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iamwiz82

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Thorny
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: Thorny

The hemi's o-60 is 6.8, so that truck's not too far behind you. What happens if you can't find 93 octane

6.8 vs 5.4...he's right behind me? Then what? I can go up to 150mph...is he going to follow me up there too?

LOL...you're just being silly now.



Not sure what the top speed is for the truck, but its 1/4 mile time is 15 sec, which is still only 1 second off your car. I know you could whoop it, but thats not bad for a truck. I will however hang with you til 150 in my car, even more if you got it

As long as we stay out of the twisties I'll be fine, otherwise I'd have to get the ninja out of the garage

And my truck probably weighs 500lbs less than yours with the same power.

Std cab SWB
 

Toastedlightly

Diamond Member
Aug 7, 2004
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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Thorny
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: Thorny

The hemi's o-60 is 6.8, so that truck's not too far behind you. What happens if you can't find 93 octane

6.8 vs 5.4...he's right behind me? Then what? I can go up to 150mph...is he going to follow me up there too?

LOL...you're just being silly now.



Not sure what the top speed is for the truck, but its 1/4 mile time is 15 sec, which is still only 1 second off your car. I know you could whoop it, but thats not bad for a truck. I will however hang with you til 150 in my car, even more if you got it

As long as we stay out of the twisties I'll be fine, otherwise I'd have to get the ninja out of the garage

And my truck probably weighs 500lbs less than yours with the same power.

Std cab SWB

and my truck... wait. Weighs more and has less power . Damn 1987 F150 6 cylinder. 170hp nad 180tq ftl.
 

91TTZ

Lifer
Jan 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: Thorny
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

I drive a stock 2005 Dodge Ram Hemi, which has 345hp.

Ummm..you realize 345HP in a full size truck is nothing compared to 400HP in a twin turbo sports car right?


You are correct to a point, but in a race stoplight to stoplight I would take the truck in a heartbeat. Torque is your friend in low RPM daily driving, and short distances. How much torque does that TT have at 2000 rpm?

It's a 5 speed, and I'd never launch at 2000 rpm. My engine/gearbox isn't meant for towing trailers and things like that.

If this was a competition to see who could tow a trailer better, the truck would take it for sure.
 

Toastedlightly

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Aug 7, 2004
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On topic, I've hit the speed limiters in my old '98 Grand Prix @ 107mph (I believe), my friends Chevy 2500 Pickup @ 97 mph, and thats really it. Been up to 115-120 in a '77 Caprice Classic (no limiter )
 

91TTZ

Lifer
Jan 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

not a problem. he's probably using some sort of multiplier in his horsepower equation anyhow, like adding 50hp for each RT badge he's got on his fender.

lol, don't worry, there aren't any stickers on my car.

I'm not one of those "box" racers who adds up the claimed HP increases on the boxes the parts came in.

I dyno'd the car to see what kind of power it put down.

I also took it to the track a couple of times to see what it would run. It's not a drag racer, has no traction off the line, and is in the beginning of 4th gear at the end of the track. But even still, it ran 13.0 @107.5 mph.
 

91TTZ

Lifer
Jan 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: jimbob200521

Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races


My Z put down 389 lbs of torque to the rear wheels, so it's not exactly torqueless.


 

dxkj

Lifer
Feb 17, 2001
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limited by revs in 6th gear in my tibby, not governor that ive ever found. Gearing maxes it at like 150
 

91TTZ

Lifer
Jan 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: dxkj
limited by revs in 6th gear in my tibby, not governor that ive ever found. Gearing maxes it at like 150

Wind resistance would limit your speed.
 

deadlyapp

Diamond Member
Apr 25, 2004
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Originally posted by: Thorny
Originally posted by: deadlyapp
No governor on my car - dodge stealth twin turbo, and it's not mechanically governed(5th gear redline) until 210mph.

Well, if thats how we're measuring, my car does 300+ mph in 6th gear at redline

How is that possible? You'd need the longest gears in the world, and at that rate you would take forever to get through them.

