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Raduque

Lifer
Aug 22, 2004
13,141
138
106
Originally posted by: Martimus
JStorms second kill was a CVA Tempest who thought it was a good idea to take a Battleship out solo in Low Sec.
Wow, that BS got completely ganked. 11 on 1 - sucked to be him.

To my suprise he stayed right there. I pointed him, and started going to work on him, and he went down rather quickly. What was funny is that he had two warp core stabilizers fitted, so he could have warped off at any time.

Maybe afk-mining?
 

v8envy

Platinum Member
Sep 7, 2002
2,720
0
0
Originally posted by: omber
Reactivated my accounts today: Amos Sommers and Geralt

*THE* omberzombie is back? Holy crap, never noticed you were an ATer.

Looking forward to seeing you in scc-lounge where I can properly troll you about the CSM.
 
Feb 7, 2006
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Ok guys, I need help Should I be struggling this much with the last few missions of the Epic story line? I was in I lost 2 kestrels on missions last night. Does anyone have a good guide on how to fly a frigate well? Thanks!
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
27,399
3,947
126
kestral should get some named launchers -- make sure to fit the correct missles for the damage you want to do. Shield extenders/ab/invuln field mids and damage control / ballistics in lows
 

blipblop

Senior member
Jun 23, 2004
639
0
76
If anyone needs some help contact me in game. I'm part of a large 0.0 alliance and would be willing to help newcomers along with anything.

Name in game is "Murdis3"
 

Martimus

Diamond Member
Apr 24, 2007
4,488
153
106
Originally posted by: Raduque
Originally posted by: Martimus
To my suprise he stayed right there. I pointed him, and started going to work on him, and he went down rather quickly. What was funny is that he had two warp core stabilizers fitted, so he could have warped off at any time.

Maybe afk-mining?

Probably. Actually I think he was running dual accounts, and was using his bestower while I ganked the Covetor. As soon as I locked the Bestower, when the covetor was in structure, it warped off. I left probably 20M ISK in ore sitting in a jet can there. If I had known the value of the ore, I might have grabbed an industrial and grabbed it.
 

DrunkenSano

Diamond Member
Aug 8, 2008
3,892
490
126
When people talk about how getting Learning to 5 and Adv. learning to 4 for long term playing, I assume they are talking about getting Learning, Analytical Mind, Instant Recall to Rank 5, and Eidetic Memory, and Logic to Rank 4?
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
41,095
513
126
Originally posted by: DrunkenSano
When people talk about how getting Learning to 5 and Adv. learning to 4 for long term playing, I assume they are talking about getting Learning, Analytical Mind, Instant Recall to Rank 5, and Eidetic Memory, and Logic to Rank 4?

Yes
 

Kadarin

Lifer
Nov 23, 2001
44,303
15
81
Dominion looks interesting, as does Incarna and the whole Dust 514 thing. Although console FPS aren't my thing, it'll be interesting to see how this affects EVE gameplay. I might even resubscribe....
 

datalink7

Lifer
Jan 23, 2001
16,765
6
81
So how should you progress in your skills? I have a Vexor again (thanks Martimus!). Just doing Tier II missions. I have most of my learning up (all first tiers to level 5, and most of the expensive ones to level 4). I am doing Drone Interfacing now as it seems I mostly do damage with my drones. Should I improve my gunnery at all (it is a bit lacking... nothing above a level 3 I don't think)? How about my shield/armor/energy/etc skills (all level 3's or below)? Or just try to maximize drones (most of my skill points are here... some level 5's and a lot of level 4's)?

And should I try to be going for a Battlecruiser or just work on getting the best stuff for my Vexor?

Thanks.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
41,095
513
126
Originally posted by: datalink7
So how should you progress in your skills? I have a Vexor again (thanks Martimus!). Just doing Tier II missions. I have most of my learning up (all first tiers to level 5, and most of the expensive ones to level 4). I am doing Drone Interfacing now as it seems I mostly do damage with my drones. Should I improve my gunnery at all (it is a bit lacking... nothing above a level 3 I don't think)? How about my shield/armor/energy/etc skills (all level 3's or below)? Or just try to maximize drones (most of my skill points are here... some level 5's and a lot of level 4's)?

And should I try to be going for a Battlecruiser or just work on getting the best stuff for my Vexor?

Thanks.

I think it depends on how you want to fight. A vexor is a drone boat. I call it the baby Dominix. I decided to go drones and defese as I progressed. I'd send in the drones on my vexor and used tractor beams and salvagers in the highs to clean up the aftermath. My gun skills are pathetically low. Once I am where I feel comfortable in my tanking and drone capability. Ill go back and train up my guns.
 

datalink7

Lifer
Jan 23, 2001
16,765
6
81
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: datalink7
So how should you progress in your skills? I have a Vexor again (thanks Martimus!). Just doing Tier II missions. I have most of my learning up (all first tiers to level 5, and most of the expensive ones to level 4). I am doing Drone Interfacing now as it seems I mostly do damage with my drones. Should I improve my gunnery at all (it is a bit lacking... nothing above a level 3 I don't think)? How about my shield/armor/energy/etc skills (all level 3's or below)? Or just try to maximize drones (most of my skill points are here... some level 5's and a lot of level 4's)?

