Originally posted by: Dell John B
Originally posted by: wired247
Originally posted by: Dell John B
I think it's HORRIBLE advice. Too often I come out on top in a fight with older players because they think SP and money is an "I win button". Knowing what your ship is capable of and being comfortable in a real throwdown are both worth MILLIONS of SP in their own right.
I know very well that having more SP than someone is not a win button. But do you really expect a 3 week old player to be a threat to anyone? I'm talking about training skills for a month. Not long at all in the scheme of eve.
Yes, I have seen a 3 week old actually be a threat. I can assure you that if a person starts out, reads what I linked, takes it to heart, and then goes out after 24 hours and just does it, within 3 weeks that character will be a TERROR.
I know, because I've seen it. Several times in fact.
The last time I saw it, I watched as a 2 week old player in a Punisher wiped out player after player in Tash-Murkon Prime, every single one of them being people far older than him who were there ratting or playing sentry duty to mining ops, and every single one of them being cruisers and battlecruisers. Edit: I was so impressed by his chutzpah I donated 10 mil to his wallet.
My girlfriend plays EVE too. When she started, she took the same advice I just gave, and was effectively pirating within a week and having a blast. She only has 10mil SP now, but I'd put my money on her against many players with 25mil+.
You can fit an effective pirate T1 frigate with 24 hours worth of training. Read what I linked. The people that do it are out there, they're younger than you in-game, and they're hunting you and salivating for your blood.
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Yeah, I was thinking about trying this out. My WoW guild essentially fell apart, and it's boring as hell single player. Hmm....
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
The only way that a 3 week old player shredded numerous cruisers/BCs is if the C/BC pilots were absolutely mentally handicapped and had absurdly bad ship fittings. Period. What you're claiming here about a 3 week old player being a "terror" is absolutely ridiculous. Can a 3 week old player be useful? Sure. A tackling frig is very useful to any fleet engagement.. but a solo pvp terror? That's laughable. Drop a few Warrior II's on the "3 week terror frig" and it's over. Well before he pops the BC. If he's smart enough.. and somehow outlasts the Warrior II's enough to kill all 5 of 'em.. there's no way he'll do enough damage to the BC before it simply flys away. Again.. unless the BC is hellabad fitted. There is no one in his right mind that would claim EVE is as noob friendly as being able to be a "3 week terror."
Now your gf with a 10 mil SP vs certain 25 mil SP characters.. that I can easily see. 10 mil SP is nothing to laugh at if you've had the proper direction during training. My gank BC was 600 dps/40k ehp or something like that at 5 mil SP. I could see your gf rolling around doing some damage.
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Add in waste factors for both refining your ore as well as manufacturing your ship, along with manufacturing slot rental fees... well... let's just say there's plenty of retrievers available in highsec space for 5.2m ISK (I bought mine for 4.9m if I recall). When it's all said and done, you're probably just about breaking even unless you have all level 5 manufacturing and refining skills. At best you're going to be saving yourself about 350,000isk.
Originally posted by: Malladine
I lost my Myrmidon while flying in 0.0 hunting rats. Damn Pilgrim snuck up on me I had him half armor, but with no ecm I couldn't escape. Next time I'll have a flight of ECM drones though, might be a different story then.
Dell John your posts are making me want to play EVE again on a daily basis
Originally posted by: FlasHBurN
Originally posted by: Beev
Ok, I think I'm going to re-sub tonight. Is there an AT corporation I should join? Not looking for any handouts, just somewhere social to be
I asked the same thing earlier, no response. I'm looking for the same thing as you.
Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
Originally posted by: FlasHBurN
Originally posted by: Beev
Ok, I think I'm going to re-sub tonight. Is there an AT corporation I should join? Not looking for any handouts, just somewhere social to be
I asked the same thing earlier, no response. I'm looking for the same thing as you.
Yeah, haven't found any ATers to play with, but I suppose I want to be capable of defending myself first
Originally posted by: JRich
Originally posted by: Malladine
I lost my Myrmidon while flying in 0.0 hunting rats. Damn Pilgrim snuck up on me I had him half armor, but with no ecm I couldn't escape. Next time I'll have a flight of ECM drones though, might be a different story then.
Dell John your posts are making me want to play EVE again on a daily basis
I have a Pilgrim for that reason. Now I'm waiting for my wife to finish training for a Falcon so we can go sneak up on people and wreak havoc
Originally posted by: FlasHBurN
Check out the Corp that Malladine, Sunny, and now myself are in.
T-RET
(t-ret public chat). Corp leader is Reynolds.
I've only been a member for less than a week, but everyone is extremely helpful and courteous. Seems like they frequently do mining and pvp ops, either just as a Corp or with the Alliance we are in.
Originally posted by: FlasHBurN
Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
Originally posted by: FlasHBurN
Originally posted by: Beev
Ok, I think I'm going to re-sub tonight. Is there an AT corporation I should join? Not looking for any handouts, just somewhere social to be
I asked the same thing earlier, no response. I'm looking for the same thing as you.
Yeah, haven't found any ATers to play with, but I suppose I want to be capable of defending myself first
Check out the Corp that Malladine, Sunny, and now myself are in.
T-RET
(t-ret public chat). Corp leader is Reynolds.
I've only been a member for less than a week, but everyone is extremely helpful and courteous. Seems like they frequently do mining and pvp ops, either just as a Corp or with the Alliance we are in.
Originally posted by: Dell John B
Originally posted by: FlasHBurN
Check out the Corp that Malladine, Sunny, and now myself are in.
T-RET
(t-ret public chat). Corp leader is Reynolds.
I've only been a member for less than a week, but everyone is extremely helpful and courteous. Seems like they frequently do mining and pvp ops, either just as a Corp or with the Alliance we are in.
T-RET...
Why does this sound familiar?
Where you guys located? Perhaps we've clashed...
Originally posted by: Coldkilla
...So I'm basically tied to them now..
Originally posted by: Coldkilla
I guess 30mil is "chump change" to yall who've played the game for more than 16 days .. It'd take me like 10 days to hit that amount on my own. I dunno where to go from here in the game.
Originally posted by: Dell John B
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You actually come off as a 0.0 denizen who does blob-warfare a lot. Amiright? It isn't an insult, just a guess.