EVGA 7900GT CO Superlock

peleejosh

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Originally posted by: Extelleron
What did you expect? It's nVidia rushing out a product once again.


How is artifacting ram realted to nvidia "rushing out" a product? I would say that if the ram were runnning at nvidia spec speed, then there would be no artifacting. Evga is the one who overclocks the crap out of the core and ram, not nvidia. What proof do you have of nvidia "rushing out" the 7900gt series?
 
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Hmm, i bought two of the SC cards on launch day and have not had any artifacting probs here... isnt terribly surprising though considering no stock memory cooling and very high mem clocks.
 

Topweasel

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Originally posted by: Extelleron
What did you expect? It's nVidia rushing out a product once again.

Troll STFU.

OP yeah the SC and a few GTXs seem to be running just a little to high. Although at the prices of the 7900GT for me it would be worth it to go through one or two RMAs and to get a good one. Though I should note that we really whould be getting them on our first attempt.

Edit side comment.

It seems that these cards are really only limited on voltage with the clocks that they set it to. If only manufacturers wouldn't stick to the ref boards this wouldn't be and issue and they would pump 1.3-1.4 which should be safe.
 

LostTime77

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Art - You're one of the lucky ones then. Many MANY people are having trouble with the first batch of cards, like I am. I just hope EVGA sends me a card from the second batch with good ram that can handle that overclock. PS. I tried underclocking my ram.... and well... lets just say my card really hates me and WILL NOT let me change the clock settings. Everytime I do, the monitor goes black after about 10 seconds and I have to restart.
 

Extelleron

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Originally posted by: Topweasel
Originally posted by: Extelleron
What did you expect? It's nVidia rushing out a product once again.

Troll STFU.

OP yeah the SC and a few GTXs seem to be running just a little to high. Although at the prices of the 7900GT for me it would be worth it to go through one or two RMAs and to get a good one. Though I should note that we really whould be getting them on our first attempt.

Edit side comment.

It seems that these cards are really only limited on voltage with the clocks that they set it to. If only manufacturers wouldn't stick to the ref boards this wouldn't be and issue and they would pump 1.3-1.4 which should be safe.

Are you denying there are problems with the 7900? The X1900's work fine on almost every occassion, but it seems like one in 3-4 people has a problem with their 7900GT/GTX.

 

Extelleron

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Originally posted by: Topweasel
Originally posted by: Extelleron
What did you expect? It's nVidia rushing out a product once again.

Troll STFU.

OP yeah the SC and a few GTXs seem to be running just a little to high. Although at the prices of the 7900GT for me it would be worth it to go through one or two RMAs and to get a good one. Though I should note that we really whould be getting them on our first attempt.

Edit side comment.

It seems that these cards are really only limited on voltage with the clocks that they set it to. If only manufacturers wouldn't stick to the ref boards this wouldn't be and issue and they would pump 1.3-1.4 which should be safe.

*double post*

 

firewolfsm

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The stock cooler can't handle higher voltages, and an overvolted 7900GT is basically a 7900GTX which would ruin the point of having an overpriced flagship card ;}
 

russki

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that's because of evga's poor quality control. they have shipped cards with stock clocks when they should be 500/1500, or higher. they have clocked those cards way too high.
by the way I have a 7900gt from biostar that clocks to 650
 

Topweasel

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Originally posted by: Extelleron
Originally posted by: Topweasel
Originally posted by: Extelleron
What did you expect? It's nVidia rushing out a product once again.

Troll STFU.

OP yeah the SC and a few GTXs seem to be running just a little to high. Although at the prices of the 7900GT for me it would be worth it to go through one or two RMAs and to get a good one. Though I should note that we really whould be getting them on our first attempt.

Edit side comment.

It seems that these cards are really only limited on voltage with the clocks that they set it to. If only manufacturers wouldn't stick to the ref boards this wouldn't be and issue and they would pump 1.3-1.4 which should be safe.

Are you denying there are problems with the 7900? The X1900's work fine on almost every occassion, but it seems like one in 3-4 people has a problem with their 7900GT/GTX.

Did I deny it No. I said the problem is (and most people and Nvidia is agreeing with this) is that the few people who have been having 7900 Problems have been due to the clock speeds that the card manufacturer chooses to run them at. Normally clocked cards have been near problemless. The fact that when voltage is increased the GTs even with stock cooling seem to have huge headrooms it implies that cooling is not the issue but voltage is. I think that in the Superclocks if voltage was increased slightly (1/10th of a volt) that these problems would go away and much more would pass QC with flying colors. But this would require modifying the board design and seems to be currently passe. If EVGA and XFX would have tighter QC processes for their super high clocked cards then this wouldn't be an issue and they can just binning these as the slower cards. Keep in mind that while there is an abnormally large ammount of bad super high clocked cards that are bad it is far from an empidemic and many/the majority of cards are fine.

As for problems with the X1900 product lines. I haven't heard of any seriously reoccuring issues but then again I don't go digging for this stuff.

Edit back to the troll: Like I said above I did not deny the problem and I even posted about the problem in the text you quoted. My only remark was in regards your assumtion that this is a Nvidia issue and that it was because of rushing out a product. but I will give you some credit. Nvidia did give them short time between getting chips and the hard release date, but if the manufacturers needed a couple extra shipments to hit their desired ratio of SC and other super high clocked cards they should have released their non-OC'd and Medium OC'd cards at first and then waited a week or two for the SC like products.
 

imported_ST

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Originally posted by: Extelleron
Originally posted by: Topweasel
Originally posted by: Extelleron
What did you expect? It's nVidia rushing out a product once again.

Troll STFU.

OP yeah the SC and a few GTXs seem to be running just a little to high. Although at the prices of the 7900GT for me it would be worth it to go through one or two RMAs and to get a good one. Though I should note that we really whould be getting them on our first attempt.

