EVE!

[Acanthus]

You know, since I have been a Pirate for more than a year now, I can't remember what it was like before I was a Pirate.

Is there anyone here that is not a Pirate? If so, what sorts of things do you do in the game for fun?

Is there a large non-pirate community in the game? It seems to me that the pirates are the largest player base, but at the same time I live in low-sec. I usually end up shooting at other pirates, but maybe in high sec or null sec there is a higher percentage of people who rarely PvP.

There are more players in high sec and null sec, period.

Low sec has the lowest population density by far.

It is something like 55% empire, 15% low, 35% null

 

[ichy]

Martimus:

I've gone through different stages. Before the last time I quit I did a lot of ninja-salvaging. The nice thing about that is that when I'd steal people's loot they'd occasionally start shooting at me, which gave me the opportunity to grab a PvP ship and come back to blow them up. I've done mission running in the past, as well as 0.0 ratting. I tried to dabble in low-sec piracy, but finding people was just a huge pain in the ass. I pondered starting a second account so I could have a probe ship and a PvP ship operating together, but I decided I didn't care about EVE that much.

 

[Martimus]

Martimus:

I've gone through different stages. Before the last time I quit I did a lot of ninja-salvaging. The nice thing about that is that when I'd steal people's loot they'd occasionally start shooting at me, which gave me the opportunity to grab a PvP ship and come back to blow them up. I've done mission running in the past, as well as 0.0 ratting. I tried to dabble in low-sec piracy, but finding people was just a huge pain in the ass. I pondered starting a second account so I could have a probe ship and a PvP ship operating together, but I decided I didn't care about EVE that much.

Lol. That is exactly what I do. I have a second account with maxed out probing skills, and faction probing equipment to find targets quickly. I have learned all sorts of tricks to lower the probability of getting caught before you can gank them, just through experience. I find the hunt fun, even if the actual fight is often anti-climatic (They often don't even shoot back )

Although finding a roaming fleet and intercepting them is pretty fun. Then you know they will shoot back, and may even drop a few carriers on you.

 

[ichy]

Now I'm getting tempted...

Ninja-salvaging has made me pretty good at probing, so I might start a second trial account and give probe-pirating a shot.

Edit: Out of curiousity what sort of ships do you use?

 

[Martimus]

Now I'm getting tempted...

Ninja-salvaging has made me pretty good at probing, so I might start a second trial account and give probe-pirating a shot.

Edit: Out of curiousity what sort of ships do you use?

I use a standard Covert Ops ship to probe (buzzard, helios, anathema, probe). It has a 10% per level bonus to probe strength. Add the 50% bonus from that to the 50% bonus from Astrometric Rangefinding, and I have a 100% bonus to probe strength. The faction probes and probe launcher add another ~20%. (These numbers are off the top of my head, the bonuses may be off)

 

[Saga]

You know, since I have been a Pirate for more than a year now, I can't remember what it was like before I was a Pirate.

Is there anyone here that is not a Pirate? If so, what sorts of things do you do in the game for fun?

Is there a large non-pirate community in the game? It seems to me that the pirates are the largest player base, but at the same time I live in low-sec. I usually end up shooting at other pirates, but maybe in high sec or null sec there is a higher percentage of people who rarely PvP.

I'm not a pirate and EVE online makes me $700/m.

 

[Acanthus]

salvaging is just terrible money.

I have stopped doing it entirely on non-player ships.

And since they nerfed the mission loot ive stopped looting too.

When ninja salvagers show up now i just abandon all of my wrecks so they can loot them without getting kill rights lol.

 

[Acanthus]

I'm not a pirate and EVE online makes me $700/m.

Macro mining is bad, mmkay?

 

[Eckstein]

Well I quit over a month ago. It simply got too time consuming and it started to bore me to be honest.

The problem is that it comes almost always comes down to the question which side owns the most ISKs and playtime. There is simply no way to improve your gameplay skills after a certain point. Just like with WoW and most other MMOs.

 

[ichy]

I agree that EVE is a timesuck, but it's complex enough that it seems like there's always something new to learn or master.

My biggest annoyance is that they no longer allow skills to keep training. I've taken several EVE breaks, and it was nice that you could train a really long skill while your account was inactive. Having something all trained up was a good incentive to come back to the game after a while.

 

[KaOTiK]

You know, since I have been a Pirate for more than a year now, I can't remember what it was like before I was a Pirate.

Is there anyone here that is not a Pirate? If so, what sorts of things do you do in the game for fun?

