eVGA 7900GTX vs. Sapphire X1900XTX

[LittleNemoNES]

Originally posted by: jack bauer
http://sg.vr-zone.com/?i=3335&s=13

what about these results? How can the 7900GTX do so much better with only 24 piplines compared to X19000XT 48 pipelines or more (I forget) These results show the geforce in top form and I though the new radeons ran better than the GTXs

I guess now the real question is this:

7900GTX (~530 bucks) worth the less noise but more heat?
X1900XT (~420 bucks) better graphics but runs hot?

I don't like the fact that on that bench, they used performance settings... Who the hell pays so much money for a card only to play games plagued with texture shimmering and less than great GFX? Also they're using catalyst 6.2 @ a time when 6.3 were out.

The results are also a little atypical of what most people report -- ATI winning most benchs @ HQ settings.

 

[JBT]

Originally posted by: jack bauer
http://sg.vr-zone.com/?i=3335&s=13

what about these results? How can the 7900GTX do so much better with only 24 piplines compared to X19000XT 48 pipelines or more (I forget) These results show the geforce in top form and I though the new radeons ran better than the GTXs

I guess now the real question is this:

7900GTX (~530 bucks) worth the less noise but more heat?
X1900XT (~420 bucks) better graphics but runs hot?

the X1900XT only has 16 pipes, it has 48 shader units. 7900's have 24 pipes and 2224 units. Either way don't pay any attention to specs they are different architectures so they are really hard to compare. Just go by the benchmarks.

 

[Dainas]

Ultimately I'd say go with the X1900XT, it performs better where its vital anyways (HDR+AA and high-resolution gaming with 2XAA+anis).... well enough to make the price difference for the 7900GTX rediculous.

 

[Sonikku]

X1900XT.

Better performance and better IQ for a better price.

 

[CP5670]

I'm in the same situation as the OP and am probably going with one of the ATI cards. The 7900 GTX actually performs better in all the games I play (although in Q mode; the exact performance hit caused by HQ is still unclear), but the X1900XT and even the XTX have a significant price advantage. I don't care about HDR+AA, but the HQ AF and software voltage adjustments sound very appealing and the noise is not a big deal for me if it's fairly quiet in windows, which appears to be the case. Now I'm just trying to see if I can get in on a good ebay deal for one of them.

 

[jack bauer]

will the eVGA 7900GTX come down in price soon? O ya, and how does this sucker fit? It's huge.

 

[LittleNemoNES]

the x1900xt is available today for 450 (God damn ATI has the worst marketing ever! TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS SITUATION, YOU GOONS!)

 

[Sonikku]

Originally posted by: jack bauer
will the eVGA 7900GTX come down in price soon?

In a months time you might be able to find one instock for MSRP.

 

[jack bauer]

What about the heat problem with the X1900XT? Is it really as bad as I read?

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Ackmed

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
If you care about noise i would go with the EVGA 7900GT CO. Single slot, copper heat sink, covers the ram as well compared to the noise stock cooler.

The 7900GT is much louder than the 7900GTX. If someone cares about noise too much to consider the X1800 or X1900 series, then the 7900GT needs the same consideration.

Then he might as well get the 7900GTX as it is quieter than all of them. Unless he goes with aftermarket cooling. Then take your pick.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Sonikku

Originally posted by: jack bauer
will the eVGA 7900GTX come down in price soon?

In a months time you might be able to find one instock for MSRP.

Heres one: Link

489.69 + 5.89 to ship.

Another: Link

499.51 + ??? for shipping

And another: Link

505.00 free shipping

 

[fierydemise]

Originally posted by: jack bauer
What about the heat problem with the X1900XT? Is it really as bad as I read?

There isn't a heat problem with the card, it just runs a little hotter then some people are comfortable with. I haven't seen any reports of heat issues with either the X1900XT or XTX even when overclocked.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: fierydemise

Originally posted by: jack bauer
What about the heat problem with the X1900XT? Is it really as bad as I read?

There isn't a heat problem with the card, it just runs a little hotter then some people are comfortable with. I haven't seen any reports of heat issues with either the X1900XT or XTX even when overclocked.

I think it was the folks who tried the VF700 aftermarket cooler. They said it wasn't enough to cool the card. Don't quote me, I could be wrong with the model of the cooler.

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: fierydemise

Originally posted by: jack bauer
What about the heat problem with the X1900XT? Is it really as bad as I read?

There isn't a heat problem with the card, it just runs a little hotter then some people are comfortable with. I haven't seen any reports of heat issues with either the X1900XT or XTX even when overclocked.

