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Lifer
Oct 2, 2005
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If they have an active wardec there is no security rating hit for popping fellow militia members they're at war with. Gate guns don't aggro, and fellow militiamen can't help without taking a sec/faction hit and gate gun aggro. That's why I recommend joining the NPC corps if you're FWing -- less fucktard annoyance to deal with.

I'm once again doing the Amarr FW thing and remembering why I hate it so. It's sheer agony getting a decent fight.

Oh, Rad: you forget insurance. After insurance battleships are cheaper than free if you don't rig them. The difference between their price and platinum insurance payout can cover fittings so long as you don't go too crazy and fit a few T1 pieces. For example, the abaddon is 180M payout, 54M insurance cost IIRC. You can find them for 124M or less around empire. Which means 2M net income for every one you lose. The same goes to a lesser extent for almost all other T1 ships.

I bought a stack of over 100 abaddons a few days ago. Took me about 6 hours to gank my own alts flying them (damn that built-in 25% resist bonus) but now my epeen is HUGE.

Couldn't you just self destruct your ship to get the payout?
 

v8envy

Platinum Member
Sep 7, 2002
2,720
0
0
Couldn't you just self destruct your ship to get the payout?

No, SD is on a two minute timer. Joining a militia in hostile territory and shooting the station to aggro station guns combined with a gank & salvage set up alt can cycle an abaddon in under 10 seconds. Saving a minute+ per pop is huge when you've got hundreds of ships to process. With a fourth account I could probably hit 200M/hour in Jita 4-4 buying from sell orders.

If it wasn't for the docking delays and 2 minute SD timer you wouldn't find so many ships under insurance payout.
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
Dec 11, 2000
24,254
4,077
136
I just saw this on Impulse: http://www.impulsedriven.com/eveonline

You can get 30 days of Eve for $9.95! That is normally $20 to join including the startup fee. I was suprised to see that, considering the game seems to be doing very well with subscriptions.

Ooohh.. tempting me to get another alt going. I did that when Steam had the 4.95 EVE sale. Just use the buddy invite program and you'll get 81 free days of EVE for 9.95! Like this:

Use your main to invite a new email address of yours, start an account with this new email address using the 9.95 copy of EVE. With the 9.95 copy of EVE you'll get your 21 day trial + 30 free days when you become an active account. With the buddy program your main will get 30 free days. Bam. 81 days cheap. Best way to get an alt rolling.
 

KaOTiK

Lifer
Feb 5, 2001
10,877
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Steam has Eve on sale for $5 right now.

I just did buddy invites from my accounts and in the end got 3 months of gametime for each of my accounts. Not bad for $30
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
Dec 11, 2000
24,254
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Steam has Eve on sale for $5 right now.

I just did buddy invites from my accounts and in the end got 3 months of gametime for each of my accounts. Not bad for $30

Damn that's tempting. Might be time for a new alt.
 
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v8envy

Platinum Member
Sep 7, 2002
2,720
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Got another stack of 100-150 abaddons coming in. If I can self-gank them before new year's I think I'll have nearly 300 solo battleship (and about 20 hulk & mackinaw) kills with no losses in one month. That should shrivel some epeens out there, at least until they actually look at the kills.
 

Raduque

Lifer
Aug 22, 2004
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Oh, Rad: you forget insurance. After insurance battleships are cheaper than free if you don't rig them. The difference between their price and platinum insurance payout can cover fittings so long as you don't go too crazy and fit a few T1 pieces. For example, the abaddon is 180M payout, 54M insurance cost IIRC. You can find them for 124M or less around empire. Which means 2M net income for every one you lose. The same goes to a lesser extent for almost all other T1 ships.

I bought a stack of over 100 abaddons a few days ago. Took me about 6 hours to gank my own alts flying them (damn that built-in 25% resist bonus) but now my epeen is HUGE.

Yea, but you have the financial base to be able to do that and make a profit. I have around $200 million isk, and that's it. I just don't have the kind of capitol that most eve players do. I simply can't afford to lose 3-5 ships every day trying to get a kill, even cruisers would very quickly bankrupt me.
 

