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iRONic

Diamond Member
Jan 28, 2006
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JFC… I don't know whether to cry or punch holes in the wall! Fucking humanity…
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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1819 News, run by a former Breitbart staffer, and praised by Steve Bannon. I wonder how lavish the party they threw was once they heard the news.
 

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
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JFC… I don't know whether to cry or punch holes in the wall! Fucking humanity…
Speaking of whom, have you ever thought that the reason He willingly allowed himself to be crucified on the cross was to show you the way out. We have all been crucified unjustly and your rage is proof of it, seems to me.
 

Pens1566

Lifer
Oct 11, 2005
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That's some shit out of Taken. Wtf.

I didn't get the feeling that it was at that level (kidnapping, forced against their will, etc.). I'll wait to see details on the "provider" side of it. The charge itself doesn't necessarily require that type of situation. It could just be what they used to open the case.

If that's not the case, and everything was consensual, then my panties aren't bunched. I'm generally against criminalizing sex work outside of the obvious scenarios.
 
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brycejones

Lifer
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I didn't get the feeling that it was at that level (kidnapping, forced against their will, etc.). I'll wait to see details on the "provider" side of it. The charge itself doesn't necessarily require that type of situation. It could just be what they used to open the case.

If that's not the case, and everything was consensual, then my panties aren't bunched. I'm generally against criminalizing sex work outside of the obvious scenarios.
The big question is who they are going to go after. The ring leaders for sure, but I have a feeling the johns will avoid any punishment and the women will be charged.
 

kitkat22

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I didn't get the feeling that it was at that level (kidnapping, forced against their will, etc.). I'll wait to see details on the "provider" side of it. The charge itself doesn't necessarily require that type of situation. It could just be what they used to open the case.

If that's not the case, and everything was consensual, then my panties aren't bunched. I'm generally against criminalizing sex work outside of the obvious scenarios.

The crime being charged is "coerced and enticed." Coercion - the practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats. apparently, the workers were predominantly Asian. I wouldn't be surprised if a sex trafficking charge comes along as well. As the article states, this is early investigation. I imagine every one of the "clients" are sweating bullets rights now. The client database has phone numbers, credit card numbers, driver's license and so on.
 
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Pens1566

Lifer
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The crime being charged is "coerced and enticed." Coercion - the practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats. apparently, the workers were predominantly Asian. I wouldn't be surprised if a sex trafficking charge comes along as well. As the article states, this is early investigation. I imagine every one of the "clients" are sweating bullets rights now. The client database has phone numbers, credit card numbers, driver's license and so on.

I'll wait for more details. The more "high end" the service is, the less likely this was truly against their will. It's loose enough that it could be "we'll give you gobs of $$$ to go do X".

Trafficking can be as simple as giving them a ride to said rental across an arbitrary jurisdictional line.

For some reason, this doesn't pass my smell test as something deeply sinister yet. More of a typical high priced escort service for the rich/powerful, just with the added ethnic angle. So far ...
 

mikeymikec

Lifer
May 19, 2011
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I'll wait for more details. The more "high end" the service is, the less likely this was truly against their will. It's loose enough that it could be "we'll give you gobs of $$$ to go do X".

The high prices could be offset against a "debt" that each girl/woman has to pay before they're free, which AFAIK is a very common arrangement amongst traffikers.
 

Perknose

Forum Director & Omnipotent Overlord
Forum Director
Oct 9, 1999
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I'll wait for more details. The more "high end" the service is, the less likely this was truly against their will. It's loose enough that it could be "we'll give you gobs of $$$ to go do X".

Trafficking can be as simple as giving them a ride to said rental across an arbitrary jurisdictional line.

For some reason, this doesn't pass my smell test as something deeply sinister yet. More of a typical high priced escort service for the rich/powerful, just with the added ethnic angle. So far ...
Pending details, this would be my take. Not to say it's all that pretty, any way you look at it. I know a guy who belongs to some site called, I think, "seeking," wherein guys with enough money meet women who "want to be taken care of." The "sex" part of it is not explicitly spelled out, but, c'mon!

I think he's crazy and stupid for doing it, and tell him so at every possible opportunity, but commerce . . . trading sex for money . . . is as old as the hills and almost impossible to stamp out.
 
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nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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This is simply disgusting on so many levels. And people are freaked out about trans individuals. 🙄

Would be interesting to see who the "clients" are.
“Alleged prospective sex buyers in this scheme first had to respond to a survey and provide information online, including their driver’s license photos, their employer information, credit card information, and they often paid a monthly fee to be part of this.”
People really be out here having security clearances and thinking "yeah, this is fine, I'll just provide concrete evidence that I'm looking to engage in illegal activity".
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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The crime being charged is "coerced and enticed." Coercion - the practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats. apparently, the workers were predominantly Asian. I wouldn't be surprised if a sex trafficking charge comes along as well. As the article states, this is early investigation. I imagine every one of the "clients" are sweating bullets rights now. The client database has phone numbers, credit card numbers, driver's license and so on.
Who in their right mind would have given a pimp/madam a whole bunch of private information. Fools be fools.
 

nickqt

Diamond Member
Jan 15, 2015
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It’s becoming a cliche.
"the old cliché “one man's meat is another man's poison.”. no pun intended.
So, you're telling me that people who obsessively and compulsively ruminate over the sexual activity of others are the actual deviants?

Say it ain't so, etc., etc.
 

MtnMan

Diamond Member
Jul 27, 2004
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So, you're telling me that people who obsessively and compulsively ruminate over the sexual activity of others are the actual deviants?

Say it ain't so, etc., etc.
FIFY

So, you're telling me that people who obsessively and compulsively ruminate over the sexual activity of others are the actual deviants republicans?
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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People really be out here having security clearances and thinking "yeah, this is fine, I'll just provide concrete evidence that I'm looking to engage in illegal activity".
I just can't explain how inconceivable this seems to me.
 
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