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[power_hour]

He started shooting back when his shields were down to about 50%. My alt was on the way so I could've nailed him even if he'd been on the ball.

Interesting. He had an afterburner and MWD but fitted a disruptor only. That's a bullshit fitting. Had he fitted a faction scram he could easily of outrun you and bailed.

Regardless, awesome kill and looks fantastic on the stats. I have begun playing again, but just market PVP for now.

 

[Martimus]

Most PvP Tengus run with an oversized afterburner, or at least did when I last played regularly. That said, this is still a pretty impressive kill if he was fighting back.

 

[ichy]

Interesting. He had an afterburner and MWD but fitted a disruptor only. That's a bullshit fitting. Had he fitted a faction scram he could easily of outrun you and bailed.

I don't think that he knew what he was doing. His "safe spot" was warping to 100km of the sun in that particular system. My guess is that he buys ISK or he's mostly a carebear who think he can successfully PvP by spending tons of money on pimped out ships.

Edit: I had him scrambled and webbed, I don't think there's any possible way he could have outrun me.

 

[Kadarin]

Got a very nice expensive kill today.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=17841481

The guy said he fell asleep at a safe spot. Whoops!

I essentially did this once. My autopilot destination was to a .4 system, and I fell asleep. Woke up in time to see my ship destroyed... Derp

This, of course, was back in '05...

 

[power_hour]

I don't think that he knew what he was doing. His "safe spot" was warping to 100km of the sun in that particular system. My guess is that he buys ISK or he's mostly a carebear who think he can successfully PvP by spending tons of money on pimped out ships.

Edit: I had him scrambled and webbed, I don't think there's any possible way he could have outrun me.

If he had fitted a warp scram, he would have disabled your MWD. His oversized AB would have outrun you even while webbed unless your in some kind of insane nano drake

 

[ichy]

If he had fitted a warp scram, he would have disabled your MWD. His oversized AB would have outrun you even while webbed unless your in some kind of insane nano drake

Gotcha. If he couldn't even get safe spots right though I doubt he'd figure out how to get away from being webbed and scrambled.

 

[ichy]

I finally gave this guy's ninja-exploration setup a try:

http://eve-fail**blogspot*****/2011/12/topics-in-00-ninja-exploration-in**html

MUCH better than my old Drake/Buzzard ***bo, and the ability to blow through gate camps is really convenient** The only mistake I made was not taking enough torps on my first trip into null**

 

[ichy]

A few things I have learned about ninja exploration in the past week:

-The Tengu/Manticore combo that I'm using blows away my old Drake/Buzzard way of doing things.

-Null-sec is really safe once you find a quiet area to explore in.

-DED plexes appear to have been nerfed. I ran three 8/10 complexes and only got a single Rattlesnake BPC along with the Overseer Personal Effects. No deadspace loot at all.

-Ammo supply is a very big problem. I ran out of torpedoes very quickly. In the end my solution was to find a wormhole, go back into high sec that way and sneak a hauler into null. I anchored a giant secure container full of missiles and torpedoes at a safe spot, hopefully that will keep me going for a whole.

 

[Martimus]

That sucks about DED complexes. Those were the only PvE that I actually enjoyed, mostly because of the grab-bag of loot you could get. It was exciting in a Diablo kind of way.

Reading your post made me want to play again, and try some ninja exploration of my own, but the lack of loot kind of quashed that. I do think I will switch my training from leadership to T3 skills. Can't hurt to be able to fly those as well.

 

[ichy]

Martimus:

I don't know that DED complexes have been nerfed. It could just be that I got unlucky, but other people have been complaining about them as well. Maybe we've all had lousy luck recently? I'll keep you update on how my loot hunt is going.

What's nice is that magnetometric sites in null-sec have become more lucrative. I've made 50 million isk in just a few minutes from the T2 salvage that you can snag from them. Radar sites appear to be a waste of time.

 

[ichy]

Ok, a bit of clarification on DED complexes. As far as I can tell it's only 8/10 complexes that have been whacked with a nerf bat. For some weird reason they have become VERY common (I feel like half the systems in Vale of the Silent have a Pith's Penal Complex) but they don't drop good loot very frequently. This is all my personal experience though so it could be a fluke.

 

[ichy]

Quick update: I've run six 8/10 plexes so far and have gotten one Pith B-type drop and one Rattlesnake BPC. Not great, but not as bad as I feared.

 

[Martimus]

That still isn't very good. I used to get A-type drops regularly from 6/10 Bloodraider plexes. I would expect at least that from a 8/10, and I would have thought X-type would have been more common.

