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jagec

Lifer
Apr 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: LoKe
IMO, religion has no place in modern times. It was a good form of control in the past, but I believe that the people can do without it, now.

Yeah, because worshipping at the altar of Marx is SOOO much more intelligent:roll:

Never said it was. In all honesty, I'm not agnostic, but whatever.

So where else do you get your idea that the sole purpose of religion is control? Because that's just as naive as thinking that US is the Great Satan whose sole purpose is to trample over the Middle East. It may be true of some individuals, but it's laughably off-base with most.
 

lowfatbaconboy

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Oct 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: LoKe
IMO, religion has no place in modern times. It was a good form of control in the past, but I believe that the people can do without it, now.

/flame suit on


I whole heartedly agree

edit: Great example of a form of control.... kosher foods
they were said to be bad back then because people couldn't always prepare the food right and would get sick. Today that is not really a concern but people still follow it even though those foods can be prepared easily so people don't get sick.

another form of control....follow these moral laws or you will go to hell.... the fear keeps people from breaking religious laws which very closely match up with basic societal laws (in general)
 
Jun 4, 2005
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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: LoKe
IMO, religion has no place in modern times. It was a good form of control in the past, but I believe that the people can do without it, now.

Yeah, because worshipping at the altar of Marx is SOOO much more intelligent:roll:

Never said it was. In all honesty, I'm not agnostic, but whatever.

So where else do you get your idea that the sole purpose of religion is control? Because that's just as naive as thinking that US is the Great Satan whose sole purpose is to trample over the Middle East. It may be true of some individuals, but it's laughably off-base with most.

With time comes passing of belief from parents and instructors alike. Some people are born into religion with a false belief. Faith has its limits and I'm sure we can agree; a lot of people follow blindly and without personal reason.
 

lowfatbaconboy

Golden Member
Oct 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: LoKe
IMO, religion has no place in modern times. It was a good form of control in the past, but I believe that the people can do without it, now.

Yeah, because worshipping at the altar of Marx is SOOO much more intelligent:roll:

Never said it was. In all honesty, I'm not agnostic, but whatever.

So where else do you get your idea that the sole purpose of religion is control? Because that's just as naive as thinking that US is the Great Satan whose sole purpose is to trample over the Middle East. It may be true of some individuals, but it's laughably off-base with most.

With time comes passing of belief from parents and instructors alike. Some people are born into religion with a false belief. Faith has its limits and I'm sure we can agree; a lot of people follow blindly and without personal reason.

a pretty good BBC documentary explains that in more detail its called "Root of All Evil?" by Richard Dawkins (a famous anti-theist)

edit: im tired and can't type
 
Jun 4, 2005
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Originally posted by: lowfatbaconboy
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: LoKe
IMO, religion has no place in modern times. It was a good form of control in the past, but I believe that the people can do without it, now.

Yeah, because worshipping at the altar of Marx is SOOO much more intelligent:roll:

Never said it was. In all honesty, I'm not agnostic, but whatever.

So where else do you get your idea that the sole purpose of religion is control? Because that's just as naive as thinking that US is the Great Satan whose sole purpose is to trample over the Middle East. It may be true of some individuals, but it's laughably off-base with most.

With time comes passing of belief from parents and instructors alike. Some people are born into religion with a false belief. Faith has its limits and I'm sure we can agree; a lot of people follow blindly and without personal reason.

a pretty good BBC documentary explains that in more detail its called "Root of All Evil?" by Richard Dawkins (a famous anti-theist)

edit: im tired and can't type

And I won't watch it. Anything that imposes a belief, tries to convince someone of something is not worth the time. I'll make up my own mind, and the next person should do the same. As someone already said, believe what you want to believe and shut up. I'm just giving my opinion.
 

judasmachine

Diamond Member
Sep 15, 2002
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we're all more mature than god, as most of us have enough sense to not murder our children.
 

Babbles

Diamond Member
Jan 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: LoKe
IMO, religion has no place in modern times. It was a good form of control in the past, but I believe that the people can do without it, now.

Yeah, because worshipping at the altar of Marx is SOOO much more intelligent:roll:

Never said it was. In all honesty, I'm not agnostic, but whatever.

So where else do you get your idea that the sole purpose of religion is control? Because that's just as naive as thinking that US is the Great Satan whose sole purpose is to trample over the Middle East. It may be true of some individuals, but it's laughably off-base with most.

With time comes passing of belief from parents and instructors alike. Some people are born into religion with a false belief. Faith has its limits and I'm sure we can agree; a lot of people follow blindly and without personal reason.

Having a false belief implies that that there is one "right" belief. Additionally since you seem to be able to identify what is false, that too would imply that you know what the "right" one is. That is arrogant and ignorant.
Furthermore faith does not necessarily have limits, simply because that would defeat the purpose of having faith. A lot of people do follow various religions blindly without reason, but that is irrelevant and fallacious because people follow are sorts of crazy stuff without personal reason.

Your inability to understand religion and purpose of religion should not be a reason to vilify it.
 

Tab

Lifer
Sep 15, 2002
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Originally posted by: destrekor
what do you think?


discuss.
my philosophy? well takes too long and too much typing to explain. if this thread doesn't get locked, maybe it will all spill out over a series of replies.

How about you, why should everyone be an athiest?
 

Looney

Lifer
Jun 13, 2000
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Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: lowfatbaconboy
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: LoKe
IMO, religion has no place in modern times. It was a good form of control in the past, but I believe that the people can do without it, now.

