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Martimus

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Well you need to pay the monthly fee so no. You have to spend something. But as far as microtransactions go no you can do it without. I only recommend that get some initial plex as seed money or use a service like my newbie referral for 50 million isk. pm for details

I didn't need any seed money. You can definitely go about it without paying additional money to the subscription (and once you have a good source of ISK, you can even get buy without the subscription since you can buy game time with ingame currency). Just fly what you can fit properly, and stick to High-sec in ships that you can't afford to easily lose, and ISK shouldn't be an issue.
 

Fallen Kell

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Ok, I hate hi-sec wars... Seriously the station games are just annoying as hell. I mean, if you want to come fight us, come fight us. If you can't fight us, GTFO. I am at the point where I am thinking of logging in with a neutral and fitting out a "bump" ship just to hit these a-holes in their T3 cruisers who our corp is constantly getting down to 5% armor and then they dock because they de-aggressed when the hit 50%. That will teach them to fly a 1B isk ship around for a war...
 

v8envy

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By the way, CCP stopped the accumulation of research points for inactive accounts.

They DID? When? I've got a bunch of datacore alts with lapsed accounts, was hoping to resub some day for a huge payday... When I last had a subscription (september or so) inactive account still gathered RP.
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
Dec 11, 2000
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Hmm.. I'm getting the itch to fly caps again. I should never have sold my cap char. Guess I have to hold off on spending every isk I make and buy one. *sulks back to missioning* Fucking PvE.
 

v8envy

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Hmm.. I'm getting the itch to fly caps again. I should never have sold my cap char. Guess I have to hold off on spending every isk I make and buy one. *sulks back to missioning* Fucking PvE.

Missioning is what, 50c/hour or so? I'd say figure out some way to earn a few extra bucks RL and sell some GTCs.

Mission grinding when done with the express purpose of financing something is a lose if you live in a country with any kind of economy. Missioning for the purpose of setting speed records as a personal challenge -- that's something else.
 

TheVrolok

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Missioning is what, 50c/hour or so? I'd say figure out some way to earn a few extra bucks RL and sell some GTCs.

Mission grinding when done with the express purpose of financing something is a lose if you live in a country with any kind of economy. Missioning for the purpose of setting speed records as a personal challenge -- that's something else.

I do about 110m/hour missioning. It adds up quickly. I have 0 income (outside of loans) in RL, so I won't be buying GTCs anytime soon .. although with the rise in PLEX prices it's quite a bit more cost effective than it used to be. Like 40 bucks for 650m or so?
 

Martimus

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I do about 110m/hour missioning. It adds up quickly. I have 0 income (outside of loans) in RL, so I won't be buying GTCs anytime soon .. although with the rise in PLEX prices it's quite a bit more cost effective than it used to be. Like 40 bucks for 650m or so?

$35 for nearly 800M ISK actually. Still the RL cost can add up fast.
 

cixx79

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EVE was fun for me, I still get the urge to get back in the saddle but when I do, I am left with a feeling of disappointment with the game.
 

LurkerPrime

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I haven't played eve in about 2 years. I left(rage quit) with about 3-4 Billion Isk split between 2 accounts. Is that still a decent amount of cash in the game at this point?

Each account had a character with a little over 20M skill points. Would it even be worth coming back at this point?
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
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$35 for nearly 800M ISK actually. Still the RL cost can add up fast.

Wow, PLEXs have gotten even more expensive than last time I checked. That's really not a bad payout - if I wasn't in school and had a job, I'd probably just buy a few bill rather than wasting hours missioning. But as such, I can't do that.
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
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I haven't played eve in about 2 years. I left(rage quit) with about 3-4 Billion Isk split between 2 accounts. Is that still a decent amount of cash in the game at this point?

Each account had a character with a little over 20M skill points. Would it even be worth coming back at this point?

Like anything else in EVE 3-4 Bil and 20m SP is completely relative to what you want to do. The first time I quit EVE I sold off my bigger accounts and kept my (at the time) youngest alt just in case. That's now the character I'm using as my main and he's somewhere around 22-23m SP and I have a great time PvPing with him. Pretty solid subcap pilot. I probably only have like a bil across my accounts at this time (though I do have another 3-4 in assets) and don't really feel poor. So essentially, yeah, I think you could still have plenty of fun with 3-4 Bil and some 20m SP chars.
 

Martimus

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Like anything else in EVE 3-4 Bil and 20m SP is completely relative to what you want to do. The first time I quit EVE I sold off my bigger accounts and kept my (at the time) youngest alt just in case. That's now the character I'm using as my main and he's somewhere around 22-23m SP and I have a great time PvPing with him. Pretty solid subcap pilot. I probably only have like a bil across my accounts at this time (though I do have another 3-4 in assets) and don't really feel poor. So essentially, yeah, I think you could still have plenty of fun with 3-4 Bil and some 20m SP chars.

Yep. 20M SPs is enough to have a very effective focused PVP character. (By focused I mean single race subcap pilot that doesn't have any real weaknesses in subcap skills)

3-4B ISK is quite a bit for a subcap pilot, as long as you don't splurge too much on toys. I had 2B isk that lasted me nearly a year in game without any other source of income, and I spent half of that on a freighter and a low-grade slave set (minus the omega, which I should grab at some point). A loss won't set you back more than 150M ISK as long as you don't use faction equipment, and if you are smart about your fights, you won't be losing ships often.
 