 
Nov 5, 2001
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Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: Thorny

The hemi's o-60 is 6.8, so that truck's not too far behind you. What happens if you can't find 93 octane

6.8 vs 5.4...he's right behind me? Then what? I can go up to 150mph...is he going to follow me up there too?

LOL...you're just being silly now.


actually, according to most of the info I found via google, it's more like 6.6 vs. 5.9-6.2, but yeah you'd still edge me out.
 

Stan

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Jan 4, 2005
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This is almost as bad as a "whats your (insert benchmark here) score?" threads
 

Toastedlightly

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SRT4 ftw! Not an ultra high top speed (as has been pointed out), but w/ larger front tires and more power, those things can pull.
 
Nov 5, 2001
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: Thorny
You are correct to a point, but in a race stoplight to stoplight I would take the truck in a heartbeat. Torque is your friend in low RPM daily driving, and short distances. How much torque does that TT have at 2000 rpm?

My MS6 has 275HP/280ft/lbs and does 0-60 in 5.4 seconds @ 3600lbs. I'd bet I'd beat that full size truck every time to 60...not to mention the truck has no weight on the drive wheels, and I've got AWD...

I've got some torque in lower RPM' than a lot of turbo cars since I have a smaller turbo, as well as the direct injection. Regardless, why would I launch below 2000rpm in that case?

It's not all about torque or HP...


Agreed, power to weight ratio PWNS all. A 190hp Lotus Elise would smack the sh!t out of his stupid Hemi 0-60 and would abosultely kill it in corners.

and why exactly is my truck "stupid"?
 

Insane3D

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May 24, 2000
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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: Thorny

The hemi's o-60 is 6.8, so that truck's not too far behind you. What happens if you can't find 93 octane

6.8 vs 5.4...he's right behind me? Then what? I can go up to 150mph...is he going to follow me up there too?

LOL...you're just being silly now.


actually, according to most of the info I found via google, it's more like 6.6 vs. 5.9-6.2, but yeah you'd still edge me out.

*sigh*

Dude, there were many issues with the magazine tests and using the wrong gas...as well as an early ECU powerloss issue that was fixed with a flash.It's 5.4...

I'm not really going to argue though, I've spent the past 2 months finding out everything I can about this car...

Theoretical racing is sort of silly anyway...
 

Kirby

Lifer
Apr 10, 2006
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Originally posted by: illusion88
In my Integra I got to 142mph down a hill in Nevada. On the flats I could only maintain 136mph.

thats about how my jetta is.
 

Thorny

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May 8, 2005
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Originally posted by: deadlyapp
Originally posted by: Thorny
Originally posted by: deadlyapp
No governor on my car - dodge stealth twin turbo, and it's not mechanically governed(5th gear redline) until 210mph.

Well, if thats how we're measuring, my car does 300+ mph in 6th gear at redline

How is that possible? You'd need the longest gears in the world, and at that rate you would take forever to get through them.


My car has the T56 transmission, which has two overdrive gears at .74 and .50. My car will run at 164mph at redline in 5th, but decelerate at that speed in 6th. 6th gear is for fuel economy only. Running at 80mph on the interstate, my rpms are only around 2000 in 6th gear.
 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

not a problem. he's probably using some sort of multiplier in his horsepower equation anyhow, like adding 50hp for each RT badge he's got on his fender.

lol, don't worry, there aren't any stickers on my car.

I'm not one of those "box" racers who adds up the claimed HP increases on the boxes the parts came in.

I dyno'd the car to see what kind of power it put down.

I also took it to the track a couple of times to see what it would run. It's not a drag racer, has no traction off the line, and is in the beginning of 4th gear at the end of the track. But even still, it ran 13.0 @107.5 mph.


were you running clicks or drag radials when you took it to the track??? that trap time seems kinda low for the power you put down
 

91TTZ

Lifer
Jan 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: zerocool84
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

not a problem. he's probably using some sort of multiplier in his horsepower equation anyhow, like adding 50hp for each RT badge he's got on his fender.

lol, don't worry, there aren't any stickers on my car.

