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[ibex333]

Originally posted by: Mide
I'd try to get into a HAC. But yeah you're going to get raped out in lowsec if you're doing solo-anything.

But what about all those people that fly small cheap ships and still have plenty of fun? They die a lot but the kill a lot too!

 

[1ceHacka]

Originally posted by: Lakedaimon

Originally posted by: KaOTiK

Originally posted by: Lakedaimon

Originally posted by: KaOTiK
Sounds like you guys had some fun Michael

This weekend was a mess for my corp, goons invaded the space we are renting cause it was one of their allies old space and the ally wanted it back now. So spent a good amount of time moving stuff out of the station to a safe location and doing lots and lots of scouting for our fleets. The whole thing is a mess lol, on the bright side I was able to make a great deal for the subsystems for my T3 Legion I'm training towards. Warp bubbles will be a thing of the past oh yes!

I think I was involved in asploding your Tristan and pod the other night

That wasn't me

I fly an Anathema

Just a weird coincidence then... im a goon, I invaded some space Friday, and blew up someoned named "Kaotik" heh, so I hope you can understand my confusion

Used to be a Goon. I quit a few months ago and sold both my accounts. I was in IGNE and used to be based around the K9 area. It was so quit out there...got lots of officer and hauler spawns. I am starting to miss the gameplay now...

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: ibex333

Originally posted by: Mide
I'd try to get into a HAC. But yeah you're going to get raped out in lowsec if you're doing solo-anything.

But what about all those people that fly small cheap ships and still have plenty of fun? They die a lot but the kill a lot too!

I haven't been in null for that long, but trying to do anything solo in null is asking to get your ass kicked all over the place IMO.
The best you could hope for is finding miners and such, and hoping you take them out before their buddies show up and take you to school, but miners in null generally fit halfway decent tanks to their ships, so it's not like shooting paper ships.
As for Caldari and PvP, I asked this very question on another forum, and most of the people there seemed to agree that Caldari is perfectly fine for PvP. I tend to agree so far, I've done fine with Drakes(not so expensive to lose, though I'm gonna see if I can get a Rokh fitted out soon) in fleet PvP.

 

[Martimus]

Originally posted by: ibex333

Originally posted by: Mide
I'd try to get into a HAC. But yeah you're going to get raped out in lowsec if you're doing solo-anything.

But what about all those people that fly small cheap ships and still have plenty of fun? They die a lot but the kill a lot too!

Fly something cheap. Notice that the vast majority of my kills have come in a ship that costs less than 10M ISK. Of course, that is mostly because I have no real reliable way of making ISK, but hopefully that will be rectified once I start running Level 4 missions.

Anyway, flying and losing a cheap ship is no big deal. If you fight in Low Sec, the only way you will be podded is if you aren't on top of things when your ship pops, since there are no warp bubbles.

EDIT: Also, to answer your earlier question. A vagabond seems to do pretty well in Solo, since it is fast enough to GTFO when things go wrong. But others will probably be better suited to answer your question as to which is the best solo ship to fly.

 

[ibex333]

Martimus, you clearly have a lot more exp than I do when it comes to PvP but when it comes to missions, I would tell you not to bother since I done plenty of that. If you are doing missions for LP, it's one thing. But if you are doing them for ISK, it's a whole other story. I keep hearing tales about people making 20m isk easily per mission, but I have yet to see anything remotely close to that. Maybe that happens with top quality level 4 missions (I'm doing +4 lev 4 missions atm) but I see no such rewards atm. And did I mention the process is SLOOOW?! I been skill training for a long time now, but no matter how far I train it's never really enough. My Raven is fully t2 fitted, but I am still not doing enough damage to take down ships fast enough, and I cant hit the damned frigates with cruise missiles at all! I do a pitiful 24-40 damage or so to them. People keep talking about how drones help here, well I have t2 hobbies and hammies with average skills, and they still take forever to kill frigates and drones. And I'm not even going to mention how a battleship CRAWLS at snails pace to every acceleration gate... Maybe, just maybe a dominix will be slightly better at killing stuff in lev 4's, but the other issues will not go away.

I would strongly suggest that you forget the missions altogether and start ratting in 0.0. Join a 0.0 corp with SECURE space and rat your heart out. I am currently making 15 mil ISK EASILY in two hours or less, and I am not even fitted for maximum damage. The best thing here, is that you can go ahead and keep training your Dominix, because the fitting is similar for both ratting and missions! As a last note, I want to say that despite me mentioning "secure" 0.0 space above, there is actually no such thing per se. But as long as your corpies actually give a damn and gather up to chase out hostiles, they'll think twice before coming back. This, and watching local at all times, makes 0.0 pretty secure.