Martimus

Diamond Member
Apr 24, 2007
4,488
153
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Happy New Year everyone!

When I started in my new alliance, I made a few goals to get by the end of the year. None of them seemed overly difficult, but surprisingly I was on pace to miss all 5 goals until the day I became an outlaw. Since then, I have not only met the goals I have exceeded all five.

My goals were simple:
Attain 100 Real Kills (I got 182, and 200 total)
Kill 10B ISK worth of targets (I destroyed 20.33B ISK worth of targets)
Attain 10,000 total points [kill points minus loss points] - (I attained 13,809 total points and 14,757 kill points with 948 loss points)
Maintain a 90% or better efficiency ratio (I have a 95.71% efficiency ratio)
Maintain a 10:1 kill ratio or better (I have a 13.33 : 1 kill ratio)
http://www.nawti.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=39347

All this sounds like bragging, but to be honest none of this is particularly impressive. Even so, I am happy to have attained all my goals and wanted to share!
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
Dec 11, 2000
24,254
4,077
136
Happy New Year everyone!

When I started in my new alliance, I made a few goals to get by the end of the year. None of them seemed overly difficult, but surprisingly I was on pace to miss all 5 goals until the day I became an outlaw. Since then, I have not only met the goals I have exceeded all five.

My goals were simple:
Attain 100 Real Kills (I got 182, and 200 total)
Kill 10B ISK worth of targets (I destroyed 20.33B ISK worth of targets)
Attain 10,000 total points [kill points minus loss points] - (I attained 13,809 total points and 14,757 kill points with 948 loss points)
Maintain a 90% or better efficiency ratio (I have a 95.71% efficiency ratio)
Maintain a 10:1 kill ratio or better (I have a 13.33 : 1 kill ratio)
http://www.nawti.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=39347

All this sounds like bragging, but to be honest none of this is particularly impressive. Even so, I am happy to have attained all my goals and wanted to share!

Sounds good! Looks like you're picking your battles well.
 

nsafreak

Diamond Member
Oct 16, 2001
7,093
3
81
Happy New Year everyone!

When I started in my new alliance, I made a few goals to get by the end of the year. None of them seemed overly difficult, but surprisingly I was on pace to miss all 5 goals until the day I became an outlaw. Since then, I have not only met the goals I have exceeded all five.

My goals were simple:
Attain 100 Real Kills (I got 182, and 200 total)
Kill 10B ISK worth of targets (I destroyed 20.33B ISK worth of targets)
Attain 10,000 total points [kill points minus loss points] - (I attained 13,809 total points and 14,757 kill points with 948 loss points)
Maintain a 90% or better efficiency ratio (I have a 95.71% efficiency ratio)
Maintain a 10:1 kill ratio or better (I have a 13.33 : 1 kill ratio)
http://www.nawti.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=39347

All this sounds like bragging, but to be honest none of this is particularly impressive. Even so, I am happy to have attained all my goals and wanted to share!

Nice work indeed. Nowadays I don't do much in the way of solo killing but I still have my fun. Such is the life of a capital ship pilot. I really should make a character dedicated to pving in lowsec for fun just busy in Fountain at the moment.
 

Martimus

Diamond Member
Apr 24, 2007
4,488
153
106
Thanks guys. Now I still need to kill a T3 ship, a Marauder, a Dread and a Mothership. The first 3 are pretty likely to happen within the next few months, but a MS will be a little more difficult.
 

