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blipblop

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how many players are usually on at a certain time? sorry for all the questions, just making sure that it's a right fit. I've done so much 0.0 BS such as POSes, 1200 ship clusterfucks, and just random BS.
 

Martimus

Diamond Member
Apr 24, 2007
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how many players are usually on at a certain time? sorry for all the questions, just making sure that it's a right fit. I've done so much 0.0 BS such as POSes, 1200 ship clusterfucks, and just random BS.

It depends. We usually have around 50 people online at a time in the alliance, and I usually get around 15-25 of them to join me at any time to go blow up stuff. Participation isn't lacking at the moment at all.
 

Martimus

Diamond Member
Apr 24, 2007
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Last night was interesting. The second I logged on, a WH was reported about 8 jumps away with a Tengu, Loki, and Rupture without an active tower in it. I helped the person reporting it put together a fleet, and rushed my scout pilot to the system. While I was probing them out, one of the people coming to the WH got caught by a Pilgrim. He was talking over comms and was helped by another pilot coming to the WH and they killed the Pilgrim (http://nawti.evekb.co.uk/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1543654), but during this the Tengu and Loki both warped from their plex to the WH.

In the confusion of two fights going on, the Tengu jumped back into the WH, and no-one followed to hold him there, and the Loki managed to warp off. I was a little disappointed, but I probed out the Rupture, and we got some nice sleeper loot from him (http://nawti.evekb.co.uk/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1543656)

Next, I heard there was a 5-6 man gate camp in Ami, so we regrouped and started heading that way to get some more kills. On the way there, my scout saw a Rattlesnake in space! I got everyone together, and we left immediately. I was watching the Rattlesnake on the Fensi gate in Ami, while I had a scout in Fensi on the other side (or so I thought). Once we jumped into Fensi, and warped to the Ami gate, there were about 6-8 ships there, mostly BSes. I started calling targets, and we killed a Cerberus, and Maelstrom, (http://nawti.evekb.co.uk/?a=kill_related&kll_id=1543925) and almost killed a couple more but suddenly someone came on our comms and asked us to stop shooting. It turned out that a blue and neutral fleet were working together to kill that Rattlesnake, and we were starting to kill the neutral fleet. What suprised me was that they let him go (I was watching him with my covert ops the whole time, and they had two people who had him pointed on the other side of the gate before disengaging and coming to our side.) It made no sense whatsoever, but I won't go into it anymore.

After that, I had us warp to a safespot off a highly used high-sec gate to wait off GCC, and kill anything that comes through it if we were lucky. My GCC ended (I was logistics, so I had the longest GCC timer), and I had everyone align back toward home. Just as I was about to tell the Wing Commander to warp us, I saw a Golem land on the gate in Highsec. I screamed for everyone to turn around and warp to the high-sec gate. He jumped just as we landed
http://nawti.evekb.co.uk/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1543929

That was an easy 365M ISK

After we had gotten home, I found an alliance member with a jump freighter to transport POS fuel for me to my large POS. While that was happening, a neutral Harbinger was reported to have docked in our station. I was 5 jumps away, but we had 1 person undock with him. He engaged, and two more undocked and finished the job. He had a PLEX card in his cargo hold, and it DROPPED! Another easy 300M ISK.

http://nawti.evekb.co.uk/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1544007
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
Dec 11, 2000
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After we had gotten home, I found an alliance member with a jump freighter to transport POS fuel for me to my large POS. While that was happening, a neutral Harbinger was reported to have docked in our station. I was 5 jumps away, but we had 1 person undock with him. He engaged, and two more undocked and finished the job. He had a PLEX card in his cargo hold, and it DROPPED! Another easy 300M ISK.

http://nawti.evekb.co.uk/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1544007

I have no fucking clue why people are transporting PLEXs. I was surprised they even added that functionality to game .. I suppose so idiots like this could lose easy money? Mind blowing ..
 

v8envy

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Sep 7, 2002
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And that guy panicked -- I think you can apply a PLEX from your cargohold even in space. Worst case he'd just have had more gametime rather than dropping it. Then again, engaging on station solo in lowsec -- the guy wasn't the sharpest hammer in the toolbox.

