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crashtech

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@interchange , For some, participation in political threads simply about raw ideological warfare. In addition, it seems to be a human characteristic that we tend to see ourselves in others, or choose to understand the behavior of others through the lens of own behavior. Some call this psychological projection, but it's more subtle than that most of the time. We all fall victim to this to a degree, some more obviously so than others.
 

agent00f

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I was sharing a comparison that I thought was funny and followed up your reply with how I made that association. You don't have to identify with it. I don't care if you do. But don't say I'm wrong for sharing my experience as if it were some assertion that it is a universal one. But based on other statements about you in this thread, it seems I'm not the only one who has found you annoying and derailing an otherwise enjoyable non partisan dialog.

Your statements regarding people posting something disingenuously and knowing someone's ulterior motives are emblematic of why I'm open about criticizing you directly. And I do this in full awareness of my history about pushing boundaries in calling out people's internal motivations and crossing that boundary. Reflection on that here has helped me, and I invite active discussion of these things. I think they are critically important. I suggest they are engaged in with mutual curiosity.

So, I invite you, would you share your thoughts on what motivations you see in me? And do so respecting that it is merely your observation and experience rather than authority?

I only offer accurate assessments of reality, which often reflects various parties in poor light. If this is portrayed as a partisan issue, it's because in reality is it. This is a hill that conservatives are choosing to fight on, which is why Weinstein's fans are 95%+ right wingers, and to their credit it's smarter than most they've chosen.

As to the issue itself the assessment is also accurate. The proposal is that for a day white students stay off campus in a sort of contrast to their previous tradition where minorities stay off campus, a somewhat interesting turn of events. What happened is Weinstein not only signaled his personal opposition but endeavored to encourage others to oppose it which rather puts the point of the event at risk, so the claim that he's some innocent bystander in the resulting tussle for control is pretty disingenuous. Clearly things got out of hand for a bit, but with some intervening time and apparently effective msg by the president it's under control. Of course that's to the displeasure of degens fighting to make a mountain out of their hill, which is why the fake news continues to push this as their headline issue. I think it makes for a pretty good lesson in the price associated with trusting that crowd on anything.

You know how this works as well as anyone, but choose to make it seem like something it's not. I'll let you speak to your own motivations for that.

@interchange , For some, participation in political threads simply about raw ideological warfare. In addition, it seems to be a human characteristic that we tend to see ourselves in others, or choose to understand the behavior of others through the lens of own behavior. Some call this psychological projection, but it's probably more subtle than that. We all fall victim to this to a degree, some more obviously so than others.

Let's not pretend you aren't playing your role in this as some sort of "concerned citizen". Just like you were so very concerned about clinton, obama, etc.
 

crashtech

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Let's not pretend you aren't playing your role in this as some sort of "concerned citizen".
My role? You mean that of an ideological warrior, like you? I hung that hat up long ago, and perhaps one day you'll tire of it as well. Your statement ironically does a great job of illustrating my point though; even though you were not mentioned by name, you couldn't resist replying. Deep down, you know what you are.
 

agent00f

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My role? You mean that of an ideological warrior, like you? I hung that hat up long ago, and perhaps one day you'll tire of it, as well. Your statement ironically does a great job of illustrating my point though.

This is probably convincing to the dumbest liberals. Keep in mind all those posts where you reliably parrot talking points are archived for posterity.
 

crashtech

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This is probably convincing to the dumbest liberals. Keep in mind your past posts are archived for posterity.
Keep going, you are a real fine piece of work. Post any and all my old stuff, nobody cares but you.
 

crashtech

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Also, it's a bit like an Evergreen in miniature that more of your ideological kin here won't repudiate your bad behavior. You're the brown stripe on the undies of P&N, embarrassing, unmentionable, but perhaps inevitable.
 
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agent00f

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Evidence? The only evidence on display here is that you are an *sshole. Keep digging.

Just a couple issues that I recall:

School nutrition:
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ds-get-fat-again.2505009/page-3#post-38871305

Climate:
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...nge-is-occurring.2452293/page-3#post-37792385

Or pretending you're not conservative as many in your position do:
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/semi-official-inauguration-thread.2497487/page-5#post-38693215

Also, it's a bit like an Evergreen in miniature that more of your ideological kin here won't repudiate your bad behavior. You're the brown stripe on the undies of P&N, embarrassing, unmentionable, but perhaps inevitable.

Others here must be so proud to be on same side of the issue as the pathological liars.
 

crashtech

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This weak attempt at character assassination only reinforces everything I've said about you. Surely it says way more about you than it does me, as well as being what others must perceive as an unwelcome thread derailment.

Sorry to everyone else who has to scroll by this trash, I won't respond any further.

Have at it, agent00f, the floor is yours. You don't need me anyway, you self-incriminate adequately on your own.
 

Svnla

Lifer
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I only offer accurate assessments of reality, which often reflects various parties in poor light.

Are you sure about that? "ONLY", "POOR LIGHT". Let see.

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/high-chance-of-china-taiwan-war.2499383/#post-38743019

Look like you are a bumbling ignorant fool for everyone to point and laugh at. In poor light indeed by me.

Others here must be so proud to be on same side of the issue as the pathological liars.

Liar? Oh really? Where are the evidences of your multiple accusations of SNC, glrider, and others? Pathological liar indeed.
 

agent00f

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This weak attempt at character assassination only reinforces everything I've said about you. Surely it says way more about you than it does me, as well as being what others must perceive as an unwelcome thread derailment.

Sorry to everyone else who has to scroll by this trash, I won't respond any further.

Have at it, agent00f, the floor is yours. You don't need me anyway, you self-incriminate adequately on your own.