JRich

Platinum Member
Jun 7, 2005
2,717
1
71
Heh, some guy over in the Eve forums was saying something about being safe making ISK in hi-sec and rolling in an officer fit faction BS. I wrote, "You really think you're safe in hi-sec? Where are you located?" Then he told me and he's right next to me! He seemed serious, but I hope for his sake he was just trolling or posting with an alt. If I find it again I'll post it here. Maybe I'll waltz around with a ship scanner
 

nsafreak

Diamond Member
Oct 16, 2001
7,093
3
81
Heh, some guy over in the Eve forums was saying something about being safe making ISK in hi-sec and rolling in an officer fit faction BS. I wrote, "You really think you're safe in hi-sec? Where are you located?" Then he told me and he's right next to me! He seemed serious, but I hope for his sake he was just trolling or posting with an alt. If I find it again I'll post it here. Maybe I'll waltz around with a ship scanner

No place is safe although it wouldn't be easy to kill an officer fit faction BS before Concord nailed you if you tried it in high sec space unless you had a wardec or a fair number of friends with high DPS ships. The wardec would tip him off though and he would likely leave the ship docked, best bet would be friends and high dps ships.
 

JRich

Platinum Member
Jun 7, 2005
2,717
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No place is safe although it wouldn't be easy to kill an officer fit faction BS before Concord nailed you if you tried it in high sec space unless you had a wardec or a fair number of friends with high DPS ships. The wardec would tip him off though and he would likely leave the ship docked, best bet would be friends and high dps ships.

Oh, I wouldn't try it alone :twisted:

And he was naming low-sec places too
 

ichy

Diamond Member
Oct 5, 2006
6,940
8
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I've been playing EVE on and off for quite a while, and I've finally decided to swear off my carebearish ways and start having some real fun in 0.0. For now I'm trying to learn to rat safely in nul-sec & have had several Caracals & pods shot out from underneath me, guess that'll teach me to keep an eye on local and on the directional scanner. Anyone here interested in doing some nul-sec ratting in cheap cruisers?
 

Martimus

Diamond Member
Apr 24, 2007
4,488
153
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I've been playing EVE on and off for quite a while, and I've finally decided to swear off my carebearish ways and start having some real fun in 0.0. For now I'm trying to learn to rat safely in nul-sec & have had several Caracals & pods shot out from underneath me, guess that'll teach me to keep an eye on local and on the directional scanner. Anyone here interested in doing some nul-sec ratting in cheap cruisers?

I would be interested in killing cheap cruisers doing null-sec ratting.

Honestly though, you should try your hand at PvP, so that when you get into these situations you know what to do. It isn't so much that you know how to fight back, but when you take the time to hunt targets you will understand the steps you can take to avoid getting hunted better.

I could use the sec status, and would actually go with you and rat (I really am not that mean of a guy, ask the people around here who have met me), but at the moment Rooks and Kings has started a campaign against us (lol). They run at the first sign of any trouble, and refuse to fight us unless they heavily outnumber us, but they are attacking our carebear corps fail fit POSes and it is taking a lot of time to defend them versus enjoying playing the game. I think the RnK alliance is pathetic, as they lose respect daily by continuing to run from fights, but if they keep annoying me like this, I will make sure to start popping their ships in their space (right now they aren't worth my time though). Maybe they will start to grow some balls if they lose enough ships. Then they could be fun to shoot.
 

ichy

Diamond Member
Oct 5, 2006
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A lot of my losses were because I did stupid things. For example, I'd rat in the 0.0 system that was closest to low-sec space rather than going deeper into nul-sec. Once I was there I didn't keep an eye on local, didn't use my directional scanner, warped straight to belts rather than 50km away, etc etc. After a little more practice I'd like to fit a ship that would be good at surprising and popping interceptors that are tackling. I'm guessing something with a nos, rocket launchers and a webber would be the way to go?
 

JRich

Platinum Member
Jun 7, 2005
2,717
1
71
A lot of my losses were because I did stupid things. For example, I'd rat in the 0.0 system that was closest to low-sec space rather than going deeper into nul-sec. Once I was there I didn't keep an eye on local, didn't use my directional scanner, warped straight to belts rather than 50km away, etc etc. After a little more practice I'd like to fit a ship that would be good at surprising and popping interceptors that are tackling. I'm guessing something with a nos, rocket launchers and a webber would be the way to go?

No NOS or rocket lanchers.

Neut/web/scram/warrior drones
 

ichy

Diamond Member
Oct 5, 2006
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If I'm flying a caldari ship though it seems like I could do a lot more damage if I hit them with rockets rather than just drones.
 
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