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[Michael]

If you are using more than 1 character at a time, you probably should divide the isk/hour. So if you're looting/salvaging with one alt while the other tanks and kills and you can get 50M per hour, you;re really getting 25M per character. Salvaging just takes a lot of time. Even with 4 tractors and 4 salvagers going at once.

That said, it is consistent and pretty much risk free isk.

Michael

 

[TheVrolok]

If you are using more than 1 character at a time, you probably should divide the isk/hour. So if you're looting/salvaging with one alt while the other tanks and kills and you can get 50M per hour, you;re really getting 25M per character. Salvaging just takes a lot of time. Even with 4 tractors and 4 salvagers going at once.

That said, it is consistent and pretty much risk free isk.

Michael

Yeah, I guess I could split it, but I definitely salvage pretty quickly. Usually go 6 salvagers, and 2 tractors. Essentially, I AB toward something, tractor it as soon as I'm in range, head to the second wreck, tractor it, and then head to a third. While I'm heading to the third I the first usually comes within range to salvage. Then it finishes salvaging before I hit the third, so I chain salv/tractor like this. I usually finish salving far faster than my main finishes the mission.

I know back when I missioned I was making enough to pay for my 2 accounts (so that's what, 460m ish) and still make a good amount of isk per month missioning only a few hours on the weekends. I really don't know the numbers, but maybe I'll go back and try it again sometime. However, it seems that FW TLF missions may be quite a bit more lucrative/hour. I'll report back when I get bored enough to mission.

 

[Martimus]

I thought I might get 100 kills in a month for the first time this month. I had 85 as of the 24th, and figured I only needed 15 kills in a week which shouldn't be hard at all. Of course, I haven't had time to play the last 3 days, so I haven't gotten a single kill. Looks like I won't make it to 100 this month.

I am actually surprised that I got to 85 this month. I am pretty sure that I haven't played more than 3 hours on any day. Plus I can't think of any particular day where I got a lot of kills. (I think I got 20-30 kills on a single roam in January, where I don't think I got even as many as 10 kills in any roam this month.) I guess I have been more consistent in getting a 3-5 kills a day versus getting a lot at once.

 

[ichy]

For those talking about risk free ways to make isk, IMO ninja-salvaging is still a better way to go about it than running missions. The recent changes have made it less lucrative but you can still make several million isk with only a few minutes of effort if you know what systems to look in. It's also good practice for probing, a skill that gets much more useful out in low and null-sec. If you're really lucky a carebear will start shooting at you out of frustration, in which case you can run home, grab a PvP equipped ship and gank him

 

[SunnyD]

I got the free 5 day reinvite a couple weeks back. It's about to expire... and oddly, I have no desire to use it just to see how many datacores I have now.

 

[Martimus]

I thought I might get 100 kills in a month for the first time this month. I had 85 as of the 24th, and figured I only needed 15 kills in a week which shouldn't be hard at all.

I didn't make it. I ended up with 94 kills for July. I just had too many things to do this last week and didn't get much chance to play.

I did finally force a fight with the ex-ETG gate camper. They had 18 camping the same gate again, and this time we were waiting on their escape route gate. We had 13 (3 logistics, 10 DPS) but were confident that we would slaughter them anyway. We brought in a falcon to get a good warp in (they were 90AU away from the nearest gate though, so he was going to point our prime target.) However, they noticed that he was in local and ran before he got the warp in.

Luckily the majority ran to the gate we were at. We ended up killing 3 of them, and the rest managed to get away.

http://nawti.evekb.co.uk/?a=kill_related&kll_id=1532032

On the way back we came across a Pilgrim ratting. I think he thought he was cloaked.

http://nawti.evekb.co.uk/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1532049

What was funny was his bio. It read, "I am tired of being hunted down by pirates in low-sec. Now it is time to do something about it." Not really sure what he was planning on doing about it, but if his plan was "die" then he accomplished that goal.

 

[Michael]

That is an issue we have near where we live. The other groups that live near us are so scared that they run and dock the instant they see us in local. Sometimes we need to go further away to find a good fight. Like this, for example:

http://nawti.evekb.co.uk/?a=kill_related&kll_id=1531790

Killboards are funny. From our KB, it looks great. From theirs, a different story:

http://www.rooksandkings.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13889

And neither tells the whole story - we actually made them break and run.