Yeah, because worshipping at the altar of Marx is SOOO much more intelligent:roll:

Never said it was. In all honesty, I'm not agnostic, but whatever.

So where else do you get your idea that the sole purpose of religion is control? Because that's just as naive as thinking that US is the Great Satan whose sole purpose is to trample over the Middle East. It may be true of some individuals, but it's laughably off-base with most.

With time comes passing of belief from parents and instructors alike. Some people are born into religion with a false belief. Faith has its limits and I'm sure we can agree; a lot of people follow blindly and without personal reason.

a pretty good BBC documentary explains that in more detail its called "Root of All Evil?" by Richard Dawkins (a famous anti-theist)

edit: im tired and can't type

And I won't watch it. Anything that imposes a belief, tries to convince someone of something is not worth the time. I'll make up my own mind,

And that has lead you to the agnostic answer of: i don't know?
 
Jun 4, 2005
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Originally posted by: Babbles
Having a false belief implies that that there is one "right" belief. Additionally since you seem to be able to identify what is false, that too would imply that you know what the "right" one is. That is arrogant and ignorant.
Furthermore faith does not necessarily have limits, simply because that would defeat the purpose of having faith. A lot of people do follow various religions blindly without reason, but that is irrelevant and fallacious because people follow are sorts of crazy stuff without personal reason.

Your inability to understand religion and purpose of religion should not be a reason to vilify it.

There is always a right belief if there is a true God or someone worthy of worship. If you know Jesus and his father exist, you would believe in them. That is a right belief. However, we have no actual reason to believe he does or does not exist.

I don't claim to know a lot about religion, I just don't let myself accept anything a preacher says. If God does exist, I'll find my own reason to believe in Him.
 
Jun 4, 2005
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Originally posted by: Looney
And that has lead you to the agnostic answer of: i don't know?

I don't know if a God exists, because I have had no experiences to show such an existence. Why would I believe in something that can't be proven?

If God himself comes down from the heavens and has dinner with me, then I'll believe. Until then I'll put faith in hold.
 

preslove

Lifer
Sep 10, 2003
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I see beauty in christianity. I am an athiest.

Some christians annoy the fvck out of me.

Some athiests annoy the fvck out of me.

Some Muslims annoy the fvck out of me.

Some Jews annoy the fvck out of me.

Why do jews, muslims, and christians have to kill one another repeatedly?

Well, traditional Jewish cultural reference points are fighting with traditional christian reference points, while traditional muslim reference points fight with BOTH of the others. Jesus, Muhammad, and the whole damn littany of jewish prophets are just fighting it out, using morons controling packs of explosives in their banal lives.

Religion presents a whole universe beyond the stupidity of each religions extremists. It's too bad we seem to see only the most idiotic forms of religious extremism and idolotry in popular culture.
 
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SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: Looney
And that has lead you to the agnostic answer of: i don't know?

I don't know if a God exists, because I have had no experiences to show such an existence. Why would I believe in something that can't be proven?

If God himself comes down from the heavens and has dinner with me, then I'll believe. Until then I'll put faith in hold.


I'm pretty much an agnostic. One thing that gives me pause is the consideration of how I would react if God or Jesus Christ himself came amongst us and started performing crazy miracles.

One thought that might go through my head is "What if this is a member of a race of extraterrestrials who is using highly advanced technology to exploit what they believe to be our greatest weakness?". That sounds implausible but to many agnostics and atheists Jesus all the sudden descending from heaven and curing the ill, turning the empire state building to gold, making pigs fly, etc. is equally implausible. Thus I cannot imagine a situation in which I don't have reasonable doubt...even if it is really our god here performing miracles in front of my very eyes.
 
Jun 4, 2005
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Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: Looney
And that has lead you to the agnostic answer of: i don't know?

I don't know if a God exists, because I have had no experiences to show such an existence. Why would I believe in something that can't be proven?

If God himself comes down from the heavens and has dinner with me, then I'll believe. Until then I'll put faith in hold.


I'm pretty much an agnostic. One thing that gives me pause is the consideration of how I would react if God or Jesus Christ himself came amongst us and started performing crazy miracles.

One thought that might go through my head is "What if this is a member of a race of extraterrestrials who is using highly advanced technology to exploit what they believe to be our greatest weakness?". That sounds implausible but to many agnostics and atheists Jesus all the sudden descending from heaven and curing the ill, turning the empire state building to gold, making pigs fly, etc. is equally implausible. Thus I cannot imagine a situation in which I don't have reasonable doubt...even if it is really our god here performing miracles in front of my very eyes.

Just wait for the meaning of life, or ask him how good of a lay Jesus' mother was. :laugh:
 

kasia00

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Feb 9, 2006
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ay~ Whatever.. .. Everyone should believe what they want~
so it's cooool.
i agreee..............................
 

HamburgerBoy

Lifer
Apr 12, 2004
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Everyone should become a Muslim fundamentalist and detonate bombs strapped to their chest. Why don't you start?
 
Oct 4, 2004
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I think everyone should be naked. Why?

Clothes lead to immorality! Nudity stops people from fighting. Have you see an issue of National Geographic lately? People around the world are nude. You don't want to shoot a machine gun or a howitzer or a flamethrower if you're naked. It could burn or scald in quite a personal fashion, quite frankly. Have you been to the zoo? Animals are naked. If everyone were naked, there'd be no war. Everyone's complaining about crime and the theft of cars in the city. No one's ever stolen my car. No one's ever pick-pocketed me. They've never even tried.
 
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