Everybody Deny the Holocaust Day

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Noobtastic

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Is it ok if I dont agree with you on that? I'm not saying Israel is committing a Holocaust but I don't think comparing 2 points in history means you think one of those points didn't happen.

As I said two posts above, Chomsky and Finkelstein don't deny the holocaust - they deny and exploit the reality of it to smear their opponents.

Drawing analogies to two points that don't connect with each other means one of the points is in the wrong place.

Denying an historic event makes you an idiot. Exploiting a genocide to elicit an emotional reaction or defame enemies makes you a moral idiot and troll.

People like Finkelstein and Chomsky are worse than blanket holocaust deniers because they express gushing support for the enemies of Jews, some of which openly express their commitment to the elimination of the Jewish people.

So in a way, they support a second holocaust.

Heh.
 

shangshang

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The Holocaust happened because Europeans hated the Jews. Europeans today still don't like Jews. Israel was formed as a way to kick all the Jews back to the middle east.

Me personally I do not support Zionism nor Israel. There is no democracy in Israel. The notion of "Jewish democracy" is an oxymoron. So why does the US keep supporting Israel and the Jews? Americans are all too happy for cheap Arab oil, yet they hate the Arabs and support the Jews. Americans are becoming Jewish puppets.

To be fair, there are progressive Jews who are more moderate and would like to see the Palestinians be treated more fairly. But these progressive Jews are branded as "traitors" and are outcasted from the rest of the mainstream Jewish community in Israel. It's too bad though.
 
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shangshang

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As I said two posts above, Chomsky and Finkelstein don't deny the holocaust - they deny and exploit the reality of it to smear their opponents.

Drawing analogies to two points that don't connect with each other means one of the points is in the wrong place.

Denying an historic event makes you an idiot. Exploiting a genocide to elicit an emotional reaction or defame enemies makes you a moral idiot and troll.

People like Finkelstein and Chomsky are worse than blanket holocaust deniers because they express gushing support for the enemies of Jews, some of which openly express their commitment to the elimination of the Jewish people.

So in a way, they support a second holocaust.

Heh.


Get off your soapbox and stop talking nonsense. Stop blurting as if Jews are saints. The Jews in Israel today are as much an oppressor to some segment of humanity as did Hitler do unto them. This time, Jews get to play the role of the king. The pendulum certainly will swing the other way.

Chomsky and Finkelstein (a progressive Jew) are in no way supporting any holocaust. Show me direct quote from them saying they the holocaust, or you're talking out of the wrong end.

However, seeing how Jews are systematically killing the Palestinians and pushing them out of their homeland, I am not sure if an another holocaust would be a bad idea! Wouldn't you say so?
 

Lemon law

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OK lets put it another way given the fact that there is no logic in Muslims going bonkers by any depiction of Mohamed.

And by that same logic there should be nothing logically offensive about drawing swastikas
to enhance the appearance of various homes, graves, synagogues, and other civic buildings. And while we are at it, we should burn some crosses and get even more people offended.
 

Linflas

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Get off your soapbox and stop talking nonsense. Stop blurting as if Jews are saints. The Jews in Israel today are as much an oppressor to some segment of humanity as did Hitler do unto them. This time, Jews get to play the role of the king. The pendulum certainly will swing the other way.

Chomsky and Finkelstein (a progressive Jew) are in no way supporting any holocaust. Show me direct quote from them saying they the holocaust, or you're talking out of the wrong end.

However, seeing how Jews are systematically killing the Palestinians and pushing them out of their homeland, I am not sure if an another holocaust would be a bad idea! Wouldn't you say so?

That has to be one of the most ridiculous statements I have seen posted on this board. When the Israelis systematically begin to round up Palestinians and send them to death camps where officials from the Israeli army inspect them as they march them in to determine which ones they will work to death versus which ones they will march off to the Zyklon B showers then maybe you can spew your Hitler equivilence nonsense.
 

tk149

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Here's the text from the actual Facebook page.

EVERYBODY RESEARCH HOLOCAUST DAY

We encourage everyone to gear up for a critical study of this historical event on the 30th of June

We are here to reflect about the foundational myth of the secular cult. A cult which has delivered human kind the biggest genocides recorded in history:

From the tens of millions massacred by the Atheist Soviet regime, to the other several millions wiped off the face of the earth by the hand of the Western secular fanaticism in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Iran, and an endless list of nations who have suffered the arrogance of Man over God.

Much of the injustice that takes place in our world stems from ignorance. We reject being emotionally blackmailed by Hollywood tales and holocaust museums which legitimize the war crimes and crimes against humanity of the extremist Atheist regime of Tel-Aviv.

Seems rude? Or insulting? Or immoral? Actually it doesn't matter. Because the secular brand of Freedom of Speech never cares about any of the above. Right?
Today I learned my lesson. Never be quiet. You have to be intensely speaking out insulting to people, even innocent ones. Is that how freedom goes?