Myrdin

 

[JSt0rm]

hey guys. So I'm getting ready for my remap into ship missile gunnery skills. I'm wondering if I am missing anything show stopping.

http://eveboard.com/pilot/filterdecay

I plan on training up
shield and armor comp skills up to 4
thermodynamics up to 4
energy pulse weapons to 4
nanite skills to 4 (both of them I forget their names)
acceleration control to 4
propulsion jamming to 4
I'm taking shield compensation to 4 and then 5 now

I was thinking about leaving energy grid upgrades at 4 Do you think its worth taking it to 5 now?

After I max my per/will I am going to max my missile skills and battlecruiser and then max battleship caldari then cross train into minmatar/guns

I'm building up a alt now for trade and freight and covops on a second account. Hes still a month away from cooking his learning skills.

 

[Acanthus]

Anyone know of a place i can sell off my account?

Gametag gave me an offer but is taking too long to process.

I'm done with the game and want to recoup some of my lost monthly fees.

 

[ichy]

After a week of sitting around in my expensive-implant clone in high sec it's time to head back to low-sec either this evening or tomorrow. I did a bit of ninja-salvaging to earn some extra isk, but in general life in empire space is boooring.

I also put together a Blackbird and put some more training time into ECM skills. Jamming ships seem to be popular for small gangs, and I'm hoping the ability to bring a Blackbird to a fight will make me more useful to my corp.

 

[HeXploiT]

Haven't had the op to play much this week as I'm working 12hr days but last week before I went to work I found a snowball launcher and some melted snowballs in my inventory 9 jumps away. I flew to that location and tried them out but of course it didn't work because the snowballs were melted. No snowballs on the market. Oh well. I've been skimping and saving for a buzzard or other covert ops ship and currently had 6,000,000isk. Well before I went ofline I created a contract and put the snowball launcher up for 50,000,000isk. I'll be damned if some poor joe didn't buy it. Woot! I now have 56,000,000isk. May not seem like much to some of you but I just saved myself a lot of work.

 

[JSt0rm]

Now that you have 50 million, will it work for you or will you continue to work for it

 

[Fallen Kell]

Now that you have 50 million, will it work for you or will you continue to work for it

That is the key. You should be able to get that 50 million to make you more isk by trading on the market. Do some quick market research in a few different regions of space. There are usually plenty of differences in price of basic common goods (like ammo) between even regions right next to each other. I found a few that I am making 50% back on my investment for just making 4 jumps... Now it isn't super high volume, but should easily make 5-10mill a week for doing next to nothing at your investment level.

 

[Martimus]

I killed a Maurader for the first time last night. Michael could tell you the whole story, as I was only involved at the tail end of the fight. The way I understood it, the Golem jumped in, got pointed, had his friends jump in and keep the small camp jammed while he fought them. The plan worked well for about a minute.

The issue is we had a 15 man roaming fleet that was literally 2 jumps away when this happened. So we saw what was happening in intel, entered system, warped to him, and popped him long before he had time to disengage and jump back to high sec. (My drones barely had time to get on the kill before he popped, and I was using warriors.) He lost 1.1B in total.

Later that night, he came back in a Drake, along with one of his friends (also a Drake), and I popped both of them as well. One Drake lit a cyno, but he popped before the carrier could jump (or the carrier pilot wasn't dumb enough to jump in at the gate.)

I am putting up my first POS tonight. Any quick suggestions for POS guides I should read?
Any suggestions for a mining fit on a Medium Gallente Tower? (Right now I have 2 silos, one miner, and the tower. I have a simple reaction module as well.)

 

[ichy]

Wow, that sounds like a painful loss. What in the world was a Marauder doing in low-sec anyways? The only place I ever see them is in high-sec missioning systems.

BTW, any suggestions on how to fit a relatively cheap blackbird? So far I've been told to always go with racial jammers over multispectral, and that meta 3 or 4 tech 1 jammers are a better way to go than tech 2.

 

[JSt0rm]

Wow, that sounds like a painful loss. What in the world was a Marauder doing in low-sec anyways? The only place I ever see them is in high-sec missioning systems.

BTW, any suggestions on how to fit a relatively cheap blackbird? So far I've been told to always go with racial jammers over multispectral, and that meta 3 or 4 tech 1 jammers are a better way to go than tech 2.

tank the shit out of it because you will be primary.

