Thats a good point. However I dont really run missions anymore. Ever since I found the land of milk and honey plus trading and pew pew wrecks I'm in a pretty good condition financially.
Look at the location of your agent.
I (running from Caldari space) get Guristas, Serpentis or Blood Raider mission.
I could pick a different agent (also in Caldari space) and get mostly missions against Gallente.
Perhaps you shold find a agent with a better location than your current?
Please dont lie. Why is it that so many people lie in EVE? I keep hearing how everyone makes 50-100m/hour missioning, but I personally tested this to be completely untrue.
1)Missions are extremely time consuming it takes several hours to tomplete a typical L4.
2)Missions are extremely hard, and most setups that people list dont actually work in practice. I flew a T2 Raven, and never had enough cap to do BOTH good damage and have my shield lasting permanantly. Some people run shields in bursts, but I found this to be way too stressful.
3)I trained up to a Golem and yet I still cant to missions. Cruises and Torps cant efficiently kill anyting smaller than a Battleship, and painters require too much training. I have good drone skills but they are very inefficient i nmission and they constantly die. The worst thing though is that the enemy in missions always manages to break my tank. I am using a good, popular fit, my skills are very high, with most maxed out, and yet my shield still gets broken, plus, it doesnt last! It runs out only i na few minutes forcing me to warp out.
I get about 20m in rewards for every 2-3 hour mission. The loot is complete and utter garbage most of the time. Not worth it at all imho. I may have gotten more if I was salvaging, but who has time for that?
I'm quite simply not lying, you're just wrong. Search this thread, I've actually basically said how I do it, and I've even refined the process since then. But as for your points:
1) Wrong in 2 ways. First, I don't do High Sec level 4's anymore, I make my money doing Faction Warfare level 4's. Faction Warfare level 4 missions can be done in 2-10 minutes per mission depending on the mission, and your skills for about 4m isk and 20k LP with decent social skills. Also, not even high sec level 4's take multiple hours, if it's taking you multiple hours, you're doing it wrong.
2) Again, you must be picking the wrong missions for fitting your ship incorrectly. When I did do high sec level 4's, I did then in a normal cruise Raven and had absolutely no problems with appropriate skills.
3) Honestly, the Golem is not a magic PvE money maker, and if I were still doing high sec lvl 4's or 5's, I would prefer a CNR with a dedicated salvaging ship. Also, your tank should not be breaking that easily.
My guess is that 1) you're not as skilled up as you think you are 2) you're choosing to do the lower yield missions when you should be doing the higher yield ones 3) your fits are not very good 4) you just haven't gotten the mission running tactics/tricks down yet. Do you read EVE Survival on a mission before doing it? Are you aggroing the right groups (or not aggroing the wrong ones?) Are you blitzing? Are you using the right ammo? etc.. etc..
In short, you're doing it wrong.
Please dont lie. Why is it that so many people lie in EVE? I keep hearing how everyone makes 50-100m/hour missioning, but I personally tested this to be completely untrue.
And with that, I MAX at 50m per hour. I ran Angels extravaganza and cleared 12m in bounties(I dont complete it till the last day due, for farming reasons), 5m in loot including salvage. +lp. I know I am doing it wrong. I just don't know how!
Both of my characters got about 1.2-1.3M Skill Points in the latest patch. I guess I didn't have as many skillpoints as I thought in learning skills. Still it will help out, and I am happy to not have to worry about learning skills ever again.
What's new with incursion? I still find myself constantly bored and haven't seen anything new my amarr hi-sec neighborhood with the new expansion.
I got back into the game again after a small hiatus. I'm a pro miner, or at least as pro as you can get in high sec (hulk, etc). The money isn't great, but it's consistant. I was thinking about making a second account and training the character up to Orca in order to expand my mining venture a bit. Anyways, I read recently that Hulkageddon is once again going to be in full force (tentative Feb?).
Well, I realize what that means and had to make a serious decision about what to do in the meantime, since mining isn't worth it in a "lesser" ship. I did some additional reading, and I came to the conclusion that there are many out there who consider miners like me "lesser" players, since we are kin to macro miners. Obviously we aren't bots, but to many there is no difference. Long story short, I read that there are many corporations who would happily pop my Orca if they heard about it, even in high sec, especially during hulkageddon which in my view is just organized griefing and pretty much guarantees that I can't play for the duration....at least without needlessly risking my large investment, since my profit margins are far lower than low sec.
What do you guys think about this? Do you think I'm overthinking it? People play eve for various reasons. Personally I play for the market aspect, which is a major advertised feature. If I can't even do that without having to deal with low sec hijinx, then idk.
Hulkageddon is designed to take out as many macro miners as possible. Often the offending parties announce their presence in local channels to give players time to clear out.
Hulkageddon is designed to take out as many macro miners as possible. Often the offending parties announce their presence in local channels to give players time to clear out.
I can't imagine that activities like this do anything to cultivate the desire for people like me to resubscribe. I love this game and respect it's player base, so I can see the interest in this sort of thing, but at the end of the day when someone tells me I am, for all purposes, locked out of the game for fear of dramatic financial ruin for most of a month then that's one month of fees CCP isn't getting. I don't envy that poor noob who doesn't keep himself aware that there is a storm coming lol.
There's also nothing keeping people from popping other ships in the area after they get the hulks since they are already on concorde's shit list at that point. Oh well, to each our own I guess. I've decided to hold off on the second account and cancel till march. Thanks for the info everyone.
Mine in an out of the way area, and keep an eye on local. If local suddenly jumps by a good number, warp out for a bit. These guys are going to go after easy targets in fairly crowded areas for the most part.
That's good advice and I appreciate it but I also don't want to look over my shoulder all day. You guys in 0.0 space have learned to cope with the constant threat of ganking but I'm spoiled to my casual grazing in 0.9 Anyways, the guys doing the hulk-ganking are the ones with 30-40 mil SP and lots of cool tech to keep me from enjoying my day. Unless I'm already aligned and ready to go at warp in I won't stand much of a chance. For me its better to bow out then to be forced to ragequit over losing my entire rig haha. Happy days
Is there usually a huge spike in ore prices after hulkageddon?