Originally posted by: hooflung
EVE-Uni is a springboard to bigger and better things. This is one of their mandates. I think you have something personally against them.
Until recently I was in a very strict PVP corp that started a PVP alliance with other likeminded and popular corps in EVE. All we did was PVP and the requisite was that you have to be self sufficient. One of our directors is a graduate of EVE-Uni back a few years go and he's as cut throat as they come. They got him into EVE and to want 'more' than what they offer. Instead of going to Agony Unleashed, the usual spring board, he went to a corp that our founders broke off from.
It's a shame someone you know quit over them, but that is neither here nor there. People quit EVE for a host of reasons. If they quit because of who they were with they just limited themselves and used that as an excuse. Its almost worse than people who quit EVE because it was 'too vast and empty' of a game and they didn't want to socialize and find a place they fit in.
Eve-Uni does what it does and is successful. They aren't the best, far from it. But is a place of reference because you can learn other ways to play EVE there not just PVP.
Again, you sound like a bitter towards people you think you are better than. So what. There are always bigger fish and the recruitment threads are best served on EVE-O or SHC.
Think what you want. Some in here were mentioning E-UNI as a good corp to join for those who want to learn the game. I staunchly disagree, and decided to present the other side.
I know people who have taken hiatuses over their time in that corp, and while you may think it's really not relevant, I fail to see how it isn't. And while I realize there are many ways to play EVE (it is a sandbox, after all), what they "teach" people about the game is severely lopsided and unrealistic. It's simply my contention that those who want to learn to become self sufficient in EVE will not learn to do that through the University's training regimen.
You're right though. I do have something against them. I apologize in advance for the wall of text, but the story may help illustrate where I acquired my point of view.
A corp I was in declared war against another corp for interfering with one of our ops. After they puffed up their chests and called us every derisive name in the book, we struck a decisive blow and cost them over a billion in losses in 24 hours. They petitioned E-UNI for help, and were admitted to the IVY alliance.
What transpired next was absolutely ridiculous. Our CEO explained the situation to IVY diplomats, complete with screenshots, and was called a liar, a thief, and a filthy pirate. Though we were met at every turn with 50-100 man blobs of T1 frigates, we continued our campaign, and were badmouthed the entire time by IVY members and their alts (most notably Matrix Skye).
We organized strike teams and stabbed into their mining ops while their blobs camped our decoys, and probed out missioners as well. We joined the Privateers temporarily to organize larger strikes, and were insulted by IVY members for "running to an alliance", even though that's exactly what our first opponents did in the first place. We organized small interceptor stirkes against their stragglers while their blobs sat on the same gates for hours. The entire experience left me with the impression that their leadership didn't care one whit about their membership, and were only interested in the isk their large numbers provided, and political clout in the EVE community.
The fact that they've garnered the hatred of virtually every corp I've been apart of or worked with during my 3 years in EVE should say something. What that says I leave up to the reader.
Am I bitter? Not really... they can grift noobs all they want. It's part of the game. Am I going to shut up when other people recommend them to noobs as a way to get "the EVE experience"? Hells no.