I still can't get over why people are dogpiling into lowsec in such expensive mission grinding gear. How can shaving 5-10 minutes off your L4 time (in theory, in practice you attract so much attention that you'll NEVER finish) be worth placing a bil+ at risk? T1 fit drake blobs, sure. T3 cruisers, faction and T2 BS? What is WRONG with these people.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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buhahahahah.... oh man I love my gf but I wish I was there.

The plex market is on a rebound. Maybe wait a week and sell it. Move it to jita though
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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And that guy panicked -- I think you can apply a PLEX from your cargohold even in space. Worst case he'd just have had more gametime rather than dropping it. Then again, engaging on station solo in lowsec -- the guy wasn't the sharpest hammer in the toolbox.

I still can't get over why people are dogpiling into lowsec in such expensive mission grinding gear. How can shaving 5-10 minutes off your L4 time (in theory, in practice you attract so much attention that you'll NEVER finish) be worth placing a bil+ at risk? T1 fit drake blobs, sure. T3 cruisers, faction and T2 BS? What is WRONG with these people.

the reason is they never pvp. They think a super twinked out fit is gonna save them and help them pvp better. Fools rush in.
 

Lonbjerg

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Dec 6, 2009
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And that guy panicked -- I think you can apply a PLEX from your cargohold even in space. Worst case he'd just have had more gametime rather than dropping it. Then again, engaging on station solo in lowsec -- the guy wasn't the sharpest hammer in the toolbox.

I still can't get over why people are dogpiling into lowsec in such expensive mission grinding gear. How can shaving 5-10 minutes off your L4 time (in theory, in practice you attract so much attention that you'll NEVER finish) be worth placing a bil+ at risk? T1 fit drake blobs, sure. T3 cruisers, faction and T2 BS? What is WRONG with these people.

AFAIK you can only apply PLEX when docked in station, not in the ship. as this Dev Blogs tells:
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=776
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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so I've been dicking around nullsec in my jump clone to grind my sec status after our antem defense the other night - we popped 5 of them and didn't lose any in the engagement. I ended up jumping my drake into a system with a russian camp right on me and a warp bubble set up.

I'm sitting there cloaked and decided of course to burn back to the gate so I align to the gate turn on my invuln/dc/mwd and haul ass. they pounded on my shield but couldnt get through. They finally got a web on me at 3km but it was to late I was able to coast home.

When I jumped to the other side they had already jumped through and had a bubble up for me. There was only 1 guy there. I knew there was no point burning back to the gate so I aligned to a npc station and hit my mwd. I ended up pointed but not webbed and for some reason they didnt have proper tackle so I ended up hitting 1001m/s and was pulling away from the cane that was disrupting my warp.

I got to 20km and hit warp but he had a tech2 version so I knew I needed to get to 24km. By then they were all warping in but they were 50km from me and needed to deal with their own warp bubble. I got to 24km and hit dock and boom I slide away. i gave them a o7 in local and docked up.

To me thats fun and things like that help you learn how to keep your cool in tight situations. Yeah I could of lost my ship if they had the proper tackle but the point is they didnt and i didnt freak I just went through the proper motions to get out of the situation and lived.
 

ichy

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Oct 5, 2006
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Had a very satisfying engagement earlier this afternoon. I was going through low-sec in my probe equipped Drake looking for some solo PvP fun. I jump through into Zayi and spot a Hurricane waiting on the other side of the gate. I decloak and head towards him and he begins shooting first. Hurricane vs. Drake is normally a pretty fair fight, but he had the gate guns on him which gave me a huge advantage.

I'm wearing him down pretty quickly when someone else pops up in local. It's one of his corp mates, but by this time we're both webbed and scrambled and can't go through the gate so I know I need to win the fight or die. His corp-mate's Typhoon shows up, but soon afterwards I pop the Hurricane.

http://nawti.evekb.co.uk/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1546874

Now it's a more even fight, with me and the gate guns against the Typhoon. Thankfully nobody else in their corp showed up, and I managed to pop the BS as well.

http://nawti.evekb.co.uk/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1546875

Very satisfying win.
 

ichy

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Oct 5, 2006
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Thanks. As pleased as I as with those kills I also need to remind myself that I got very lucky. The gate guns did about half the damage to both of the guys I killed, if they hadn't been foolish enough to engage me like they did I doubt I would've come out ahead. You have to make some pretty serious compromises to fit a probe launcher on a Drake, so I only had one BCS and no damage control unit.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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Thanks. As pleased as I as with those kills I also need to remind myself that I got very lucky. The gate guns did about half the damage to both of the guys I killed, if they hadn't been foolish enough to engage me like they did I doubt I would've come out ahead. You have to make some pretty serious compromises to fit a probe launcher on a Drake, so I only had one BCS and no damage control unit.