Is there a large non-pirate community in the game? It seems to me that the pirates are the largest player base, but at the same time I live in low-sec. I usually end up shooting at other pirates, but maybe in high sec or null sec there is a higher percentage of people who rarely PvP.

Not a pirate here. I live out in null and love it.

I find fun in lots of things that many others might not though.

I like doing some ratting, normally 2-3 of us from the corp gang up and blow through sanctums and whatever plexes we find in our systems and make a good deal of isk that way.

We do lots of roams with the alliance to defend our space and cause trouble in others

I do a good amount of trading as well. Buying stuff that is abundant and cheap in null that sells for a good bit more in high sec, and vice versa.

We have one system that is pretty much our main supply line connecting to empire so that system ALWAYS has action and we usually have 1-3 war decs going on at any given time as well.

I personally love the covert cyno hot drops, especially on a group of hulks with light protection with them

I really enjoy making isk though so I do a lot of ratting and trading overall. I do a lot of pvp stuff but play mainly support roles (Damnation or Guardian mostly).

 

[ichy]

I do a good amount of trading as well. Buying stuff that is abundant and cheap in null that sells for a good bit more in high sec, and vice versa.

Any particular items you've had the most luck with?

 

[Saga]

Macro mining is bad, mmkay?

Quite the opposite, it sees me putting a ridiculous amount of money into savings when the average person is living paycheck to paycheck.

I make 25billion Isk a month, and have for almost two years straight. After dicking around with Titans and MoM's, 0.0 Outposts and running around in a new gank officer equipped Rorqual every couple of days, I turned it into something real. It bought me a ZR1 outright.

 

[KaOTiK]

Any particular items you've had the most luck with?

salvage seems to be the best

Since a lot of plexer's/ratters don't want to head all the way up to hi sec trading hubs they just sell it at whichever station(s) they are closes too. A lot of modules though tend to sell for close too or in a lot of cases above empire cost though (I've found very few here and there that seem to sell for less).

So I just buy lots of various salvage and load it all up in my covert/nullifer legion once or so a month for some big profit

 

[ichy]

salvage seems to be the best

Since a lot of plexer's/ratters don't want to head all the way up to hi sec trading hubs they just sell it at whichever station(s) they are closes too. A lot of modules though tend to sell for close too or in a lot of cases above empire cost though (I've found very few here and there that seem to sell for less).

So I just buy lots of various salvage and load it all up in my covert/nullifer legion once or so a month for some big profit

Interesting, thank you for the advice.

 

[Martimus]

Not a pirate here. I live out in null and love it.

I find fun in lots of things that many others might not though.

I like doing some ratting, normally 2-3 of us from the corp gang up and blow through sanctums and whatever plexes we find in our systems and make a good deal of isk that way.

We do lots of roams with the alliance to defend our space and cause trouble in others

I do a good amount of trading as well. Buying stuff that is abundant and cheap in null that sells for a good bit more in high sec, and vice versa.

We have one system that is pretty much our main supply line connecting to empire so that system ALWAYS has action and we usually have 1-3 war decs going on at any given time as well.

I personally love the covert cyno hot drops, especially on a group of hulks with light protection with them

I really enjoy making isk though so I do a lot of ratting and trading overall. I do a lot of pvp stuff but play mainly support roles (Damnation or Guardian mostly).

Sounds like you have fun. Although some of what you describe sounds like pirating to me. (especially dropping a covert cyno on hulks, and raiding neighboring systems.)

 

[KaOTiK]

Sounds like you have fun. Although some of what you describe sounds like pirating to me. (especially dropping a covert cyno on hulks, and raiding neighboring systems.)

I think the biggest difference from it being pirating is, we are targeting people we constantly have war decs with (they may expire and technically not have a dec up but there is that feud between the alliances still). So it is only really done on war target supply lines. We don't really bother with others that leave us alone mostly either. So it is sorta like war all the time without it having to be official

Either way, yeah, I have lots of fun. It is nice in null, cause the space is actually yours so it makes you more involved with it.

 

[KaOTiK]

Interesting, thank you for the advice.

np, just remember each area can be vastly different in the market as well due to tons of factors. Takes a bit of research sometimes, but if your willing too there is good profit to be made for little work on your side once the research is done.

 

[Acanthus]

Quite the opposite, it sees me putting a ridiculous amount of money into savings when the average person is living paycheck to paycheck.

I make 25billion Isk a month, and have for almost two years straight. After dicking around with Titans and MoM's, 0.0 Outposts and running around in a new gank officer equipped Rorqual every couple of days, I turned it into something real. It bought me a ZR1 outright.