Let's put your honesty or lack thereof on full display. Your primary stance here concerns shunning partisanship, yet these nuggets crop up in everything you post:

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...for-vaccinations.2437257/page-4#post-37535056
Vaccination is a sci/med/technical issue to protect kids from disease, but there you were riling up gubmint this and that as conservatives are expected to do.

I think basic character does say a lot about someone and this history of intellectual dishonesty says a lot about you & similar peers.


Is your accuracy a 100% guarantee?

It's pretty good as typically demonstrated above.


Are you sure about that? "ONLY", "POOR LIGHT". Let see.

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/high-chance-of-china-taiwan-war.2499383/#post-38743019

Look like you look like a bumbling ignorant fool for everyone to point and laugh at. In poor light indeed.
Campus evacuated today due to direct threat
http://komonews.com/news/local/evergreen-state-college-campus-evacuated-due-to-direct-threat

Evergreen - Top 20 Monstrous Moments

^ Just in case anyone thought being influence by the same garbage as crashtech wasn't bad enough.
 

agent00f

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Speaking of being influenced by garbage:
http://www.king5.com/news/evergreen-state-college-closing-due-to-threat/444865562
"I'm on my way to Evergreen University now with a .44 Magnum. I'm going to execute as many people on that campus as I can get a hold of. You have that? What's going on here? You communist, scumbag town? I'm going to murder as many people on that campus as I can. Just keep your eyes open you scumbag."

A real mystery there what sorts are fond of their guns and use communist as an epithet. Conservatives rejoice at inspiring this true patriot.
 

interchange

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It's pretty good as typically demonstrated above.

I'd say it's pretty typically human. Regardless, at least you are not claiming to be infallible. So then, if you suspect something, such as someone's personal motivations, can you not present your observation and conclusions as simply that without the relentless sanctimony? Many people here come to discuss their ideas and impressions, and sometimes they do so in a way that breaks the mold of division which is rampant in our country (see: contents of this thread). And often they are biased, partially informed, inconsistent, and all other pejoratives you can think of that apply to simple human behavior. Can you be humble enough to think that some of its cooperative intent may be genuine and worth celebrating? Or are you sticking to your guns here that their behavior is pathology rather than human and yours is superior function rather than comparably human?
 

agent00f

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I'd say it's pretty typically human. Regardless, at least you are not claiming to be infallible. So then, if you suspect something, such as someone's personal motivations, can you not present your observation and conclusions as simply that without the relentless sanctimony? Many people here come to discuss their ideas and impressions, and sometimes they do so in a way that breaks the mold of division which is rampant in our country (see: contents of this thread). And often they are biased, partially informed, inconsistent, and all other pejoratives you can think of that apply to simple human behavior. Can you be humble enough to think that some of its cooperative intent may be genuine and worth celebrating? Or are you sticking to your guns here that their behavior is pathology rather than human and yours is superior function rather than comparably human?

If we're now "concerned" about sanctimony, consider who's been the most sanctimonious about pretense to non-partisanship yet turned out the exact opposite. It's perfectly understandably in his interest to lie, which is why I pointed it out earlier.

It's simply an accurate fact that some groups are far more prone to what can best be described as degenerate behavior, for good reason as I sometimes explain. I don't think addition explanation is necessary as to why that matters.
 

bshole

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I only offer accurate assessments of reality,

That is a very bold assertion. Isn't omniscience required to KNOW that your assessments are accurate? I try to model objective reality as closely possible but I am willing to concede that I could be wrong about damn near everything. The strongest statement I could make is that I TRY to make accurate assessments of reality and then give the data that I use to make those assessments.
 

agent00f

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That is a very bold assertion. Isn't omniscience required to KNOW that your assessments are accurate? I try to model objective reality as closely possible but I am willing to concede that I could be wrong about damn near everything. The strongest statement I could make is that I TRY to make accurate assessments of reality and then give the data that I use to make those assessments.

There are ways to evaluate whether statements are accurate, like with evidence for example.
 

interchange

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Pretty revealing that you've presented zero evidence to the contrary. How does that make you better than any of the conservatives I wonder.

I suppose, in asserting that your evaluation was an example of confirmation bias, that presentation of evidence to evaluate the accuracy of your assertions would be useful. But that's a lot of work, and I suggest that would be part of good mental functioning for you to do yourself.

Aside from this, my beef with you is not one about your claims and your evidence and reasoning. I think there are faults there, but such is no different from anyone else here (myself included). My beef is a moral one. Your method of communication and attitude are, in my personal moral view, bad.
 

agent00f

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I suppose, in asserting that your evaluation was an example of confirmation bias, that presentation of evidence to evaluate the accuracy of your assertions would be useful. But that's a lot of work, and I suggest that would be part of good mental functioning for you to do yourself.

Aside from this, my beef with you is not one about your claims and your evidence and reasoning. I think there are faults there, but such is no different from anyone else here (myself included). My beef is a moral one. Your method of communication and attitude are, in my personal moral view, bad.

Pretty comical for some ineffective lazy thinker to be casting stones.
 

Svnla

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There are ways to evaluate whether statements are accurate, like with evidence for example.

Yes, evidences. Like with evidences of your multiple accusations of SNC, glrider, and other posters? Where are the evidences?

Folks, another perfect example of lying from the pathetic lying troll of this forum. "Do as I say and not as I do". LOL.
 

agent00f

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Yes, evidences. Like with evidences of your multiple accusations of SNC, glrider, and other posters? Where are the evidences?

Folks, another perfect example of lying from the pathetic lying troll of this forum. "Do as I say and not as I do". LOL.

Speaking of conservatives degenerates who love to pretend otherwise. We also need to get blue_max here too so the lot along with Rubin and Milo can inform the other "non-partisans" how much libtards suck.
 
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