I'm not one of those "box" racers who adds up the claimed HP increases on the boxes the parts came in.

I dyno'd the car to see what kind of power it put down.

I also took it to the track a couple of times to see what it would run. It's not a drag racer, has no traction off the line, and is in the beginning of 4th gear at the end of the track. But even still, it ran 13.0 @107.5 mph.


were you running clicks or drag radials when you took it to the track??? that trap time seems kinda low for the power you put down

No, they were just street tires. First gear is almost useless. My 60 foot time was over 2 seconds, so the launch wasn't that great. But I have a lot of torque, 389 lbs at the rear wheels, so it does pull pretty hard in the beginning of the gear.

A guy with similar mods (Stage 3) and Mickey Thompson ET streets ran 12.4@108.

One problem is that third gear runs out just as I'm about to finish. Third gear will go a little past 100 mph, so staying in that gear will limit my trap speed, since I'm past my power peak and about to bounce off my rev limiter. Shifting to 4th will let me run a higher trap speed, but my ET will be higher since it takes some time to shift, and you cover a lot of ground at 100 mph.
 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: zerocool84
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

not a problem. he's probably using some sort of multiplier in his horsepower equation anyhow, like adding 50hp for each RT badge he's got on his fender.

lol, don't worry, there aren't any stickers on my car.

I'm not one of those "box" racers who adds up the claimed HP increases on the boxes the parts came in.

I dyno'd the car to see what kind of power it put down.

I also took it to the track a couple of times to see what it would run. It's not a drag racer, has no traction off the line, and is in the beginning of 4th gear at the end of the track. But even still, it ran 13.0 @107.5 mph.


were you running clicks or drag radials when you took it to the track??? that trap time seems kinda low for the power you put down

No, they were just street tires. First gear is almost useless. My 60 foot time was over 2 seconds, so the launch wasn't that great. But I have a lot of torque, 389 lbs at the rear wheels, so it does pull pretty hard in the beginning of the gear.

A guy with similar mods (Stage 3) and Mickey Thompson ET streets ran 12.4@108.

One problem is that third gear runs out just as I'm about to finish. Third gear will go a little past 100 mph, so staying in that gear will limit my trap speed, since I'm past my power peak and about to bounce off my rev limiter. Shifting to 4th will let me run a higher trap speed, but my ET will be higher since it takes some time to shift, and you cover a lot of ground at 100 mph.


yea tires can make the difference between a 10 second run or a 15 second run, oh and insane3d, if you look at my picture, there is a mazda6 in the background. it's my mom's when we were going out to look for cars for her. i tried to coax her into getting a spped6 but she didnt like the harsh ride so she just settled for the regular 6. i really liked test driving it, having traction out of the whole is something im not accustomed to. the interior was really nice too
 

flot

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Feb 24, 2000
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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
You are correct to a point, but in a race stoplight to stoplight I would take the truck in a heartbeat. Torque is your friend in low RPM daily driving, and short distances. How much torque does that TT have at 2000 rpm?

It's a 5 speed, and I'd never launch at 2000 rpm. My engine/gearbox isn't meant for towing trailers and things like that.
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Bah. I have a feeling I hold the (land) speed record for a pair of jet skis - towed them back and forth a few times from S. Florida to Atlanta behind my '91 ZXTT. And no, I am first to admit it wasn't the smartest thing to do, but I sure got some great looks passing people on the highway.
 

91TTZ

Lifer
Jan 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: flot

Bah. I have a feeling I hold the (land) speed record for a pair of jet skis - towed them back and forth a few times from S. Florida to Atlanta behind my '91 ZXTT. And no, I am first to admit it wasn't the smartest thing to do, but I sure got some great looks passing people on the highway.

lol
 
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