I'm curious - has anyone here EVER agreed with something agent00f has said? I haven't seen it yet if they have. Back on ignore you go, ya malicious troll. I had to un-ignore him for a second because -as usual- he seems to have turned this entire thread into people sniping at his sorry ass. It was really hard reading only half a conversation - then I unignored him and remembered why it's a good thing NOT to read his drivel.
He's derailed quite a few threads with his verbal diarrhea, only thing people can do is just report him. Anyone who disagrees with him, he just insults them with offensive personal attacks, either in the form of "degenerate", "klansman", and whatever other terms he can use to paint them as white and racist. You can't have any sort of discussion or debate with people like agent.
So why are your friends disappearing after being associated with the likes of you? Looks a little lonely for you representing conservatism.
Which "friends" are those? If you're too scared to justify the stupid things you say, you could always try not saying stupid things, stupid.
NYT op-ed:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/01/opinion/when-the-left-turns-on-its-own.html
More:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/03/opinion/sunday/bruni-campus-inquisitions-evergreen-state.html
HuffPo:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...n-college-and-the_us_5932d7a2e4b062a6ac0ad024
Took them awhile, but mainstream press is covering this, and in the correct manner.
As with Professor Weinstein, I am no conservative. I am the former president of the College Democrats of Maryland. However, this insanity is unrepresentative of true liberalism. Liberals who don’t call out these illiberal fascists are complicit in their growing influence and impunity. We real liberals must wake up, we must stand up, and we must act.
No, the marker of an effective punishment is that it's effective, ie stops the behavior being punished, not some other arbitrary metric. Granted, guilt is effective, which is why it's pretty obvious the targets do often feel guilt/shame when their behavior/opinions are observed to largely correspond with the @Roflmouth/ @chucky2 types, or when they're shown to lack much ethical values in general, or those values are completely subordinate to protecting said types. So appears they understand the just punishment perfectly fine. Furthermore, with targets like said types for whom that sort of guilt/shame has no purchase given they're particularly proud of lacking any remorse, seems there would be no effective punishment by your definition. Yet here we are with both reduced to nothing but tools against their own.
Now for the two mechanism special to humans: for identity I can't possibly make it more gratuitously clear that identifying with conservatism is absolutely shameful. For intellectual reason, I'll let you be the judge of whether that applies to folks whose modus operandi is playing dumb first and foremost.
Speaking for myself, I am absent because no one is discussing the OP anymore. Perhaps the topic has run its course. I think woolfe9998's post contains much of the requisite knowledge on this topic, in case anyone missed it:
Money quote from the HuffPo piece:
1. I do not support punishment on the basis of behavioral change alone. This is the method fascism uses to control behavior. One great thing about measuring punishments by guilt is that, in order for guilt to be felt, it means the behavior conflicted with something that was socially valuable. It's a reassurance that the behavior was in fact bad (in context of the social norms of the given culture).
2. In regards to damning all conservatives, have you not encountered the bystander effect in your studies of human behavior? The more people there are in a group where something awful is happening, the less likely any one individual is to step up.
It's the method everyone uses to control behavior, such as any modern society that offer punishments for crimes such that it's not in the self-interest of criminals.
For example, it's what you use to try to control my behavior by comparing it to fascists. I don't think you're particularly fascist, but your argument not mine.
Try, yes. See: war on drugs, US incarceration rate, recidivism rates. Escalating punishments and dehumanizing offenders is inversely proportional to crime rate until consequences of such punishment are severe enough and enforcement of such punishment is likely enough that people are very afraid: see fascist regimes.
See our MLK discussion. If my interest in having this conversation was in controlling your behavior, wouldn't you find it more efficient to do so via PM? Not my intent in this discussion. I'm merely helping bystanders on this forum feel safe to stand up to your tyranny. I don't honestly expect you to change.
And, with that, this thread seems to have run its course. Until next thread.
Speaking for myself, I am absent because no one is discussing the OP anymore. Perhaps the topic has run its course. I think woolfe9998's post contains much of the requisite knowledge on this topic, in case anyone missed it:
Money quote from the HuffPo piece:
All those people who got your back by turning a blind eye to the muslim genocide and everything else while they go on about those libtards for who the hell knows what, you know like DrunkenSano/Pulsar. Pretty obvious they'll carry that water for their own whatever it takes.
I'll tell you what, let's assume for the sake of argument that you're right, that the biggest macho braggarts only ran away out of deferential pity on me. But surely they must hold you in high enough esteem to come crawling back if you called on said pals to explain why they're too scarred to post anymore. This is a great opportunity for the lot of you to really rub it in.
Worth noting I wrote arguably the two most insightful posts for the topic above:
May have ran the course, turned into a huge pill of shit like normal. Responding to some posts would probably get me banned, because of reasons.
I posted that quote before, and its true. Not that anyone here will admit to it.
The left seems to be fighting for segregation now in many events, when fighting against is for so long before. Meanwhile, a BLM Memorial Day party was for blacks only. Whites told not to come. More segregation, which is not good. What do people of mixed race relationships do with this? It creates more black on black problems. Does this not hurt the very essence of what BLM is supposed to be? Why is a day for remembering the fallen soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines for one color? BLM being hypocrites again. I am not for any party/event for any one color, race, ethnicity, etc. It just makes the issue worse.
Could you translate this soup into English?
It's probably best not to post until after the meth has worn off.
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Just a heads up that people in it for the lulz don't compose long winded explanations of why they're going away. Though I'm sure interchange is convinced of the purity of all your intentions.
"Just a heads up that people in it for the lulz don't compose long winded explanations"
So why are your friends disappearing after being associated with the likes of you? Looks a little lonely for you representing conservatism.
I'm curious Fail, how do you substantiate your delusions? LOL
This is the best reply I have seen to this post so far, in the very first and the one that fits everything perfectly. Thank you for getting the point outright, maybe someone else that has been arguing in this post can see it again and understand what this is all actually about!!As I understand it, the event is being changed this year from a group voluntarily absenting themselves to the same group insisting that others bow to their will. A critical difference which seems completely lost on many people.
By the fact that the tools I use in you and Roflmouth are pretty much the only unapologetic conservatives remaining.
Agent's really getting the under skin of you righties; he's just acting the same way you all do to people on the left.
This is the best reply I have seen to this post so far, in the very first and the one that fits everything perfectly. Thank you for getting the point outright, maybe someone else that has been arguing in this post can see it again and understand what this is all actually about!!
By remaining, what exactly do you mean again? Sorry for asking again, I can't keep all the hysterical delusions straight...
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By remaining I mean still hanging around to help punish the other degenerates, because trash can't shake that chip on their shoulder.
LOL Fail!!! Hahaha! Little Fail, it's Summer. Plus the forum has, predictably, gone full TDS post-election. If it's nice out, you've got sh1t to do (work, playtime, whatever), would you want to come interact with a bunch of @ssraped Lefties TDS'ing out about OMG Russia!!! ? Probably not.
Don't take your efforts too seriously Fail, no one else does...wait, scratch that, Believe in them Fail, I enjoy your delusions haha...
A perfect demonstration of derangement.