What kind of a setup do you use for your thorax? I assume that one of them can take down a hulk on its own?
Recently I have been ganking hulks in the high sec system right next to us. Fun and easy to do in a gank fit thorax.
I understand it just fine. I don't put time, energy and money into a game just to have some asshole take all my progress away from me. Yes, it's the fear of that that keeps me away from EVE, because I'm not willing to spend my cash on someone else's entertainment. Not even worth the risk.
Well, I've spent a total of $5 on EVE after being subscribed to the game for just over a year. I also have never been shot at by another player. You're not necessarily risking all that much.
I don't mine, but I do know serveral people in game that do and most seem to have never been attacked by other players as well. I can remember only one case of someone I know getting suicide ganked while mining. While he was stunned by the attack, he just shrugged it off and went back to mining. He didn't lose all his progress, he'd earned back the cost of his Hulk several times over by that point, and it wouldn't be long before the new Hulk paid for itself.
Suicide ganking Hulks is hard to make profitable, and while people do all sorts of stuff in EVE purely for the laughs, that lack of a profit motive pretty effectively limits how often it actually happens in game. A Hulk that mines regularily in low-sec is pretty much guaranteed to die within a week. The average age of an active Hulk in high-sec is probably measured in years. I suspect most end up languishing in hangars after their owners, out of boredom, give up on mining or EVE entirely.
Quite frankly I think you have a better chance of being scammed in EVE than suicide ganked. I hear a lot more people screaming about that in game than I do from being attacked in high-sec.
What kind of a setup do you use for your thorax? I assume that one of them can take down a hulk on its own?
Even assuming you've been making enough to buy PLEX from the first month, isn't there a $20 fee to start playing?
In theory at least if you can make enough ISK to buy a PLEX during a two or three week trial you can use that activate your account and never pay a dime to play EVE. In my case I wasn't able to make enough to buy a PLEX during my three week trial. Months later I picked up EVE for $5 during a Christmas sale on Steam and used that key to convert my old trial account into a full account with the standard 30 days.
One day later I had enough ISK to by a PLEX.
Within their first month playing, probably not. After 3 months, if you can't make more than 350mill a month, you are doing something wrong. You can have a market trader up and running in 2 days of starting EVE. The biggest issue is getting some starting capital, which you can do by running the tutorial missions (will get you about 3-4 million in cash and equipment). You should be able to turn that 3-4mill into 10-20mill in 2-3 days (after you have trained for an industrial ship). And that 10-20mill will turn into 100mill in a week or two, and from there 500mill in another week or two. Once you hit the 500mill mark, things slow down a bit (i.e. not doubling your income every week or so). Once you have 1billion or so, it is very easy to make the 350mill a month with just a few minutes a day....
I do know what you are talking about, as I have played the game on and off for years now, but I'm just saying I can totally understand the viewpoint that EVE's mechanics are designed around ganking and grief play.
While I don't think my particular experiences with EVE are typical as far how I pay for it, I do think there's a large percentage of the "carebear" population that's never been attacked in high security space. EVE certainly is game with more than it's share of griefing, but profitless suicide ganking done purely to piss off other players isn't a big part of it. The various forms of newbie baiting are a much bigger problem, one new players are much more likely to encounter and end up rage-quiting over.
EVE certainly isn't for everyone. A degree of paranoia is very healthy in this game, and that's not exactly a big appeal for a lot of people. But for most players in high-sec they face a bigger risk from an NPC blowing up their ship than another player.
Ding! Ding! We have a winner of the argument.
No, no we don't. Because that is completely against how I want to play the game. I can't stand "guilds" and their ridiculous demands on trying to tell me how to play the game. Again, I'm not paying for someone else to tell me what to do in a game.
Seems like everywhere you turn, the game is about letting someone else dictate how you play. I'm sorry, that doesn't fly with me which is why I haven't come back.
Seems like everywhere you turn, the game is about letting someone else dictate how you play. I'm sorry, that doesn't fly with me which is why I haven't come back.
No, no we don't. Because that is completely against how I want to play the game. I can't stand "guilds" and their ridiculous demands on trying to tell me how to play the game. Again, I'm not paying for someone else to tell me what to do in a game.
Seems like everywhere you turn, the game is about letting someone else dictate how you play. I'm sorry, that doesn't fly with me which is why I haven't come back.
http://nawti.evekb.co.uk/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1751605
This was probably the hardest fight I have ever been in. That geddon turned its gas harvesters on me, and all the oxygen in my Myrmidon was gone in seconds. I panicked for a second as I couldn't breath. I had to grab a spare SCUBA tank and breath through that while my drones chewed through his rather formidable tank of eight (8) warp core stabilizers.
Once that was done, I pointed his pod, and had to wait while the third person got a point to get on the killmail. While waiting, this guy asked us for a ransom. I saw there were 4 of us, so I asked for 400M ISK. He said he didn't have that much, so I went down to 100M ISK. He said he only had 34M ISK, so I podded him. He should really carry more isk on him if he doesn't want to lose his implants. (I can be a mean individual sometimes.)
AHAHAHAAAAagahahahaaaaa!!!! That has to be a great fit there. I will have to look at the killmail when I get out of work (it is blocked). What did you do warp a hictor on him? He must not have thought of that.
Well I don't think your case is anything like the norm. I'm guessing the majority of players either can't or don't make enough to buy a plex per month.
I think during the last consensus CCP did, the average Eve player has like 300m in their wallet.
Per character? Or per account? If it's per character I could easily see that being the case. I have 3 characters on each of my 3 accounts, my primary char on my primary account has somewhere around 10B, the other 8 have essentially 0. So that's just a bit over 1B average per char, when in reality, I'm just 1 person. There are many, many, many alts in the EVE universe.
Well I don't think your case is anything like the norm. I'm guessing the majority of players either can't or don't make enough to buy a plex per month.