life above human life and be outspoken about it. The arrogant hypocracy of ATPN sickens me sometimes.
In all fairness I think they are having a hard time recognizing zendari's humanity. I can assure you that they would save him when they heard him begging for help even at the cost of their pet's life..



Choose between Pol Pot and your pet.. choose between Saddam and your pet ... choose between Hitler and your pet.... choose between a rabid neocon who would love to send your children off to die needlessly and who choose money over the life of another human being and your pet
 

gsaldivar

Diamond Member
Apr 30, 2001
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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: gsaldivar
I love my dog more than anything, but ultimately Human life > Animal life.
All/Any Human life?

With a few extreme exceptions (murderers, child molesters, etc.), sure.
 

cwjerome

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Sep 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: Rainsford

The left? I guess I can add you to the list of people incapable of posting anything without trying to make some sort of blanket statement about the left. It's growing to quite a group, I think cwjerome has started a newsletter.

Jeez, talk about unfair call-outs!

By the way, it's called "NeoCons-R-Us"

 

cwjerome

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Choose between Pol Pot and your pet.. choose between Saddam and your pet ... choose between Hitler and your pet.... choose between a rabid neocon who would love to send your children off to die needlessly and who choose money over the life of another human being and your pet

Pol Pot, Saddam, Hitler and neocons..... wow

Suffice to say I find the radical Left's rhetoric to be just as extreme and hateful as any ridiculous Falwell comment. (sorry Rainsford, gotta watch those generalizations). 2 peas in a pod.




 

Rainsford

Lifer
Apr 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: Rainsford

The left? I guess I can add you to the list of people incapable of posting anything without trying to make some sort of blanket statement about the left. It's growing to quite a group, I think cwjerome has started a newsletter.

Jeez, talk about unfair call-outs!

By the way, it's called "NeoCons-R-Us"

That was my bad...I just saw a post making a bunch of random generalizations about the left, and your name popped into my head. But again, my bad for the call out
 

Rainsford

Lifer
Apr 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: dahunan
Choose between Pol Pot and your pet.. choose between Saddam and your pet ... choose between Hitler and your pet.... choose between a rabid neocon who would love to send your children off to die needlessly and who choose money over the life of another human being and your pet

Pol Pot, Saddam, Hitler and neocons..... wow

Suffice to say I find the radical Left's rhetoric to be just as extreme and hateful as any ridiculous Falwell comment. (sorry Rainsford, gotta watch those generalizations). 2 peas in a pod.

Heh
 

cwjerome

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As far as the OP goes, I can sympathize. I am looking at my beautiful dogs whom I love very much, and I watched a video clip of a stranded dog on top of a car with water around him and it broke my heart, because I truly am an animal lover. Yet I know that logically, in the back of my mind, I would do whatever necessary to survive... and help other human beings to live. It's just a sh*t situation but reason would override emotion when the back's against the wall.

Good for the people trying to help the pets... of course as long as it's not at the expense of people.

 

hardwareguru84

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May 29, 2004
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All I know is, I'd rather sit and die and make sure my animals didn't suffer than leave them stranded. The argument than human life is more important than animal life is a bunch of garbage. All life is equal, from large to small. These pets are like family members. Would you leave a family member to possibly starve to death? I know I wouldn't. I heard a story today about a child screaming and screaming for his dog, and then threw up as they left it behind. Luckily the SPCA was able to get the dog back to them safe and sound, but what about the other animals suffering in sewage and dying from starvation? But then again, that's just my opinion.
 

cwjerome

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Originally posted by: hardwareguru84
All I know is, I'd rather sit and die and make sure my animals didn't suffer than leave them stranded. The argument than human life is more important than animal life is a bunch of garbage. All life is equal, from large to small. These pets are like family members. Would you leave a family member to possibly starve to death? I know I wouldn't. I heard a story today about a child screaming and screaming for his dog, and then threw up as they left it behind. Luckily the SPCA was able to get the dog back to them safe and sound, but what about the other animals suffering in sewage and dying from starvation? But then again, that's just my opinion.


Yes, it's just your opinion... but I doubt you can grasp just how evil it is.

"All life is equal" is heinously anti-Man. I think you'd change your mind if you actually thought out the consequences of your vile thinking.
 

hardwareguru84

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You're right, I don't grasp how in any way it's "evil" or "vile" to say that all life is equal. Every form of life on this planet serves a purpose, therby making them all equal. Now, if I was in dire straits would I save a human over an animal, of course, but would I still value the life of the animal equally, yes.
 

cwjerome

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Originally posted by: hardwareguru84
You're right, I don't grasp how in any way it's "evil" or "vile" to say that all life is equal. Every form of life on this planet serves a purpose, therby making them all equal. Now, if I was in dire straits would I save a human over an animal, of course, but would I still value the life of the animal equally, yes.


You don't make any sense. You are oblivious to your own contradiction because I think you really do know the hateful consequences of the "all life is equal" reasoning. Your evasion of this reality is not hidden.
 

hardwareguru84

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May 29, 2004
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No sense in going back and forth and ruining the topic. We obvilously disagree on what I mean by it. Back to the OP. Save the pets too!
 

Red Dawn

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Jun 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Rainsford
It's one thing to be against saving pets' lives when it's not possible...but it's another to be a big jackass about it.
And quite another thing beyond THAT to place animal life above human life and be outspoken about it. The arrogant hypocracy of ATPN sickens me sometimes.
In all fairness I think they are having a hard time recognizing zendari's humanity. I can assure you that they would save him when they heard him begging for help even at the cost of their pet's life..


Choose between Pol Pot and your pet.. choose between Saddam and your pet ... choose between Hitler and your pet.... choose between a rabid neocon who would love to send your children off to die needlessly and who choose money over the life of another human being and your pet
There are a few exceptions like the mass murderers you mention (not including the Neocon, that was just a stupid remark on your part)
 

zendari

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May 27, 2005
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Originally posted by: Rainsford

The left? I guess I can add you to the list of people incapable of posting anything without trying to make some sort of blanket statement about the left. It's growing to quite a group, I think cwjerome has started a newsletter.

Take a look at this thread and how many people agree with such a sentiment.

Liberals choosing property over human life is fine. Neocons choosing money over human life is bad.

Oh wait, money is freely exchangable for property, so hmmm........


The people who refuse to evac because they want to save their pets deserve what's coming to them.
 
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