Edit side comment.

It seems that these cards are really only limited on voltage with the clocks that they set it to. If only manufacturers wouldn't stick to the ref boards this wouldn't be and issue and they would pump 1.3-1.4 which should be safe.

Are you denying there are problems with the 7900? The X1900's work fine on almost every occassion, but it seems like one in 3-4 people has a problem with their 7900GT/GTX.

5150..err Ex....ever occur to you it might be a problem with a specific board vendor? I've had 2 Asus 7900GTs now, dead rock solid with no issues at all...and yes we don't here as much issues with X1900s, because frankly there aren't as many owners out there...but if you look carefully they have issues to. Seems like the only ones that really quibble about these issues are actualy ATI fanbois....too funny...

 

Arkane13131

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its not evga or nvidia's fault. its samsung's fault... they are the ones who manufactured the ram. my first superclock artifacted... evga crossed shipped me a new one at absolutly 0$ cost. the new one works great. only time i have seen the ram artifact was at 2000 mhz LoL
 

shabby

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Looking at that screenshot i would say everything looks normal... mainly because the game looks so bad
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: Extelleron
What did you expect? It's nVidia rushing out a product once again.

no its not Nvidia... this is Evga issues...

XFX and BFG arnt having any issues...

in fact XFX actually outperforming Evga super clocks with thier XXX line
 

cronic

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i have had mine evga sc since the day after they launced and have had zero issues. actually my cards hold the current wr on 3dmark06 and held the wr in 05 until a few days ago, which i will soon retake.
i hate that some people are having issues, but not all of the first batch have those issues.
 

gi0rgi0

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I think its an evga problem. I had a 7800 that needed a bios update as soon as i got it and then it couldnt oc worth sh!t.
 

samduhman

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Ive had mine but havent had time to test it in games. Been fighting a hard drive issue. Are there any particular games and/or settings I can check this out real quick? I don't think I have the one your playing OP.
 

Arkane13131

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ITS A SAMSUNG ISSUE THE RAM IS INCONSISTENT.

stop blaming evga and nvidia... they dont have anything to do with making the ram.
 

nitromullet

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Well. I'll offer a different perspective....

I just picked up two 7900GT CO SC's to replace my X1900XTX because it has begun artifacting on a pretty regular basis. I first noticed a few "sparkles" on my desktop after exiting games from time-to-time, then it began in 3DMark, and now I get artifacts in Oblivion regularly. The sucktastic part is that I can't bring it to Monarch anymore because I didn't buy their warrantee coverage (they only honor DOA for 5 days without it), and HIS only refers back to Monarch for RMA on their website. I will miss HDR + AA definitely, and this was a sweet card when it worked properly, but I really am not too keen on picking up another X1900XTX because of this. I considered it, but the "great deal" aspect of the fairly cheap XTX's at Monarch loses its magic a bit if you have to pay extra for warrantee service because the manufacturer has poor service. With eVGA, I'm not worried about them taking care of me if there are any problems because I've dealt with them before, so I don't have to buy additional coverage.
 

Arkane13131

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damn bro.. thats terrible. i cant believe HIS wont replace the card...

the main reason i bought from evga is their lifetime warranty... and their great service. I mean.. i had an artifacting card.. i called them... they send me a new one... no questions asked. and it stays that way for life.. even if you OC your card and blow it up your damn self. (assuming you didnt volt mod it by changing the physical structure of the card)
 

Arkane13131

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Originally posted by: nitromullet
Well. I'll offer a different perspective....

I just picked up two 7900GT CO SC's to replace my X1900XTX because it has begun artifacting on a pretty regular basis. I first noticed a few "sparkles" on my desktop after exiting games from time-to-time, then it began in 3DMark, and now I get artifacts in Oblivion regularly. The sucktastic part is that I can't bring it to Monarch anymore because I didn't buy their warrantee coverage (they only honor DOA for 5 days without it), and HIS only refers back to Monarch for RMA on their website. I will miss HDR + AA definitely, and this was a sweet card when it worked properly, but I really am not too keen on picking up another X1900XTX because of this. I considered it, but the "great deal" aspect of the fairly cheap XTX's at Monarch loses its magic a bit if you have to pay extra for warrantee service because the manufacturer has poor service. With eVGA, I'm not worried about them taking care of me if there are any problems because I've dealt with them before, so I don't have to buy additional coverage.



here dude...

About warranty
All HIS graphic cards carry one year warranty. For more warranty information, you can contact your local retailer or regional distributor.


now tell HIS customer service that monarch refuses to honor this 1 year warranty and ask them what you can do. because obviously it hasnt been a year.

did you purchase the card OEM? or in retail box?
dont just chalk up 500$+ to a loss.. HIS will replace the card if you purchased it in a retail box... you just gotta hastle them. LoL send me the card and ill do it LOL cuz thats way too nice to let go like that..after you didnt get very much use out of it... (not even a year)
 

nitromullet

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retail box...

it isn't quite as simple as all that...

now tell HIS customer service that monarch refuses to honor this 1 year warranty and ask them what you can do. because obviously it hasnt been a year.

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Who am I supposed to call...? Someone in Hong Kong?

dont just chalk up 500$+ to a loss.. HIS will replace the card if you purchased it in a retail box... you just gotta hastle them. LoL send me the card and ill do it LOL cuz thats way too nice to let go like that..after you didnt get very much use out of it... (not even a year)

It's been like a week... I have not given up, but I have gotten new video cards... No matter how this goes it will take some time, and I really kind of need a video card.
 

Praxis1452

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If the card is artifacting tell them that they had better cover it. If it's retail they MUST honor it. If it's oem monarch would provide the warranty to a decent extent like 1 month I should think.
 
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