EVE!

[Martimus]

If I'm flying a caldari ship though it seems like I could do a lot more damage if I hit them with rockets rather than just drones.

A cormorant with Rails would do well. Or even a Crow, and keep distance. Other than other Crows, their aren't many interceptors who could defend against that. Just don't engage any Ishkurs or they will eat you alive.

 

[JRich]

Is this solo?

 

[ichy]

Probably. Right now I'm in a corp which advertised itself as being in 0.0 but seems to mainly be doing high-sec mission running at this point. If things don't change in the near future I'll probably go looking for a new corp to join.

 

[ichy]

Yay, this reformed carebear got his first real PvP kill. I set myself up in a 0.0 ratting Drake and someone in a flycatcher caught me in his warp bubble. He must've not expected me to be set up for PvP since he didn't have any backup nearby. I webbed & scrambled him & then proceeded to blow him to pieces. So much more satisfying than mission running

 

[Martimus]

nice job. You'll never think Mission running is fun again.

 

[Raduque]

I'm out!

Negative cash inflow affects my Eve account negatively.

 

[Drift3r]

Probably. Right now I'm in a corp which advertised itself as being in 0.0 but seems to mainly be doing high-sec mission running at this point. If things don't change in the near future I'll probably go looking for a new corp to join.

When I joined my corp here is what I asked for in the recruitment thread and channel many moons ago.

--> Looking for a corp living sovereign space who does not rent their space. <---- This automatically weeded out those low sec, high sec corps who are desperate for new players but claimed to be "0.0" corps and the puppet corps/alliances who rent space.

 

[TheVrolok]

Had a fairly good battle last night. We took the field initially, but had to bug out in the end. They ended up with 7 carriers on field and we simply couldn't out damage the repping. Here's the battle report, although it is a bit messed up:

http://www.minmatar-militia.org/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=100272

 

[ichy]

When I joined my corp here is what I asked for in the recruitment thread and channel many moons ago.

--> Looking for a corp living sovereign space who does not rent their space. <---- This automatically weeded out those low sec, high sec corps who are desperate for new players but claimed to be "0.0" corps and the puppet corps/alliances who rent space.

I may end up doing something similar. For now I'm fine doing solo ratting in 0.0 while I wait to see if my current corp gets its act together. Another thing I'm working on is training the skills to fly a Rifter properly. I've always flown Caldari ships until now, but the Rifter looks like it's the ultimate low-cost PvP ship.

 

[v8envy]

I may end up doing something similar. For now I'm fine doing solo ratting in 0.0 while I wait to see if my current corp gets its act together. Another thing I'm working on is training the skills to fly a Rifter properly. I've always flown Caldari ships until now, but the Rifter looks like it's the ultimate low-cost PvP ship.

IMO the ultimate low to no cost PvP ship is the Domi. Hard to move around in one in 0.0, but even T1 fit those things have great flexibility, a tank from hell and reasonable DPS.

Just insure it and don't bother to rig it. It does require drone interfacing V and gallente BS V to really work well. Having the remote rep and other ewar skills trained up doesn't hurt. And you can stick a probe launcher and cloak on it for the ultimate swiss army chainsaw of a ride. My semi-ratting fit had 3 tachyons up high because ammo can be a pain in the ass 53 jumps into 0.0.

Currently Domis are about 1 million under insurance payout in highsec and a lot less than that throughout most of 0.0. That's enough for a t1 rat droppings fit and a flight of warrior IIs (the rest of your drones can be T1). Very few generic setups can handle a domi solo -- you may not be able to kill them, but they won't be able to take you down either. I remember tanking a red recon and a 3x battleship spawn until he got bored.

And if you're being P&P&P&P&P...&PvPd, it doesn't matter what you're flying. If you lose it no big deal.

 

[ichy]

It does require drone interfacing V and gallente BS V to really work well.

That last part is a bit of a problem, frigate skills are much faster to train.

What would be a good ship for moving supplies relatively safely through low-sec? Right now I'm basing my ratting Drake out of a 0.2 system that's about a dozen jumps away from Jita. It offers easy access to fairly quiet 0.0 space, but I'm looking for a way to safely haul salvage/loot back to areas where the market is better. I'd also like to buy supplies in Jita and resell them at the 0.2 station since I could get much higher prices there, but I'd hate to lose a couple hundred million isk worth of stuff to a gatecamp.

 

[v8envy]

I used a covops as a hauler for months. A prowler and most recons are good alternatives with large cargo bays.

Problem is, you will be ganked sooner or later no matter what you fly if you use gates. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when. At some point you'll blunder into a really large, organized camp that *just* set up on the pipe with an inty pilot experienced at decloaking people. Or forget to set an off-axis bookmark in a 2 gate system with no off-axis celestial objects. Or jump in within decloak range of an enemy drone. It's unlikely, but will happen at some point.

Inties aren't all that for 0.0 hauling. Problem with them: a better inty can catch you.

So the only reliable and safe way to do 0.0 logistics is ships with jump drives, alt scouts, cyno alts and a bit of a brain. It helps if the intermediate points and destination are full of blues.

Woops, missed the lowsec part. For lowsec anything with a covops cloak is safe enough. I prefer a blockade runner or recon -- they can survive a smartbombing BS where a covops may not. A cloak, MWD, and rig & fit for agility and speed not cargo capacity, look at pilots in space counts and you should be more than OK.

 

[ichy]

Gotcha. I may end up opening a second trial account just so I can have someone who can scout ahead of me for gate camps.