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kamikazekyle

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A friend and I recently resubbed to Eve. I don't feel the need to grind to keep up like I do in other games, so I keep finding my way back every now and then.

I only have a 10m SP character who's *just* kinda getting around to battleships. Though, I'm concentrating moreso on getting into command ships, and a BS is mostly a stepping stone so I an extra option for a somewhat minimal time investment. My friend is already decked to the brim when it comes to Amarr battleships and cruisers and dabbled a bit in to inties, so I figured I'd focus on command ships and gang assists/jamming/etc to help round out his abilities when I group with him. I also figure a command ship pilot might be more useful to future corps than just another battleship pilot.

Before he quit, he gave away billions of ISK that he had saved up to his corp, but they booted him out while he was away Myself, I never had much saved up to begin with, so I'm sitting on only 8 million ISK from grouping with my friend in Level 4 missions. He did buy some Plex and kit himself out, and gave me some implants (he had a lot of LP saved up) along with a battleship gift, though I'm better in a battlecruiser at this point. Otherwise, I'm just plugging around L2 missions since I haven't built up much standing and don't have a corp yet.
 

KaOTiK

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As a command ship pilot myself I can't recommend it for most people unless you are in a corp/alliance that will be able to take advantage of it. For you and your friend it really is a waste imo.

I get extensive use out of my Damnation with my corp/alliance, any CS pilot a fleet will be looking for a lvl 5 pilot that has all the needed skills for 5 for the ship, modules, and mindlink. That is a few months of training to get all that up.

You would IMO be better off beefing up your skills for a BC then once you can go to the BS, the extra dmg with your friend will help more then a CS 9/10 times.

Don't get me wrong, CS are awesome and helpful but they are a pretty specialized set of skills that take awhile to train to the point where it is worth it. CS pilot job is rather boring at times but man, every fleet loves to have one along and you don't have to worry about being primaried, by an opposing fleet, at least I don't in my Damnation
 

kamikazekyle

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Certainly. Command ships is more of a long term goal rather than something just for my friend and me. It is pretty wasteful just for a pair, and I am currently working on beefing up my BS skills so I run with battlecruisers and battleships in the interim. I'm quite a ways off from effectively piloting a command ship -- it's more like my desired specialty, if you will.

Oh, and flesh it out a bit, I sometimes tank the battleships in the Level 4's with my friend in my current Drake's passive setup. I keep at such range and tangentials that gun weapons miss or hit for piddly damage thanks to the range/tangential and my resists. Most of the battleships in L4's tend to run torps, and against my cruiser the blast radius is so large that it doesn't do much damage, which is then further mitigated by my resists. Of course, that could just be the selection of enemies we were getting with the current agent. His new agent has been giving him different enemy setups, which could very well affect that tanking

*Anyway*, rambling aside, I do agree with you KaOTiK. I was in a corp when I was first going for the CS, but then quit for a bit so I'm now in an NPC corp. I figured I might as well continue the track for when I do manage to get back into a corp.
 
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TheVrolok

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As a command ship pilot myself I can't recommend it for most people unless you are in a corp/alliance that will be able to take advantage of it. For you and your friend it really is a waste imo.

I get extensive use out of my Damnation with my corp/alliance, any CS pilot a fleet will be looking for a lvl 5 pilot that has all the needed skills for 5 for the ship, modules, and mindlink. That is a few months of training to get all that up.

You would IMO be better off beefing up your skills for a BC then once you can go to the BS, the extra dmg with your friend will help more then a CS 9/10 times.

Don't get me wrong, CS are awesome and helpful but they are a pretty specialized set of skills that take awhile to train to the point where it is worth it. CS pilot job is rather boring at times but man, every fleet loves to have one along and you don't have to worry about being primaried, by an opposing fleet, at least I don't in my Damnation

Totally agree with this about CS. They're great, but it's a pretty severe training investment for a "minimal" return in terms of variety. I look at CS as more a thing to train when you've done a lot already, than something to train for right away.
 

power_hour

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I haven't played eve in about 2 years. I left(rage quit) with about 3-4 Billion Isk split between 2 accounts. Is that still a decent amount of cash in the game at this point?

Each account had a character with a little over 20M skill points. Would it even be worth coming back at this point?

EVE is all about your corp/friends/allies. If you have them SP/isk is not as important. Without them you will get bored watching your wallet and SP accumulate.

There are a few guys in this thread who have a corp. Try to see if they are a good fit. PVP corp is what you want trust me. This thread is making me want to come back...must resist!
 

Martimus

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Apr 24, 2007
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Yeah, I could use an extra active PvP pilot. We don't really have any organized PvE activities, so you will need to do your own missioning, ratting, plexing, or whatever you do for isk, but when it comes to PvP we are very organized and actively work as a group.
 

v8envy

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Sep 7, 2002
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Because it's Eve. If you didn't ruin someone's day you just aren't doing it right.

Got the 5 free days on my 4 accounts. Futzed around, remembered just how boring this game is. Mostly it's just wait to wait some more. I have no idea why CCP chose *now* to give out the 5 free days, there's absolutely no new content. I probably won't be re-subbing. Not even with the 20B or so I have in various wallets.
 
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