And should I try to be going for a Battlecruiser or just work on getting the best stuff for my Vexor?

Thanks.

I think it depends on how you want to fight. A vexor is a drone boat. I call it the baby Dominix. I decided to go drones and defese as I progressed. I'd send in the drones on my vexor and used tractor beams and salvagers in the highs to clean up the aftermath. My gun skills are pathetically low. Once I am where I feel comfortable in my tanking and drone capability. Ill go back and train up my guns.

Woah, tractor beam? That sounds cool. Currently I go around after the fight and salvage from the wrecks and it takes forever. Particularly because some of the time I'm running while my drones are fighting and everything gets spread out. What is the range on the tractor beam?
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
41,095
513
126
Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: datalink7
So how should you progress in your skills? I have a Vexor again (thanks Martimus!). Just doing Tier II missions. I have most of my learning up (all first tiers to level 5, and most of the expensive ones to level 4). I am doing Drone Interfacing now as it seems I mostly do damage with my drones. Should I improve my gunnery at all (it is a bit lacking... nothing above a level 3 I don't think)? How about my shield/armor/energy/etc skills (all level 3's or below)? Or just try to maximize drones (most of my skill points are here... some level 5's and a lot of level 4's)?

And should I try to be going for a Battlecruiser or just work on getting the best stuff for my Vexor?

Thanks.

I think it depends on how you want to fight. A vexor is a drone boat. I call it the baby Dominix. I decided to go drones and defese as I progressed. I'd send in the drones on my vexor and used tractor beams and salvagers in the highs to clean up the aftermath. My gun skills are pathetically low. Once I am where I feel comfortable in my tanking and drone capability. Ill go back and train up my guns.

Woah, tractor beam? That sounds cool. Currently I go around after the fight and salvage from the wrecks and it takes forever. Particularly because some of the time I'm running while my drones are fighting and everything gets spread out. What is the range on the tractor beam?

20km for the tractor beam and it pulls at 500 meters\sec. And yes it used to take me forever as well. 2x Tractor beams in the highs may be the best 1.8 million I ever spent.
 

Kadarin

Lifer
Nov 23, 2001
44,303
15
81
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: datalink7
So how should you progress in your skills? I have a Vexor again (thanks Martimus!). Just doing Tier II missions. I have most of my learning up (all first tiers to level 5, and most of the expensive ones to level 4). I am doing Drone Interfacing now as it seems I mostly do damage with my drones. Should I improve my gunnery at all (it is a bit lacking... nothing above a level 3 I don't think)? How about my shield/armor/energy/etc skills (all level 3's or below)? Or just try to maximize drones (most of my skill points are here... some level 5's and a lot of level 4's)?

And should I try to be going for a Battlecruiser or just work on getting the best stuff for my Vexor?

Thanks.

I think it depends on how you want to fight. A vexor is a drone boat. I call it the baby Dominix. I decided to go drones and defese as I progressed. I'd send in the drones on my vexor and used tractor beams and salvagers in the highs to clean up the aftermath. My gun skills are pathetically low. Once I am where I feel comfortable in my tanking and drone capability. Ill go back and train up my guns.

Woah, tractor beam? That sounds cool. Currently I go around after the fight and salvage from the wrecks and it takes forever. Particularly because some of the time I'm running while my drones are fighting and everything gets spread out. What is the range on the tractor beam?

20km for the tractor beam and it pulls at 500 meters\sec. And yes it used to take me forever as well. 2x Tractor beams in the highs may be the best 1.8 million I ever spent.

It'll take a while for you to get there, but the Marauder class ship has a 100% bonus on tractor beam range, so you get up to 40km. That makes life a LOT easier for mission runners. The Orca has a 70km range (though that's a mining support ship).
 

Martimus

Diamond Member
Apr 24, 2007
4,488
153
106
Originally posted by: datalink7
So how should you progress in your skills? I have a Vexor again (thanks Martimus!). Just doing Tier II missions. I have most of my learning up (all first tiers to level 5, and most of the expensive ones to level 4). I am doing Drone Interfacing now as it seems I mostly do damage with my drones. Should I improve my gunnery at all (it is a bit lacking... nothing above a level 3 I don't think)? How about my shield/armor/energy/etc skills (all level 3's or below)? Or just try to maximize drones (most of my skill points are here... some level 5's and a lot of level 4's)?

And should I try to be going for a Battlecruiser or just work on getting the best stuff for my Vexor?

Thanks.