I think it was the folks who tried the VF700 aftermarket cooler. They said it wasn't enough to cool the card. Don't quote me, I could be wrong with the model of the cooler.

If the heatsink is stock then it is covered under warrenty. CPU/GPU's can generaly take a lot more thermal punishment than you might believe (many can operate up to +95°c) . If any heat reated issues ever arise then your warrenty should cover it and you will get a free replacement. So in otherwords do not worry about it./

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Googer

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: fierydemise

Originally posted by: jack bauer
What about the heat problem with the X1900XT? Is it really as bad as I read?

There isn't a heat problem with the card, it just runs a little hotter then some people are comfortable with. I haven't seen any reports of heat issues with either the X1900XT or XTX even when overclocked.

I think it was the folks who tried the VF700 aftermarket cooler. They said it wasn't enough to cool the card. Don't quote me, I could be wrong with the model of the cooler.

If the heatsink is stock then it is covered under warrenty. CPU/GPU's can generaly take a lot more thermal punishment than you might believe (many can operate up to +95°c) . If any heat reated issues ever arise then your warrenty should cover it and you will get a free replacement. So in otherwords do not worry about it./

I wouldn't be worried, and I agree with you and the warranty. But it would concern overclockers I would imagine.

 

[Praxis1452]

well oc's usually use aftermarket cooler :-D

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
well oc's usually use aftermarket cooler :-D

And then what happens to your warranty. Hey!! A Paradox!!

I mean, if I was going to overclock an X1900XT/XTX and was going to change the stock cooler and throw my warranty out the window, then I would probably go all out with a water cooling system. Might as well as these cards run in the 90C range and thats supposed to be fine, though I have never seen confirmation from ATI that this was a perfectly safe operating temperature. I'm sure one of you could provide this info.
To me, 90C is smoking hot whether or not the card can run there safely. I would rather it run somewhere in the 50 to 60C range under a waterblock and be confident that it is running nice and "cool". But that's just me. The cooler, the better for o/c'ers.

 

[jack bauer]

Does anyone here have an eVGA 7900GTX? If so, what are your opinions? Have a friend who has a X1900XT for comparision?

I think I'm going with the X1900XT because it's 420 bucks on newegg. But, my last ATI card sucked (9600XT) and my old geforce rocked (one from 4 years ago), so I guess I just kinda have a bias too. My mobo is also going to be a A8N32, and if I buy a X1900, I can't crossfire and I'm pretty set on this board, love the features not to mention the looks.

 

[Praxis1452]

Why not A8R32?

 

[Praxis1452]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
well oc's usually use aftermarket cooler :-D

And then what happens to your warranty. Hey!! A Paradox!!

I mean, if I was going to overclock an X1900XT/XTX and was going to change the stock cooler and throw my warranty out the window, then I would probably go all out with a water cooling system. Might as well as these cards run in the 90C range and thats supposed to be fine, though I have never seen confirmation from ATI that this was a perfectly safe operating temperature. I'm sure one of you could provide this info.
To me, 90C is smoking hot whether or not the card can run there safely. I would rather it run somewhere in the 50 to 60C range under a waterblock and be confident that it is running nice and "cool". But that's just me. The cooler, the better for o/c'ers.

Hey cmon :-D anybody who volt mods loses their warranty... with nvidia if I'm not mistaken. eVGA will allow you to use aftermarket coolers but they have to... I mean cmon look at those wimply coolers. The ATI cooler is a beast loud but only so because htye have so much heat. So both have ups and down.

 

[jack bauer]

Is the X1900XT really as loud and hot as people say? Loudest card ever? Temps up to 95C???

 

[fierydemise]

Originally posted by: jack bauer
Is the X1900XT really as loud and hot as people say? Loudest card ever? Temps up to 95C???

It is a loud card, maybe not as loud as the infamous dust buster but still pretty bad, and it does run hot (80C-90C) but if you grab an XT you'll have money to spare on an aftermarket cooler and as I said earlier I haven't heard of any heat related issues with the stock cooler at stock or OCed.

 

[jack bauer]

you mean like a zelman VF700 or something similar? would that quiet the card down a bit too?

 

[fierydemise]

Originally posted by: jack bauer
you mean like a zelman VF700 or something similar? would that quiet the card down a bit too?

An aftermarket cooler like the VF700 would quiet the card down signifigantly but it might also cause heat problems because the card runs hot. Before getting any aftermarket cooler you should definately check to see if anyone has had problems with that cooler not providing enough cooling.

 

[Praxis1452]

Accellero X2 ftw