 

[ichy]

I think that x-type drops only come from 10/10s.

The drop rate is not great but that's balanced by the fact that 8/10s are very common. I've seen multiple complexes in a single system lots of times.

For some reason EVE was running very slowly on my computer, and often when NPCs would start shooting my system would grind to a halt for a minute or more. Yesterday that cost me my alt's stealth bomber . As far as I can tell an uninstall and clean reinstall of the EVE client solved the problem, just wish I'd figured it out before it cost me a ship. At least it wasn't my Tengu that got popped.

 

[Martimus]

I played for a few hours yesterday. I don't play often, so I decided to engage an obvious bait Rohk. A Falcon uncloaked and dropped a cyno. 4 Thannies and 5 Archons jumped in. However neither the Rohk or Falcon had a point, but my Megathron was slow enough to align that one of the carriers pointed me. While pointed and neuted, I just popped a Cap booster when my MWD ran out and managed to burn out of point range and warped away just as I hit structure. It was a 8M isk bill, but it was still fun. I expected to lose as soon as i engaged, since it was obvious bait, but it was still fun to get away from such a large hot drop.

 

[Red Storm]

I played for a few hours yesterday. I don't play often, so I decided to engage an obvious bait Rohk. A Falcon uncloaked and dropped a cyno. 4 Thannies and 5 Archons jumped in. However neither the Rohk or Falcon had a point, but my Megathron was slow enough to align that one of the carriers pointed me. While pointed and neuted, I just popped a Cap booster when my MWD ran out and managed to burn out of point range and warped away just as I hit structure. It was a 8M isk bill, but it was still fun. I expected to lose as soon as i engaged, since it was obvious bait, but it was still fun to get away from such a large hot drop.

All that for one Megathron? What exactly do they find enjoyable about this? I'm seriously clueless. Is it just kill whoring?

 

[Kadarin]

All that for one Megathron? What exactly do they find enjoyable about this? I'm seriously clueless. Is it just kill whoring?

They were probably just bored.

 

[Fallen Kell]

They risked a lot of assets if you ask me for a single mega...

 

[Martimus]

Back when I used to play regularly (over two years ago now), I used to regularly raid their space (Shadow Cartel) and I killed quite a few high value targets (a few high billion isk T3s, lots of T2's, some black ops BSes, and at least one Baalgorn and Macherial.) So they may have remembered me and wanted to get back at me.

 

[KaOTiK]

I'm amazed they didn't have a point setup too. They must have been desperate and haven't had action in awhile to do that for a lone mega lol.

Sold off 2 of my accounts so far, probably going to sell my jump freighter/hauler/mining character for pretty cheap now and call it a day.

 

[Martimus]

I was surprised as well that only the capitals had pointed me. It was able to burn away from the caps, and warp off, but it may have just been that I was out of range of the Falcon, since the Rohk was likely all tank in the mid slots.

 

[ichy]

Finally ran a DED complex that dropped a couple of pieces of Pith B-type loot. Not bad, but looking through market prices I realized that Pithum B-type (which I thought was crappier) is actually much more valuable. I guess that means that 6/10 complexes are worth more than 8/10s. Odd.

 

[TheVrolok]

They risked a lot of assets if you ask me for a single mega...

PL et al dropped an Erebus, 3x Aeon, 2x Archon from a rapier cyno on only my Cynabal. We had good laugh about it. Overkill is part of the fun! Yep, I had a cruiser get titan dropped.

 

[KaOTiK]

PL et al dropped an Erebus, 3x Aeon, 2x Archon from a rapier cyno on only my Cynabal. We had good laugh about it. Overkill is part of the fun! Yep, I had a cruiser get titan dropped.

lol that is funny. Best I saw years ago was a pair of Leviathan's with an Avatar along with about a dozen various mom's and around 18ish carriers get cyno'd in on a group of 10 total that was almost all BC's. I was tracking them for our roam and waiting for them to head to certain areas to cut them off. Needless to say when I witnessed that hotdrop I was like go home everyone, go home now!

 

[Fallen Kell]

So what advice would you give to a new null sec operator

Seriously, I have only lived in the drone regions of null before and have spent the majority of my eve time in wormhole space. What is there to do in null? I know I can now get some moongoo operations running. And I guess DED complexes (which I have never run before). Any recommendations on ships to run complexes?

I also need to finish training up my jump freighter pilot (which I had paused cause I really didn't need it for W-space).