It seems that they want to practice 'Freedom of Speech' not for bringing up any kind of logic, but to insult a person who is not even present to defend himself. Ok. Lesson learned. Thanks for your "morals".

I know who they are. They are the ones who do not care that you are Muslim, Jew, Christian. They want religions and morals to be wiped off from the face of the earth. The only things that they care about are power and money and "The Zionist state of Israel". Their excuse is Holocaust.

Now, I have a simple question for you guys. Am I as free as you? May I practice my Freedom of Speech too?
Let's research critically about the Holocaust then.

Although the above could be construed as a call to actually do some real research on the Holocaust, the author reveals his real intentions in one of his "Wall" comments.

We are not too ambitious here if you read our description. All we are trying to do here is to encourage people to research, study and reflect upon historical truth. We want to contribute our grain of sand to break up the emotional blackmail there is to challenge the holocaust, as a foundational myth for the illegal Tel-Aviv rogue regime, and foundational myth for the secularist world order.

First, I'm surprised that this guy is calling Israelis "atheists." Do Muslims not acknowledge that the god of the Jews is the same as their god?

Second, as pointed out, he has some major logic fail going on. He points to the "secular" world's atrocities, while ignoring those perpetrated by Islamic states and terrorists. It's interesting that he lumps the USSR together with the USA.

Third, this guy really missed the point of "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day." That's not surprising given that some in ATP&N have too. As others have stated, the original point was NOT to piss off Muslims for the sake of pissing them off, but to show the violent extremists that Freedom of Speech (yes, capitalized) is one of the West's core values and we will not allow that to be taken away from us. That's not to say that many people did it solely to piss off Muslims.

I will say that he has a point. Making it a crime to deny the holocaust (he posts an example from Hungary), is censorship of the worst sort. Freedom of Speech demands that we tolerate unpopular, and even stupid speech. In turn, we are allowed laugh, point, and make fun of such people.

It will be interesting to see if any non-Islamic countries ban Facebook (like Pakistan banned Facebook for the "Everybody draw Muhammed Day"), which would play right into this guy's hands.
 

CitizenKain

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Again, you refuse to respond to my post and continue to twist this as some legitimate disagreement about Israel policy.

TRIVIALIZING the HOLOCAUST by COMPARING ISRAEL to NAZI GERMANY and CLAIMING ZIONISTS are committing a HOLOCAUST against ARABS is holocaust denial.

I put keywords in caps because you seem incapable of processing simple sentences.

Do you feel that others who died in the Holocaust and want recognition are simply hogging the spotlight?
You should find some other broken record then claiming everyone who doesn't agree with you is an anti-semite, its getting old.
 

Borealis7

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how typically "we muslims are offended by the the entire world! lets take it out on the jews!" of them.

Cheese's Crust!
 

dainthomas

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I can deny holocaust all day long without someone threatening to lop my head off.

This is the exact point that the people "retaliating" don't get. If anything, they're strengthening the original point.
 

peonyu

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What happens if you do this in a country where Holocaust denial is illegal?

You go to jail for a 'thought crime'. I dont agree with Muslims threatening death for drawing pictures of Muhammed, but they are right in calling Europeans hypocrites. The same European countries that say its free speech to draw Muhammed are the ones that also lock people up and throw away the key if they dont believe every detail of the holocaust.
 

woolfe9999

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everyone knows chomsky is lying hypocritical psuedo-progressive marxist asshole.

oh yes, he supports free speech - writing forwards for holocaust denial, expressing solidarity with islamist movements - but god damn if someone dares challenge the leftist lobby, let's throw in the "speech codes" and make it illegal.

Not to mention that his book and article denying the Cambodian genocide have been used as a template by deniers of the Holocaust. I could go on and on about Chomsky. The man is pond scum.

- wolf
 

Noobtastic

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Do you feel that others who died in the Holocaust and want recognition are simply hogging the spotlight?
You should find some other broken record then claiming everyone who doesn't agree with you is an anti-semite, its getting old.

Hogging the spotlight?

the Holocaust is unique because it was the first industrialized and manufactured genocide, and was the ultimate act of antisemitism after 2,000 years of European antisemitism - expelling Jews from Britain, Spain, France, etc...

Nobody is hogging the spotlight - perhaps if idiots stop denying the holocaust and Europeans weren't such antisemitic fuckholes, smearing Israel as Nazi Germany and trivializing the holocaust - moral people like myself wouldn't be forced to call a spade a spade and remind posters here to join humanity.

Muslims are the ones who hog the spotlight, painting themselves as the victim of the West and Israel's existence. Telling the world they are victim to a Nazi-Israel that wants to inflict a holocaust-like event on their people, even though they deny the holocaust and deny Jewish rights.

It's absolutely hilarious. What's even more hilarious is when so-called progressives and leftist enablers actually sympathize with this insanity.
 
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