 

[Martimus]

tank the shit out of it because you will be primary.

True. I greatly prefer Scorpions, Falcons, or Rooks over a Blackbird. Scorpions are the best of the three for normal operation, but the Falcon can cloak and act as scout.

The Scorp isn't that expensive, and can be insured, so I would suggest that route. The blackbird can't tank gateguns well, and you will likely have to jam someone who isn't flashy at some point. I rarely see them except in fleets where they will only shoot outlaws.

I wish I could give you a good fit, but unfortunately I have never flown ECM ships. We have quite a few Caldari pilots in the alliance though, so you may want to just throw the question into alliance chat, and I am sure you will get a few good fits.

 

[Ross Ridge]

I am putting up my first POS tonight. Any quick suggestions for POS guides I should read?

One good suggestion I read on the EVE forums was to play around with your starbase setups on the test server. Pretty much everything is available for 100 ISK there.

 

[ichy]

Got my first mining barge kill last night. I was checking out what I could find inside a wormhole that I'd gone into, and managed to probe the barge down. The guy must have been AFK, because there wasn't even an attempt to get away when I warped to him. Oh well, got a few million isk worth of loot and a mining barge kill-mail.

 

[Martimus]

Got my first mining barge kill last night. I was checking out what I could find inside a wormhole that I'd gone into, and managed to probe the barge down. The guy must have been AFK, because there wasn't even an attempt to get away when I warped to him. Oh well, got a few million isk worth of loot and a mining barge kill-mail.

That is awesome. My first mining barge kill was also in a wormhole. In fact I think all of my mining barge kills have been in wormholes.

 

[v8envy]

Wow, that sounds like a painful loss. What in the world was a Marauder doing in low-sec anyways? The only place I ever see them is in high-sec missioning systems.

BTW, any suggestions on how to fit a relatively cheap blackbird? So far I've been told to always go with racial jammers over multispectral, and that meta 3 or 4 tech 1 jammers are a better way to go than tech 2.

You're on the right track. Fit racial modules, fill all lows with the ECM amps (forget their names), then fit a mwd or LSE depending on how you think you'll be fighting. An extra 3k ehp goes a long way on a BB (especially if you can swing remote shield transfer), but on the other hand if you have gang membrs with tracking disruptors a MWD is even more valuable. Cloaks are v. bad (ECM is your tank, and you need to lock fast to use it), and your DPS will be laughable no matter what you do.

Either way, don't necessarily expect to come out of any scrap alive -- that's just a bonus. Your job is to lock early and jam hard and hope you don't die until your buddy in the scorp finishes locking and starts his jamfest.

 

[ichy]

That is awesome. My first mining barge kill was also in a wormhole. In fact I think all of my mining barge kills have been in wormholes.

Thanks. I didn't even go into that wormhole looking to PvP (I didn't realize that profitable PvE in a wormhole really requires multiple ships) but my probes found a barge sitting there all on its own so I figured I'd snag it.

Re: blackbirds, I'd been told that they're basically disposable ECM ships. Fine with me since I can assemble one for very little isk, and from what I understand even a cheaply fit one should be able to permajam at least one battleship.

 

[TheVrolok]

Re: blackbirds, I'd been told that they're basically disposable ECM ships. Fine with me since I can assemble one for very little isk, and from what I understand even a cheaply fit one should be able to permajam at least one battleship.

I think the one I occasionally use when I feel like ECMing is around a 9-11m loss. It's a great risk/reward payout.

 

[Martimus]

One good suggestion I read on the EVE forums was to play around with your starbase setups on the test server. Pretty much everything is available for 100 ISK there.

It is up and running now. My current setup should net ~20M ISK a week (if I calculated correctly). My planned final setup should net ~150M ISK a week. Before I get into that setup, I want to get used to mining and reactions on a small scale. Once I have that down, I will put up the second tower, and start my complex reaction.

I am hoping to use this ISK to pay for my entry into capital ships, since they are on the horizon for me now.

 

[HybridSquirrel]

Wow, that sounds like a painful loss. What in the world was a Marauder doing in low-sec anyways? The only place I ever see them is in high-sec missioning systems.

we think he was missioning down there, he also lost a caldari navy scorpion to us at 1 point a while back i think. and since losing his golem, we have killed off 2 of his drakes because he keeps coming back for more.