EVGA 750ti (nividia kernal error)

[Jen]

I'm just about ready to throw this card in the recycle bin if someone cant find a suggestion for this problem. I have done what research I could concerning this problem.
Changed power setting to maximum performance (nividia control panel)
Changed drivers several times (clean removal of old ones)
Tried different browsers New install of windows 7 64 bit with sp1


browser will crash , and gaming will crash

system specs
4590t (35 watt cpu)
750ti evga
asus z97i mini itx
128 gb ssd 2x8 gb
gskill trident pc1600 2x8 gb 1.5v
pico 150 or might be 160 for power with 192 watt brick


should note that the video card worked without issue in a am1 kabini 5350 system however it doesnt with this intel setup. any suggestions is welcome and hopefully can resolve this problem as I cant stand a computer that isnt stable to use.

 

[VirtualLarry]

You may have a 192W brick plugged into the Pico, but what wattage is the Pico itself? I think that they come in 60, 120, and 200W. Is yours a 200W, or a 120W?

Because if it's a 120W, I could see how it would work with the Kabini rig, but not the 4690T rig, along with a 750ti. If you figure the 750ti takes 60W full gaming load, then that only leaves 60W for CPU, chipset, RAM, and storage. Is your 4690T a 35W, or a 55W CPU?

 

[Jen]

You may have a 192W brick plugged into the Pico, but what wattage is the Pico itself? I think that they come in 60, 120, and 200W. Is yours a 200W, or a 120W?

Because if it's a 120W, I could see how it would work with the Kabini rig, but not the 4690T rig, along with a 750ti. If you figure the 750ti takes 60W full gaming load, then that only leaves 60W for CPU, chipset, RAM, and storage. Is your 4690T a 35W, or a 55W CPU?

4590T is 35 watt cpu
Pico is 150 watt plus the 192 watt brick.

 

[tweakboy]

Your issue is heat. You need to take pc out and blower out all dust. bringing it in and install your new VC. gl

 

[VirtualLarry]

Can you go into your BIOS, enable the IGP as well as the PCI-E GPU, and plug your monitor into the IGP, rather than the GPU? I want to try and figure out if it's a power-consumption issue, or a driver or hardware issue. The idea is to use your browser on the IGP, while the GPU is still using some power, though it probably won't be taking 60W, unless you run something on it.

Anyways, I wanted to also point out that a 35W TDP CPU, can in fact draw more than 35W, it's not an absolute top limit for power-consumption.

 

[Jen]

Can you go into your BIOS, enable the IGP as well as the PCI-E GPU, and plug your monitor into the IGP, rather than the GPU? I want to try and figure out if it's a power-consumption issue, or a driver or hardware issue. The idea is to use your browser on the IGP, while the GPU is still using some power, though it probably won't be taking 60W, unless you run something on it.

Anyways, I wanted to also point out that a 35W TDP CPU, can in fact draw more than 35W, it's not an absolute top limit for power-consumption.

have monitor now connected to IGP with video card still plugged in.

Jen

 

[VirtualLarry]

Well, do what you were doing before that caused crashes, and see if it crashes again.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Anyways, I wanted to also point out that a 35W TDP CPU, can in fact draw more than 35W, it's not an absolute top limit for power-consumption.

This. Looks like a PSU issue to me.

 

[Jen]

Well, do what you were doing before that caused crashes, and see if it crashes again.

will test it today . normaly it will crash just browsing internet. when it does i have to close browser and restart it or at worse case reboot. last night i played with 3dmark for 2 hrs and it didnt crash

 

[Jen]

Testing with cpu gpu i dont see any crashs , looping 3dmark or internet browsing. Useing a killawatt meter with evga 750ti my system reports up to 85 watts in 3dmark then crashs everytime. Kabini system tested game stable with killawatt at 90 watts. So I will do one last install of windows 7 if it still crashs I have to assume its the video card drivers not working well with this board or some sort of setting in bios that I dont know about.

