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ivwshane

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I suppose, in asserting that your evaluation was an example of confirmation bias, that presentation of evidence to evaluate the accuracy of your assertions would be useful. But that's a lot of work, and I suggest that would be part of good mental functioning for you to do yourself.

Aside from this, my beef with you is not one about your claims and your evidence and reasoning. I think there are faults there, but such is no different from anyone else here (myself included). My beef is a moral one. Your method of communication and attitude are, in my personal moral view, bad.

You should probably get off the internet because it's generally a pretty mean place.
 

Svnla

Lifer
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Speaking of conservatives degenerates who love to pretend otherwise. We also need to get blue_max here too so the lot along with Rubin and Milo can inform the other "non-partisans" how much libtards suck.

Still no evidence whatsoever? Of course, just like your brain. Keep boasting and lying. Sooner or later, more and more people will see your true lying face.

LOL @ "evidences" and "honesty" from your own mouth.
 

agent00f

Lifer
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Still no evidence whatsoever? Of course, just like your brain. Keep boasting and lying. Sooner or later, people will see your true lying face.

Not sure what's left to do when you make such a great case against yourself.
 

crashtech

Lifer
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You should probably get off the internet because it's generally a pretty mean place.
Would that produce a desirable outcome, in your view, if people who are generally not "mean" ceded the territory completely to those who are? Or is it fair play to call out the most egregious offenders, and encourage others to do the same? I don't think encouraging lack of civility is helpful in any way.

Also, that doesn't mean I don't think I'm not guilty. I am. Usually only when provoked, but still.
 

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Would that produce a desirable outcome, in your view, if people who are generally not "mean" ceded the territory completely to those who are? Or is it fair play to call out the most egregious offenders, and encourage others to do the same? I don't think encouraging lack of civility is helpful in any way.

Also, that doesn't mean I don't think I'm not guilty. I am. Usually only when provoked, but still.

I think the argument is greater than that. People act largely on identification with leaders who profess values the individual identifies with. Most people, though, are shy about professing their moral values, so sometimes really deeply and widely felt beliefs are sequestered because no one is brave enough to stand for them. Data and science aren't requisite to make change. After all, MLK said "I have a dream" not "I have a plan". He certainly didn't call people degenerates and say he knew their internal motivations.

In short, I think the recognition that the internet is full of mean people is best reason for me to be here.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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Would that produce a desirable outcome, in your view, if people who are generally not "mean" ceded the territory completely to those who are? Or is it fair play to call out the most egregious offenders, and encourage others to do the same? I don't think encouraging lack of civility is helpful in any way.

Also, that doesn't mean I don't think I'm not guilty. I am. Usually only when provoked, but still.

I think it means stop being a pussy. If you can't ignore the mean things in order to address actual points being made then the internet isn't the place for you. That's not because that's how I want it but because that's how it is.

Or spend your time complaining about people not meeting your moral standards.
 

agent00f

Lifer
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Would that produce a desirable outcome, in your view, if people who are generally not "mean" ceded the territory completely to those who are? Or is it fair play to call out the most egregious offenders, and encourage others to do the same? I don't think encouraging lack of civility is helpful in any way.

Also, that doesn't mean I don't think I'm not guilty. I am. Usually only when provoked, but still.

Seems pretty obvious liberals lose because they're often unwilling to deal with degeneracy appropriately.
 

woolfe9998

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Here we go, where radicalism and violence only beget more radicalism and violence. The school was closed down over an extremely disturbing threat that came over 9/11:

http://www.kiro7.com/news/local/thr...ate-college-amid-high-race-tensions/528732951

But the threat isn't from the left this time.

“Yes, I am on my way to Evergreen [College] now with a .44 Magnum. I am going to execute as many people on that campus as I can get a hold of,” the man said. “You have that, what’s going on here, you communist scumbag?”

The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

- Yeats
 

crashtech

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I think it means stop being a pussy. If you can't ignore the mean things in order to address actual points being made then the internet isn't the place for you. That's not because that's how I want it but because that's how it is.

Or spend your time complaining about people not meeting your moral standards.
Your statement looks like a false binary to me, but point taken anyway.
 

agent00f

Lifer
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I think the argument is greater than that. People act largely on identification with leaders who profess values the individual identifies with. Most people, though, are shy about professing their moral values, so sometimes really deeply and widely felt beliefs are sequestered because no one is brave enough to stand for them. Data and science aren't requisite to make change. After all, MLK said "I have a dream" not "I have a plan". He certainly didn't call people degenerates and say he knew their internal motivations.

In short, I think the recognition that the internet is full of mean people is best reason for me to be here.