 

[Martimus]

Originally posted by: ibex333
Martimus, you clearly have a lot more exp than I do when it comes to PvP but when it comes to missions, I would tell you not to bother since I done plenty of that. If you are doing missions for LP, it's one thing. But if you are doing them for ISK, it's a whole other story. I keep hearing tales about people making 20m isk easily per mission, but I have yet to see anything remotely close to that. Maybe that happens with top quality level 4 missions (I'm doing +4 lev 4 missions atm) but I see no such rewards atm. And did I mention the process is SLOOOW?! I been skill training for a long time now, but no matter how far I train it's never really enough. My Raven is fully t2 fitted, but I am still not doing enough damage to take down ships fast enough, and I cant hit the damned frigates with cruise missiles at all! I do a pitiful 24-40 damage or so to them. People keep talking about how drones help here, well I have t2 hobbies and hammies with average skills, and they still take forever to kill frigates and drones. And I'm not even going to mention how a battleship CRAWLS at snails pace to every acceleration gate... Maybe, just maybe a dominix will be slightly better at killing stuff in lev 4's, but the other issues will not go away.

I would strongly suggest that you forget the missions altogether and start ratting in 0.0. Join a 0.0 corp with SECURE space and rat your heart out. I am currently making 15 mil ISK EASILY in two hours or less, and I am not even fitted for maximum damage. The best thing here, is that you can go ahead and keep training your Dominix, because the fitting is similar for both ratting and missions! As a last note, I want to say that despite me mentioning "secure" 0.0 space above, there is actually no such thing per se. But as long as your corpies actually give a damn and gather up to chase out hostiles, they'll think twice before coming back. This, and watching local at all times, makes 0.0 pretty secure.

Thanks. I can already rat in Low Sec pretty well in my PvP Thorax, and I would make around 10M a day doing it. I just get tired of it after a while, although if I am doing it for ISK and not standings, it may not be so bad (since I can actually shoot the random Destroyer/frig/cruiser I come accross.) I may go back to doing that and missioning when I get bored of Ratting. I am starting to play the market with my new alt character, but I haven't put much time into that yet. I may even start AFK mining with that character on my laptop while I play with my regular character. It may be worth while.

 

[Praxis1452]

Originally posted by: ibex333
Martimus, you clearly have a lot more exp than I do when it comes to PvP but when it comes to missions, I would tell you not to bother since I done plenty of that. If you are doing missions for LP, it's one thing. But if you are doing them for ISK, it's a whole other story. I keep hearing tales about people making 20m isk easily per mission, but I have yet to see anything remotely close to that. Maybe that happens with top quality level 4 missions (I'm doing +4 lev 4 missions atm) but I see no such rewards atm. And did I mention the process is SLOOOW?! I been skill training for a long time now, but no matter how far I train it's never really enough. My Raven is fully t2 fitted, but I am still not doing enough damage to take down ships fast enough, and I cant hit the damned frigates with cruise missiles at all! I do a pitiful 24-40 damage or so to them. People keep talking about how drones help here, well I have t2 hobbies and hammies with average skills, and they still take forever to kill frigates and drones. And I'm not even going to mention how a battleship CRAWLS at snails pace to every acceleration gate... Maybe, just maybe a dominix will be slightly better at killing stuff in lev 4's, but the other issues will not go away.

I would strongly suggest that you forget the missions altogether and start ratting in 0.0. Join a 0.0 corp with SECURE space and rat your heart out. I am currently making 15 mil ISK EASILY in two hours or less, and I am not even fitted for maximum damage. The best thing here, is that you can go ahead and keep training your Dominix, because the fitting is similar for both ratting and missions! As a last note, I want to say that despite me mentioning "secure" 0.0 space above, there is actually no such thing per se. But as long as your corpies actually give a damn and gather up to chase out hostiles, they'll think twice before coming back. This, and watching local at all times, makes 0.0 pretty secure.

LIGHT drones for frigates. Mediums have trouble since they changed sig radius and its effect.

It's not about the isk per mission, but the isk per time spent. If you can rush a mission, then why not. Easy LP.

Also salvaging is great. Don't run for CN if you want a better LP to isk ratio. Missions are proven better than 0.0, the only good thing about 0.0 is officers and faction rats. Also, remember your social skills that boost mission LP and reward. It matters. People make tons of isk running missions, just gotta do it right. And that does mean paying attention.

 

[Michael]

We have access to reasonably safe 0.0 space.

