Everygreen State College Professor threated by students for objecting to a "no-whites" day

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agent00f

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LOL Why don't you start a new poll thread Fail asking specifically if your delusions linking them to me (OMG what does that even mean?!) are what is keeping them from posting. I await the results...

Playing dumb didn't work so well for them either.
 
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I saw the Vice report pretty informative

What they conveniently forget to mention is the prof wasn't just speaking his personal opinion but using what pull he had to advise others to oppose the student proposal, basically raising the stakes and daring the students to escalate in turn, which some obliged. Of course he plays the part of innocence now for obvious reasons; well, obvious to those who aren't playing too dumb to understand anything. Personally I hardly begrudge Weinstein for acting in his own interest after his play didn't work out, but let's make it clear for what it is.
 

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Definition of proposal
  1. 1 : an act of putting forward or stating something for consideration
 

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Definition of proposal
  1. 1 : an act of putting forward or stating something for consideration

Of course the student did what they could to win politically by turning the screws on him, just as Weinstein is doing what he could by pretending to be some innocent victim to the conservative media so they can successfully push that narrative.
 

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Of course the student did what they could to win politically by turning the screws on him, just as Weinstein is doing what he could by pretending to be some innocent victim to the conservative media so they can successfully push that narrative.

At that point it ceased to be a proposal. Lets call it was it was, a demand.
 

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At that point it ceased to be a proposal. Lets call it was it was, a demand.

It started as a proposal, and he likely helped make it more of a demand by raising the stakes. It was basically a power struggle where the policy/exterior-politics are almost incidental. The prof was trying to throw his weight around and got heat from people looking out for their own interests. Now it's pretty clear some students went over the top, but that's hardly unprecedented in these situations using labor disputes as a classic example.
 

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An update on this one:

Weinstein and his wife (a professor of anthropology at Evergreen) sued the school for failing to protect them from angry student protesters. The school just settled with them for $500K.

http://www.chronicle.com/blogs/tick...or-who-criticized-handling-of-protests/120110

The two of them also resigned.
The story contains an inaccuracy. The professor complained about an impending change to the "Day of Absence," from the normal practice of students (and professors, presumably) of color voluntarily absenting themselves from campus and holding off-campus meetings, to white people being barred from campus for the day. That was the critical difference that sparked the professor's protest in the first place.
 
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The story contains an inaccuracy. The professor complained about an impending change to the "Day of Absence," from the normal practice of students (and professors, presumably) of color voluntarily absenting themselves from campus and holding off-campus meetings, to white people being barred from campus for the day. That was the critical difference that sparked the professor's protest in the first place.

And you point out an "inaccuracy" by posting another inaccuracy. Nobody was being barred from campus. The only difference is that instead of minority folks voluntarily leaving the campus for the event, white folks were invited to participate by voluntarily leaving the campus for the day.

Nice try though.
 

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And you point out an "inaccuracy" by posting another inaccuracy. Nobody was being barred from campus. The only difference is that instead of minority folks voluntarily leaving the campus for the event, white folks were invited to participate by voluntarily leaving the campus for the day.

Nice try though.
I appreciate the correction. The problem is that even the act of questioning the change was met by violent protests, so while I believe you are technically correct about the Day of Absence, the intimidation and threats of violence amounted to a clear de facto statement that the presence of a particular ethnicity would not be tolerated on campus on that day.

And hey, "nice try," really? I'm not intending to spread misinformation. At least give me credit for being half right, and try not to be overly prejudiced in your evaluation of my intentions.
 
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And you point out an "inaccuracy" by posting another inaccuracy. Nobody was being barred from campus. The only difference is that instead of minority folks voluntarily leaving the campus for the event, white folks were invited to participate by voluntarily leaving the campus for the day.

Nice try though.

It all depends what you mean by "barring" people from campus. No one has said the school was going to expel any white student they found on campus. But what happens at a progressive school when white students are asked to absent themselves but some of them refuse to do so? How would you expect those students to be treated? Just look what happened to Weinstein for merely objecting to this arrangement. Anyone disagreeing with the party line at Evergreen was reflexively labeled a racist.
 

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I appreciate the correction. The problem is that even the act of questioning the change was met by violent protests, so while I believe you are technically correct about the Day of Absence, the intimidation and threats of violence amounted to a clear de facto statement that the presence of a particular ethnicity would not be tolerated on campus on that day.

And hey, "nice try," really? I'm not intending to spread misinformation. At least give me credit for being half right, and try not to be overly prejudiced in your evaluation of my intentions.

You were more like 3/4's right. I would have chosen a different word than "barred," but the gist of what you were saying was correct. This was more than a polite request with absolutely no reprisal for refusing to comply.
 
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It all depends what you mean by "barring" people from campus. No one has said the school was going to expel any white student they found on campus. But what happens at a progressive school when white students are asked to absent themselves but some of them refuse to do so? How would you expect those students to be treated? Just look what happened to Weinstein for merely objecting to this arrangement. Anyone disagreeing with the party line at Evergreen was reflexively labeled a racist.

Yeah. It's one of those 'it would be a shame if something were to happen to you" moments that people on the side of the students would claim would never happen - but every rational person knows there's an unspoken threat.
 
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Yeah. It's one of those 'it would be a shame if something were to happen to you" moments that people on the side of the students would claim would never happen - but every rational person knows there's an unspoken threat.

They were also having seminars that day on how "Asian males are part of the problem." The ideology is now morphing from "white privelege" to if you are part of a racial group that is finding success in America, you are an oppressor or somehow linked to "white supremacy."
 
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One of these days one of these students will end up as president of the United States and then you'll really be in trouble.
 

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One of these days one of these students will end up as president of the United States and then you'll really be in trouble.

They're going to have to learn to tie their shoes first without blaming someone else for their difficulties. It might be a while.
 

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They're going to have to learn to tie their shoes first without blaming someone else for their difficulties. It might be a while.

I have no intent of actually joining your argument, but I thought this particular statement very funny considering who our current president is.
 
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