Worth noting MLK wasn't exactly a hero to the degenerates until standing on the other side of that history became unprofitable for them. Now they often try to use him as something they always aspired to, same as svnla who calls black people "chimps" then quotes MLK.

If they were, they'd kill themselves.

Always great to have you brown genocide types around too as an example of the sorts that your kin would also never criticize for amorality.
 

ivwshane

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Your statement looks like a false binary to me, but point taken anyway.

The other option is to do what many posters here do and that's hold themselves to a high standard while still addressing the issues. Sometimes people conform when enough people do it and other times you just have to deal with and ignore the bs.
 
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crashtech

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The other option is to do what many posters here do and that's hold themselves to a high standard while still addressing the issues. Sometimes people conform when enough people do it and other times you just have to deal with and ignore the bs.
I aspire to that. I'll admit that it becomes difficult for me in an environment where personal attacks often become the rule rather than the exception. It something that is still new in my experience, coming from more heavily moderated forums.
 

Svnla

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Worth noting MLK wasn't exactly a hero to the degenerates until standing on the other side of that history became unprofitable for them. Now they often try to use him as something they always aspired to, same as svnla who calls black people "chimps" then quotes MLK.



Always great to have you brown genocide types around too as an example of the sorts that your kin would also never criticize for amorality.

There you lied again. I never call anyone simply just because of their skin color, race, creed but because of their illegal action, criminal behavior. Funny how you FORGOT to mention about that black girl hang on to the rail and kicked the Marine and his wife on the head several times. I called her out because of what she did, not because of her color but keep on lying because the fools and weak mind would believe you.
 

agent00f

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I aspire to that. I'll admit that it becomes difficult for me in an environment where personal attacks often become the rule rather than the exception. It something that is still new in my experience, coming from more heavily moderated forums.

I'm sure lying works better when it's somehow beyond decorum to point it out.
 

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Worth noting MLK wasn't exactly a hero to the degenerates until standing on the other side of that history became unprofitable for them. Now they often try to use him as something they always aspired to, same as svnla who calls black people "chimps" then quotes MLK.

I very much appreciate your continuation of the MLK story. It is quite interesting how that works. When someone has a socially productive moral value that is oppressed but is able to gain momentum among a subset of individuals through value-based leadership -- when that moral value wins out, its opponents are called degenerates and even they identify with that previously detestable value when it is "profitable" for them to do so.

And, so I ask. Who was MLK addressing as a leader? His base or his opponents?
 

crashtech

Lifer
Jan 4, 2013
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Here we go, where radicalism and violence only beget more radicalism and violence. The school was closed down over an extremely disturbing threat that came over 9/11:

http://www.kiro7.com/news/local/thr...ate-college-amid-high-race-tensions/528732951

But the threat isn't from the left this time.



The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

- Yeats
Is that even real? Seems like an idiotic caricature, smacking of a hoax. I mean, jeez, I hope it's fake. It ought to be self-evident that reasonable people of all ideological persuasions would find this, well, there's not even a word. Worse than despicable.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
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Is that even real? Seems like an idiotic caricature, smacking of a hoax. I mean, jeez, I hope it's fake. It ought to be self-evident that reasonable people of all ideological persuasions would find this, well, there's not even a word. Worse than despicable.

Anything in theory could be a hoax. But given the current political environment in this country, is there any special reason to doubt its sincerity? It may not have been an actual intent to kill, but at a minimum, it was an intent to harass, terrorize and disrupt.
 

crashtech

Lifer
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Anything in theory could be a hoax. But given the current political environment in this country, is there any special reason to doubt its sincerity? It may not have been an actual intent to kill, but at a minimum, it was an intent to harass, terrorize and disrupt.
No special reason other than I hate to see things escalate. I hope they catch him and throw the book at him.
 

agent00f

Lifer
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I very much appreciate your continuation of the MLK story. It is quite interesting how that works. When someone has a socially productive moral value that is oppressed but is able to gain momentum among a subset of individuals through value-based leadership -- when that moral value wins out, its opponents are called degenerates and even they identify with that previously detestable value when it is "profitable" for them to do so.

I purposely described it as becoming unprofitable, same as it's become unprofitable for various conservatives to play their games here.

And, so I ask. Who was MLK addressing as a leader? His base or his opponents?

He mostly spoke to the base, but certainly riled up quite the opposition while he was still alive when that base got uppity.
 

interchange

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I purposely described it as becoming unprofitable, same as it's become unprofitable for various conservatives to play their games here.

He mostly spoke to the base, but certainly riled up quite the opposition while he was still alive when that base got uppity.

Then perhaps your characterization of me as a lazy and ineffective thinker are misplaced, as you may have been missing the most important short-term outcomes in favor of something more concretely measurable.
 

0roo0roo

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