Ratting in 0.0 is about the same as running a level 4 missions. With bounties, minerals from loot (and maybe a few good module drops) and salvage I can make 20M from most level 4 missions.

Michael

 

[Genx87]

So restarted last Thurs. They gave me a free week so I couldnt resist. Game is a little different from the last time I played. Which I guess was in Oct of 2007. Anyways changed my training to get into a Rifter from an Tristan. Just needed a few skills like minmater frigate and projectile turrets. Salvage wasnt in the game the last time I remember. Probably train that next but the skill is running about 990K in my region and I only have ~800K oops!

Oh my character just turned 3 years old over the weekend and has 2.6 million skill points

Shows you how much I play this game hehe

 

[Martimus]

Originally posted by: Genx87
So restarted last Thurs. They gave me a free week so I couldnt resist. Game is a little different from the last time I played. Which I guess was in Oct of 2007. Anyways changed my training to get into a Rifter from an Tristan. Just needed a few skills like minmater frigate and projectile turrets. Salvage wasnt in the game the last time I remember. Probably train that next but the skill is running about 990K in my region and I only have ~800K oops!

Oh my character just turned 3 years old over the weekend and has 2.6 million skill points

Shows you how much I play this game hehe

Send me an eve-mail. I am Martimus28 in game. I'll see if I can help you get the skill books you need.

 

[ITPaladin]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Salvage wasnt in the game the last time I remember. Probably train that next but the skill is running about 990K in my region and I only have ~800K oops!

Salvage skill book is "free" from one of the rookie agent missions.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: ITPaladin

Originally posted by: Genx87
Salvage wasnt in the game the last time I remember. Probably train that next but the skill is running about 990K in my region and I only have ~800K oops!

Salvage skill book is "free" from one of the rookie agent missions.

Thanks, looking them up. I may just purchase it to save time. Sounds like you can get some serious cash from salvaged parts to make the money back quickly.

 

[Raduque]

I just canceled my account. I was getting bored with it.

 

[ITPaladin]

Not everyone can handle the free-style play. Some need the "amusement park" style.

 

[RedChief]

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
Also salvaging is great. Don't run for CN if you want a better LP to isk ratio. Missions are proven better than 0.0, the only good thing about 0.0 is officers and faction rats. Also, remember your social skills that boost mission LP and reward. It matters. People make tons of isk running missions, just gotta do it right. And that does mean paying attention.

As someone who has done both missions and now lives in 0.0, your statement isn't exactly true. If your ratting in Great Wildlands or Syndicate or Geminate, your not going to make much per hour because the system sec status is low. Now if you can rat in Venal, then you can make a lot of isk due to broke NPC pirate tru-sec.

Plexing though is even more profitable. I made 15b+ on plexes in Venal and this was doing mostly 6/10 or 8/10s.

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: RedChief

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
Also salvaging is great. Don't run for CN if you want a better LP to isk ratio. Missions are proven better than 0.0, the only good thing about 0.0 is officers and faction rats. Also, remember your social skills that boost mission LP and reward. It matters. People make tons of isk running missions, just gotta do it right. And that does mean paying attention.

As someone who has done both missions and now lives in 0.0, your statement isn't exactly true. If your ratting in Great Wildlands or Syndicate or Geminate, your not going to make much per hour because the system sec status is low. Now if you can rat in Venal, then you can make a lot of isk due to broke NPC pirate tru-sec.

Plexing though is even more profitable. I made 15b+ on plexes in Venal and this was doing mostly 6/10 or 8/10s.

Venal isn't broken Delve is the region with the "broken" true sec issue because back in the day it was all sovereign ( Controlled by the now dead BoB) space but was later broken up partially into npc space by CCP.

 

[damocles]

Just trying the trial at the moment. Can the UI be changed? The fonts are tiny and the the interface is very mouse clicky.

 

[ITPaladin]

Originally posted by: damocles
Just trying the trial at the moment. Can the UI be changed? The fonts are tiny and the the interface is very mouse clicky.

It has been asked a long time. Apparently they may change the UI maybe
in the future.

ESC menu. Fonts are changable there for the UI. Chat fonts on the chat window.

The UI is all about Right Click is Your Friend.

 

[damocles]

Cheers, I may way until a new UI comes in. The game looks fun but I am really straining to see the text

 

[ITPaladin]

Then you may wait a long time.
As I said, ESC>General Settings>font size: 12, font width: expanded.
Chat windows>a-/A+

 

[damocles]

Originally posted by: ITPaladin
Then you may wait a long time.
As I said, ESC>General Settings>font size: 12, font width: expanded.
Chat windows>a-/A+

Thanks

I changed to 12 but it is still too small for me. I don't mind waiting though - I'm just looking for a MMO to kill some time.