Has jihadswarm hit you yet?

I have also heard hulkageddon 3 is brewing over at CCP.

 

[ichy]

I have also heard hulkageddon 3 is brewing over at CCP.

Sweet!

I've got enough security status to spare that I definitely want to participate in the next one. Need to learn a few things about suicide ganking first though.

 

[Saga]

Has jihadswarm hit you yet?

I have also heard hulkageddon 3 is brewing over at CCP.

Never lost a single miner. Probably because I do everything with 14 accounts in highly regulated 0.0.

Hulkageddon, etc.. none of that pansy empire based retard-macro garbage will ever effect me.

It's like Christmas when I login once a week or so to see my macro battleship+logistics defense team has killed and looted a nice officer item. That alone nets me anywhere from 2-20billion extra ISK a month. My average haul is approximately $822/m for 18 months straight. And that is pure profit after buying GTC's to pay for the accounts, logistics to get minerals to empire, etc (also considering I always keep around 150B-200B liquid isk at all times for Alliance-related whatever).. All in all I'm quite satisfied with EVE being my second job that I don't have to do shit at.

 

[Fallen Kell]

Cool, thanks, I'm going through the learning skills right now.

Edit - I was going down the certificate route for Minmitar (sp?) military soldier, but I'll hold off on that until I'm done with the learning skills.

From what I have been learning... certificates are really just something there to give you an idea. Don't put a ton of stock in them, as some of them have ridiculous requirements which are pointless additions. For instance, do you really need level 5 armor hardeners for EVERY type, when your ships/race may already have 65% protection in one of those areas, so why in the world do you need to waste all that extra time getting an extra couple % bonus when there are items which add a 50% bonus to your hardening in that area? That is just once case, there are plenty of others that you will see.

I will put a big, "I am a noob" sign on my posts since I have only been playing for a week and a half, but even I can see that a lot of those certs are just ways to add a time sink in the game. Some skills are important, others not so much depending on what you want to do. I mean, if you want to join a corp in the low sec areas which might not have much manufacturing and research, it will really suck for you if you invested to level 5 in all those skills and you are more than a bunch of jumps from the closest research/manufacturer center (even with the networking skills). Which means those were all just wasted skill points unless you can use them.

I have two characters at the moment, one that I trained up enough to do some basic mining (want to go a little more with him), the other I am making for a pilot. I don't know what race ships I want to use yet for the pilot, but I have about 18-20 days to figure that out since I am training the learning stuff first on him while I mine with the other guy in the meantime.

 

[Fallen Kell]

Anyone know if there is an "Anandtech" Corp where a lot of you guys are members?

 

[Martimus]

Anyone know if there is an "Anandtech" Corp where a lot of you guys are members?

My corp, "Diplomatic Disruption" has about a half dozen AT members. I am actually a director now, so I guess I can let you in if you want to join. We are primarily a PvP corp though. Michael is the CEO, and he posts on here quite often. If you are interested in joining, my ingame name is "Martimus28", and Michaels name is "Myrdin Potter".

There use to be a carbear corp that had a bunch of members as well, but most of those members have quit the game I think. (Which is kind of what my post earlier was about. It seems that those who spend most of their time doing carebear activities get bored and quit, while those that spend most of their time PvPing don't seem to leave because of boredom. I was wondering what those of you that don't PvP do that keeps your interest for the long haul?)

 

[Fallen Kell]

Well, as I said, I am still very new to it. Been reading as much as I can as fast as I can (and as I said in my previous posts, I am not even sure what race ships I want to use, for my pilot character, I picked Amarr for the race, but at this point in his career, it is only like 2 days worth of training to go for any particular ship). My other character which I got some basic training up for some mining would get powned in PvP, and he needs a little more training still before he can be a decent caldari miner (but is set to go either barge or BS mining, but is really at that crossroads) mining 4 (maybe 5), astrogeology 4 (so if mining 5 was a pre-req...), industry 4, the low level learning skills to 4 each (except the one for charisma), and then some active/passive shield tanking skills (basic certs for AST/PST and armor tanking), and then some basic pilot skills (nav, evasive, warp, mostly to level 3), and finally a few levels of rockets, standard missiles, missile ops, and a crap load of engineering things like electronics 5, electric grid upgrades, cap upgrades, etc., to let me fit more mining lasers on the boat at once. I can training cruisers or barges at the moment, just been focusing on starting the PvP pilot character.