 

[Jen]

New install , drivers from discs motherboard and video card. 3dmark crashs fast as before. Screen goes black says (entering power save mode) then back to desktop with nividia kernal error. Going in to nividia panel and changing power setting from adaptive to power helped game run longer.

 

[Jen]

Tested with 6670 video card with 3dmark no crashs either. Killawatt reported useage up to 70 watts. 750ti card was crashing between 60 to 80 watts. I also tried registry mod on previous install and it did help a little bit but not enough to make stable. So I have to assume the 750ti isnt going to work with this system as I dont know what else to do

Jen

 

[redzo]

HP EliteDesk 800 G1 specs: http://shopping1.hp.com/is-bin/INTE...Bv&CatalogCategoryID=exoQ7hac3gEAAAFBXwwoJAnG

You can't find real power consumption numbers(only intel's tdp) of the 4590t but,

The HP EliteDesk 800 G1 comes with a 4590t and it is fitted with only a 65w power supply. Assuming hp did their maths right and possibly left some room for safety, the entire 4590t platform does not seem to be that power hungry.

Then you'll need about 75w max for that motherboard's pci-e slot. You should be safe with that 150w max. Maybe that pico+power brick combo does not work well as advertised and their numbers may be inflated.
Can't you just test with a "normal" 300w psu? You could end up throwing away a functional gpu... when in reality it could be that pico power delivery combo that should be thrown away.

PS: I don't get it how the kabini system pulls more wattage(90 watts vs 85) than the intel one. The 4590t may be more power efficient, but that's taking performance numbers into account. I think intel should pull more power than the amd kabini system.

 

[Jen]

HP EliteDesk 800 G1 specs: http://shopping1.hp.com/is-bin/INTE...Bv&CatalogCategoryID=exoQ7hac3gEAAAFBXwwoJAnG

You can't find real power consumption numbers(only intel's tdp) of the 4590t but,

The HP EliteDesk 800 G1 comes with a 4590t and it is fitted with only a 65w power supply. Assuming hp did their maths right and possibly left some room for safety, the entire 4590t platform does not seem to be that power hungry.

Then you'll need about 75w max for that motherboard's pci-e slot. You should be safe with that 150w max. Maybe that pico+power brick combo does not work well as advertised and their numbers may be inflated.
Can't you just test with a "normal" 300w psu? You could end up throwing away a functional gpu... when in reality it could be that pico power delivery combo that should be thrown away.

PS: I don't get it how the kabini system pulls more wattage(90 watts vs 85) than the intel one. The 4590t may be more power efficient, but that's taking performance numbers into account. I think intel should pull more power than the amd kabini system.

the problem with the intel setup and the 750ti is i could never reach full wattage before it would crash out. its a TDR issue from what I am finding out with alot of research . the solution is many different ideas and some that work for a few and others who just deal with the issue. i will today try a spare powersupply i have to test this without the pico setup. also will attempt a few more fixs that some have used to fix this issue.

several fixs has been from

registry edit adding tdr delay to geforce which did help some but i could never get it to work right

changing adaptive power in nividia control panel to performance this was the biggest help but didnt fix the problem

changing the windows to performance

removing the extended .net drivers which i havent tried some think this is part of the issue.

there is a hot fix geforce drive which didnt fix for me

there is a microsoft fix it for the card which i need to see what it does .


however the computer case i have doesnt accept a standard powersupply as i like small cases.

i'm just thinking in the end i will have to buy a short amd video card and be done with it . just need to find one that is similar performance to this card without 6 pin connector

 

[Jen]

the microsoft fix i beleive has fixed the problem . at least 3dmark did finish this time without nividia kernal error. thats useing the pico setup as well. killawatt reports highest useage at 110 watts.

link to fix if anyone ever has this problem as it may help you

http://support2.microsoft.com/kb/2665946/en-us


Jen