 

[RedChief]

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: RedChief

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
Also salvaging is great. Don't run for CN if you want a better LP to isk ratio. Missions are proven better than 0.0, the only good thing about 0.0 is officers and faction rats. Also, remember your social skills that boost mission LP and reward. It matters. People make tons of isk running missions, just gotta do it right. And that does mean paying attention.

As someone who has done both missions and now lives in 0.0, your statement isn't exactly true. If your ratting in Great Wildlands or Syndicate or Geminate, your not going to make much per hour because the system sec status is low. Now if you can rat in Venal, then you can make a lot of isk due to broke NPC pirate tru-sec.

Plexing though is even more profitable. I made 15b+ on plexes in Venal and this was doing mostly 6/10 or 8/10s.

Venal isn't broken Delve is the region with the "broken" true sec issue because back in the day it was all sovereign ( Controlled by the now dead BoB) space but was later broken up partially into npc space by CCP.

All NPC Pirate home regions are broken true sec. By broken true sec, I mean that all systems have the equivalent of -1.0 sec status when it comes to rat spawns. From the RP view, Guristas (Venal), Sansha (Stain) and Blood Raiders (Delve) are NPC Pirate factions. Angels (Curse) and Serpentis (Fountain) are not. Delve is special because even though the entire regions tru-sec is broken, Blood Raiders only have sov over a half-dozen systems.

 

[Martimus]

My first battleship PvP battle turned out well. Fight
I warped to the gate, and engaged the Megathron. (Really I just scrammed and neuted him.) He made his way back to the gate and jumped, and the rest of the fleet followed while I had to wait out my aggression timer on this side of the gate. His two Armageddon friends jumped through to my side and immediately aggressed me. I just sat at the gate taking the beating, while I waited for the fleet to finish off the Mega, and burn back to the gate to attack the Armageddons. Once they jumped back, I jumped through and they pointed and finnished off their little gank squad. I like having a ship that can tank gate guns and two high DPS geddons. I just don't like how slow it is.

Fighting in a BS is fun too, I don't need to keep flying small ships around every fight it seems.

 

[Praxis1452]

Originally posted by: RedChief

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
Also salvaging is great. Don't run for CN if you want a better LP to isk ratio. Missions are proven better than 0.0, the only good thing about 0.0 is officers and faction rats. Also, remember your social skills that boost mission LP and reward. It matters. People make tons of isk running missions, just gotta do it right. And that does mean paying attention.

As someone who has done both missions and now lives in 0.0, your statement isn't exactly true. If your ratting in Great Wildlands or Syndicate or Geminate, your not going to make much per hour because the system sec status is low. Now if you can rat in Venal, then you can make a lot of isk due to broke NPC pirate tru-sec.

Plexing though is even more profitable. I made 15b+ on plexes in Venal and this was doing mostly 6/10 or 8/10s.

And how hot is venal? what if people come in? It takes away too much time. So much more volatile.

Plexes ARE where it's at though. It's what I do. Comparing only missions and 0.0 ratting, I've got to say that missions are way better.

 

[Martimus]

Originally posted by: Praxis1452

Originally posted by: RedChief

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
Also salvaging is great. Don't run for CN if you want a better LP to isk ratio. Missions are proven better than 0.0, the only good thing about 0.0 is officers and faction rats. Also, remember your social skills that boost mission LP and reward. It matters. People make tons of isk running missions, just gotta do it right. And that does mean paying attention.

As someone who has done both missions and now lives in 0.0, your statement isn't exactly true. If your ratting in Great Wildlands or Syndicate or Geminate, your not going to make much per hour because the system sec status is low. Now if you can rat in Venal, then you can make a lot of isk due to broke NPC pirate tru-sec.

Plexing though is even more profitable. I made 15b+ on plexes in Venal and this was doing mostly 6/10 or 8/10s.

And how hot is venal? what if people come in? It takes away too much time. So much more volatile.

Plexes ARE where it's at though. It's what I do. Comparing only missions and 0.0 ratting, I've got to say that missions are way better.

I have to agree that Plexes are nice. The last two days I have gone to a 6/10 plex. After probing out the plexers and podding them, we finished off the plex for them and made quite a bit of ISK.

The second time was actually supposed to be a trap, but the two fail fit BC's didn't realize that you can't light a cyno in dead space, plus they were dumb enough to log off as soon as they were aggressed. Both ships were killed, then we probed out the cyno pilots pod, and podded him. Dumb Plexers