 

[heat901]

sigh... sometimes I miss this game

 

[VooDooAddict]

IMO the ultimate low to no cost PvP ship is the Domi. Hard to move around in one in 0.0, but even T1 fit those things have great flexibility, a tank from hell and reasonable DPS.

Just insure it and don't bother to rig it. It does require drone interfacing V and gallente BS V to really work well.

Don't scare people away from the Whale. Gallente BattleShip 4 and Drone Interfacing 4 are enough to get going well.

For someone just getting going with a Domi, I'd have them work more on getting t2 repair systems before Battleship 5 or Interfacing 5. Get a good balanced tank setup and then work on increasing the DPS whit Interfacing 5 and BS 5.

The Armageddon is also a favorite of mine for an inexpensive ships that can pack a punch, take a few hits, and rat well on 0.0.

 

[Malladine]

nice job. You'll never think Mission running is fun again.

I stopped thinking that after about half a dozen missions...

I'm thinking about coming back....it's either EVE or the unmentionable.

 

[VooDooAddict]

I stopped thinking that after about half a dozen missions...

I'm thinking about coming back....it's either EVE or the unmentionable.

Why not both?

When new expansions come out for the "unmentionable" I que up some month long skills and pull out the bear. For a month or two I max out level and run though all the instances once or twice. It's fun, you can admit it. But after I make it through the content and level range I don't like grinding for gear and I don't enjoy having 16 alts.

You enjoy the best parts of the unmentionable and the pain of month+ long skills is slightly dulled. Then back into the void.

If you don't already have them here are some good ones to hit while jumping into the unmentionable:
Cruiser 5
Battleship 5
Drone Interfacing 5
Misc Large Gun of Choice 5
Cruise 5
Torp 5
Heavy Drone 5

 

[Malladine]

You know that's some good advice. Just have to justify the money though... new baby, lots of bills coming due right now...maybe i'll just cut out beer

IIRC my character was 4 million sp...maybe 3 i can't check him here but same name...so i don't have too many Vs. Definately none of those except cruiser V. I have no missile skills either, at all. Gone entirely drones/projectile guns. Plenty to work on no doubt.

The main trick for me is to change my play style. I played too risky and as a result lost a lot of ships in embarrassing ways. Also, my inventory/hangar management left a LOT to be desired. It'd take me days to get it back under control if I resubbed.

 

[VooDooAddict]

Also, my inventory/hangar management left a LOT to be desired. It'd take me days to get it back under control if I resubbed.

I had the same issue when I came back after being gone for almost 2 years. No idea where anything was located, and I had rat and loot everywhere.

Instead of stressing over it. I took a shuttle and flew to every place that I had loot. Sold it all right there or reprocessed it and sold the minerals. Did that for everything except my main 2 ships and those ships gear. Did I maximize what I earned from that? Certainly not. Did I have a nice little chunk of cash to get started fresh? Most certainly.

The other option is to get an indy; pick it all up (or all the reprocessed minerals); take it to jita; and sell it all there. Probably get a little better price for it that way.

 

[VooDooAddict]

You know that's some good advice. Just have to justify the money though... new baby, lots of bills coming due right now...maybe i'll just cut out beer

That depends on the Beer. Some is nearly as cheap as water... well tastes that way anyhow.

I just avoid WOOT.com and the AT Hot Deals forums if I'm doubling up on subscriptions... I save money really fast that way.


OPPS this was supposed to all be in one post. Sorry for the double.

 

[ichy]

If anyone here who's returning to the game would be interested in doing some nul-sec ratting with me send me a message in-game (my char. is called Alice Houlahan.)

 

[v8envy]

Inventory management can be solved by downloading EveHQ. Just enter your API key and it'll download everything you own. You can then search and browse out of game, and even get a fairly good guestimate of what your crap is worth.

New baby is going to make playing the unmentionable rather hard. Thankfully eve is rather afk-able and ignore-able while still making progress. Do it. You know you want to.

I'm working on a plan for consequence-less empire PvP available to any battleship pilot. I'll provide wardecs and pre-fit (mostly t1) Abaddons, Ravens or Megathrons for precisely insurance payout to anyone joining up to shoot failfit empire POSes (plus any defenders that show up). If the income from POS module drops is good I might even be able to distribute cash. That, and a perpetual corporate hulkageddon with prizes for various achievements should keep me and anyone swinging through my corp(s) entertained.

 

[ichy]

I just discovered a rather obnoxious way to get some PvP kills. Ninja salvage & steal people's loot, and if they start shooting at you come back in a PvP ship and blow them to bits. Fun stuff, but I feel only slightly less evil than the Hulkaggedon guys.

 

[TheVrolok]

I just discovered a rather obnoxious way to get some PvP kills. Ninja salvage & steal people's loot, and if they start shooting at you come back in a PvP ship and blow them to bits. Fun stuff, but I feel only slightly less evil than the Hulkaggedon guys.

Pretty standard there, if you really want to irritate people just go salv their wrecks while they mission in high sec. They can't even shoot you.

 

[Martimus]

I just discovered a rather obnoxious way to get some PvP kills. Ninja salvage & steal people's loot, and if they start shooting at you come back in a PvP ship and blow them to bits. Fun stuff, but I feel only slightly less evil than the Hulkaggedon guys.

Just watch out for the Domi's. Even a mission fit Domi can kill most cruiser sized ships and below.

edit: Find a low sec area near a market hub, and hunt there. You can usually find some kills in those areas.