Download Eve-mon, and use that to help determine what skills you want to train. If you go the drones and tank route (which just happened to be the route I took when I started as well), you are going to want to train for Hammerhead II's, and Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II's. Just doing these two things will get most of those skills up to an acceptable level. Also, if you can't fit a Damage Control II, make sure you train the skills for that, as it is often the most important fitting on almost every ship.

Other less important skills to train for the "tank and drones" route are the skills needed for sentry drones (get drone interfacing to L4, and one other drone skill - can't remember which), and get all the armor resistance skills up to level 3 or 4. These are important as you progress, but are less important at the early stages. You will eventually want to train for Ogre II's as well, as they do a great amount of damage, but they take around 40 days to train after you get to Hammerhead II's, so they will probably get pushed back in your priority list.
 

datalink7

Lifer
Jan 23, 2001
16,765
6
81
Originally posted by: Martimus
Originally posted by: datalink7
So how should you progress in your skills? I have a Vexor again (thanks Martimus!). Just doing Tier II missions. I have most of my learning up (all first tiers to level 5, and most of the expensive ones to level 4). I am doing Drone Interfacing now as it seems I mostly do damage with my drones. Should I improve my gunnery at all (it is a bit lacking... nothing above a level 3 I don't think)? How about my shield/armor/energy/etc skills (all level 3's or below)? Or just try to maximize drones (most of my skill points are here... some level 5's and a lot of level 4's)?

And should I try to be going for a Battlecruiser or just work on getting the best stuff for my Vexor?

Thanks.

Download Eve-mon, and use that to help determine what skills you want to train. If you go the drones and tank route (which just happened to be the route I took when I started as well), you are going to want to train for Hammerhead II's, and Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II's. Just doing these two things will get most of those skills up to an acceptable level. Also, if you can't fit a Damage Control II, make sure you train the skills for that, as it is often the most important fitting on almost every ship.

Other less important skills to train for the "tank and drones" route are the skills needed for sentry drones (get drone interfacing to L4, and one other drone skill - can't remember which), and get all the armor resistance skills up to level 3 or 4. These are important as you progress, but are less important at the early stages. You will eventually want to train for Ogre II's as well, as they do a great amount of damage, but they take around 40 days to train after you get to Hammerhead II's, so they will probably get pushed back in your priority list.

Ok thanks. That gives me an idea. I'll just forget about my gun skills for now and concentrate on getting Hamerhead II's first, and work my armor from there.
 

Michael

Elite member
Nov 19, 1999
5,435
234
106
In general, a BC uses cruiser equipment, so I tended to do fit, tank, gank skills and rotated between them. You can fly a BS pretty quickly, but you'll fly it poorly with fitting and tanking skills. So get good at cruisers and battle cruisers before switching to BS. You'll need to be able to fly BS decently to be able to solo level 4 missions.

Michael
 

Raduque

Lifer
Aug 22, 2004
13,141
138
106
Do the (Thermic, EM, Kinetic, Explosive) Shield Compensation skills affect Invulnerability Field modules?
 

nsafreak

Diamond Member
Oct 16, 2001
7,093
3
81
Originally posted by: Raduque
Do the (Thermic, EM, Kinetic, Explosive) Shield Compensation skills affect Invulnerability Field modules?

When the module is not active, yes they do. When the module is activated though they do not add their bonuses on to the active module state. They're still worth having though since there will be times that you want to have a few passive shield resistance hardeners on your setup.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
41,095
513
126
Originally posted by: Kadarin
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: datalink7
So how should you progress in your skills? I have a Vexor again (thanks Martimus!). Just doing Tier II missions. I have most of my learning up (all first tiers to level 5, and most of the expensive ones to level 4). I am doing Drone Interfacing now as it seems I mostly do damage with my drones. Should I improve my gunnery at all (it is a bit lacking... nothing above a level 3 I don't think)? How about my shield/armor/energy/etc skills (all level 3's or below)? Or just try to maximize drones (most of my skill points are here... some level 5's and a lot of level 4's)?

And should I try to be going for a Battlecruiser or just work on getting the best stuff for my Vexor?

Thanks.

I think it depends on how you want to fight. A vexor is a drone boat. I call it the baby Dominix. I decided to go drones and defese as I progressed. I'd send in the drones on my vexor and used tractor beams and salvagers in the highs to clean up the aftermath. My gun skills are pathetically low. Once I am where I feel comfortable in my tanking and drone capability. Ill go back and train up my guns.

Woah, tractor beam? That sounds cool. Currently I go around after the fight and salvage from the wrecks and it takes forever. Particularly because some of the time I'm running while my drones are fighting and everything gets spread out. What is the range on the tractor beam?

20km for the tractor beam and it pulls at 500 meters\sec. And yes it used to take me forever as well. 2x Tractor beams in the highs may be the best 1.8 million I ever spent.

It'll take a while for you to get there, but the Marauder class ship has a 100% bonus on tractor beam range, so you get up to 40km. That makes life a LOT easier for mission runners. The Orca has a 70km range (though that's a mining support ship).

Interesting, thanks for the info.
 
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