Yeah I had 2 guys try to engage me on a gate on my way back to antem from null, unfortunately my hull was full of null sec goodies and I didnt even have ammo with me lol. After your story I would of engaged them on the gate but I just warped off as I had like 5 rounds on my launchers left. hahaha.
 

ichy

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Heh, sounds like you were better off running. Part of the reason I didn't run from the Hurricane was that I knew I didn't have all that much at risk. An insured Drake with some Tech 2 gear isn't all that expensive, and I've got enough gear stockpiled in Antem that I don't even have to waste time flying back to high sec to re-equip a new ship if I lose one. The game is more fun if you're willing to take some risks, and if you lose a few extra internet spaceships does it really matter?
 

Martimus

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Apr 24, 2007
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Yeah I had 2 guys try to engage me on a gate on my way back to antem from null, unfortunately my hull was full of null sec goodies and I didnt even have ammo with me lol. After your story I would of engaged them on the gate but I just warped off as I had like 5 rounds on my launchers left. hahaha.

I have only spent about 2 weeks in null-sec during my time in Eve, and all of that was for PvP. I have never done any ratting or run any plexes in 0.0. Is it a really profitable endeavor?
 

Martimus

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Apr 24, 2007
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Thanks. As pleased as I as with those kills I also need to remind myself that I got very lucky. The gate guns did about half the damage to both of the guys I killed, if they hadn't been foolish enough to engage me like they did I doubt I would've come out ahead. You have to make some pretty serious compromises to fit a probe launcher on a Drake, so I only had one BCS and no damage control unit.

I was still very impressed by the results. Usually when I see results like what you had, the victims are horibbly fail fitted, or just did something really stupid. In this case, the cane probably should have waited until his friend was closer before engaging, but it still was quite the feat.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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I have only spent about 2 weeks in null-sec during my time in Eve, and all of that was for PvP. I have never done any ratting or run any plexes in 0.0. Is it a really profitable endeavor?

eh its ok. I go out there for sec status and I grab what I can. Nothing like a good trade or a profitable moon. I'm closer to lo sec and its not really deep in faction space so the bounties are as high. Deep faction then you start talking slave drops potentially worth 200mill
 

KaOTiK

Lifer
Feb 5, 2001
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I have only spent about 2 weeks in null-sec during my time in Eve, and all of that was for PvP. I have never done any ratting or run any plexes in 0.0. Is it a really profitable endeavor?


0.0 is great for isk. The pass 4 weekends I've made each weekend between 900m-1.4b isk. That was with between 2-3 corpmates with me. We would run plex's and chain anomalies till we got escalations for more plex's. Throw in some faction spawns and mostly good drops all around we all made out quite well, well enough that we been doing it each weekend since the first lol.
 

Lakedaimon

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when I played EVE yes I was a total 0.0 snob and couldnt care less about lowsec pirates.

But if you are just running missions in highsec or heaven forbid mining and you are looking to get more out of the game let me implore you to please join up with a legit PVP corp with Michael or some of the other pirates in this thread. A week or so "hunting humans" is more fun and rewarding than a year of year of shooting at the same npc rats or npc rocks. After my first killmail I lost pretty much all interest in PVE.

And trust me, you dont need to wait until you can fly some fancy tech 2 ship, or have 5s across the board - the "pvp skills" you learn are more valuable than any skillbook or implant. You can honestly make a difference in a t1 frigate or cruiser.
 

Michael

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Nov 19, 1999
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Decent 0.0 is very consistent for isk from ratting. Easy to get 25M isk / hour of casual ratting and that can spike nicely with faction drops. Once you get past the entry points, there are surprisingly large areas of 0.0 space will little to no traffic where you can rat in peace.

Plex running is a little harder becaquse it takes longer. That makes it more likely that someone will catch you.

Michael
 

v8envy

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And if you know the entry point campers' schedule, you can even get in safely. It's always good to have a second account with a disposable, untrained alt to take a peek ahead of you but so long as you're not hauling anything valuable you can get to where you're going with a T1 cloak more often than not.
 
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