EVGA 9800 GTX+

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http://www.evga.com/products/m...%209%20Series%20Family

 

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[krnmastersgt]

Bout time too, I've been waiting for the damn thing to come out since the news that came with the 4850 launch. Now to see what the vendors decide to do to the price.

 

[chizow]

Well, Zap dropped a nugget yesterday hinting the 9800GTX+ might be scrapped? I don't know what's going on with BFG honestly, not sure if they've announced any cash back similar to XFX/EVGA on the GTX 260/280, but their cards are still at original MSRP on Newegg. Fud had some rumors about one of NV's board partners being on the verge of collapse a while ago...hopefully its not BFG as they've always been one of the best card vendors around.

 

[krnmastersgt]

Hopefully its PNY or Zotac

 

[Magusigne]

Maybe we will see BFG HD4870's! WOOT :Q

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: chizow
Well, Zap dropped a nugget yesterday hinting the 9800GTX+ might be scrapped?

Huh? You mean what I said in nRollo's thread? That was because as of yesterday (when I posted) there was still an embargo on the GTX+.

Originally posted by: chizowI don't know what's going on with BFG ... their cards are still at original MSRP on Newegg. Fud had some rumors about one of NV's board partners being on the verge of collapse a while ago...hopefully its not BFG as they've always been one of the best card vendors around.

AFAIK it isn't BFG. I don't know why BFG GTX 2XX cards are so high priced at Newegg. We checked pricing yesterday and were scratching our heads over it. Then again Newegg still claims the BFG LS-series power supplies have a lifetime warranty (they don't, only a 5 year). We've made repeated requests to them to fix that, but they still haven't weeks later.

On the flip side, BFG has the lowest priced 8800 GTS 512MB on Newegg, at $160 AR FS.

 

[raddreamer3kx]

where the heck are these cards?

 

[natty1]

Originally posted by: raddreamer3kx
where the heck are these cards?

yea when does this actually come out

 

[Larrymon2000]

Paper launch/cancelled?

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: Larrymon2000
Paper launch/cancelled?

You can pre-order them on EVGA.com right now for $199

 

[raddreamer3kx]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: Larrymon2000
Paper launch/cancelled?

You can pre-order them on EVGA.com right now for $199

yea but when will they be released,lol.

 

[faye]

any reviews saying the performance of 9800GTX+ yet?
4850 or 260 or GTX+ faster?

 

[shangshang]

I'm interested in a review pitting two 9800GTX+'s in SLI against two 4850 in CF.

Also, would be nice to test them in games with both Physx and Havoc enabled. I have a strong feeling that a 9800GTX+ SLI setup will own any Physx games, and I am truely looking forward to the next release of games to take advantage of Physx. Physx just seems like a great advantage for any serious game developer to not take advantage of it. I'm going to wait and see.

 

[g00n]

I've been waiting to pull the trigger on this as well. All my components are here waiting to be built and the only thing missing is the GPU. I'm tempted to just order and OC'd GTX.

Anyway, there is something odd about this EVGA Pre-sale. The MSRP is $199 which is low. The GTX was lowered to 199 and the GTX+ MSRP set by Nvidia was $229. Has this since changed? I know it was a paper launch but how long are we going to have to wait? I need to put a card in here within the next couple of weeks and my patience is wearing thin. An OC'd GTX is just as good Im only waiting for the GTX+ because of the slightly better thermals.

I notice EVGA no longer has any of their good GTX's on newegg now either. The SC and other higher level models they had are gone. The selection of GTX has worsened since the paper launch which is annoying because you know its a profit driving situation. EVGA's SC and other OC'd model were Out of Stock within 1 week of the GTX+ press release and the prices hadn't even come down yet so its not like a price drop dried up supplies...

Is there no solid rumor or press release on when these GTX+ will start to trickle into the retail channel? Also, why would the GTX+ be "scrapped" (as mentioned in a previous post)? That makes no sense at all. They are desperate for something to compete head to head with the Radeon 4850 in the mid-range. If it was scrapped, you wouldnt see a reduction in GTX inventory like we have all over the place.

Update: Another thing I really cant wait for is purchasing a vanilla GTX+ for around $200 and then having a nice factory OC'd one (like EVGA's "SC" line) come out 8 days later for $10 more. I can see it coming... you never can quite avoid getting burned when it comes to PC hardware.

Update 2: I checked EVGA's forums and this was a reply by a admin/employee regarding when we would see the GTX+ @ Newegg.

RE: 9800 GTX+ on Newegg? - 7/16/2008 3:30:54 PM
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EVGATech_JacobF
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Posts: 3268
Status: online
"It will be available next week. "
http://evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=458334

So I assume they are shipping and should be on sale at various places next week...

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: raddreamer3kx

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
You can pre-order them on EVGA.com right now for $199

yea but when will they be released,lol.

When they have enough preorders to make it worth their time to make them


j/k

 

[chizow]

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: chizow
Well, Zap dropped a nugget yesterday hinting the 9800GTX+ might be scrapped?

Huh? You mean what I said in nRollo's thread? That was because as of yesterday (when I posted) there was still an embargo on the GTX+.

Originally posted by: chizowI don't know what's going on with BFG ... their cards are still at original MSRP on Newegg. Fud had some rumors about one of NV's board partners being on the verge of collapse a while ago...hopefully its not BFG as they've always been one of the best card vendors around.

AFAIK it isn't BFG. I don't know why BFG GTX 2XX cards are so high priced at Newegg. We checked pricing yesterday and were scratching our heads over it. Then again Newegg still claims the BFG LS-series power supplies have a lifetime warranty (they don't, only a 5 year). We've made repeated requests to them to fix that, but they still haven't weeks later.

On the flip side, BFG has the lowest priced 8800 GTS 512MB on Newegg, at $160 AR FS.

Ah, I misinterpreted the italicized portion, which I wasn't sure of.

Also glad to see BFG has offered a cash back program, they're definitely a great vendor so its glad to see them join in on the rebate.

 

[krnmastersgt]

The EVGA site confuses me, GTX+ for $199 and the standard vanilla GTX for $329?

 

[raddreamer3kx]

Originally posted by: krnmastersgt
The EVGA site confuses me, GTX+ for $199 and the standard vanilla GTX for $329?

the vanilla prices will soon fall once the gtx+ hits the streets.

 

[krnmastersgt]

But why would the price be that high right now? Newegg is already selling GTXs for ~$200. Although granted, none are EVGA anymore.

 

[g00n]

Originally posted by: krnmastersgt
The EVGA site confuses me, GTX+ for $199 and the standard vanilla GTX for $329?

EVGA doesnt adjust the initial MSRP. That $329 was the original price from when the GTX first came out. Obviously, the market itself has adjusted the price but EVGA has no need to adjust the old, outdated MSRP. The reason the GTX+ is so low in comparison is because Nvidia purposely set it that way to compete with ATi/AMD. We are seeing a great value in the GPU market right now. The competition of the very well rounded Radeon 4850 is helping us all out. To be honest, I almost got one to support competition. In all fairness, on average, the 4850 can be viewed as a faster card too. The only thing I dont like is they run hot. If thats not a concern in your case, then a 4850 right now for about $170 is an amazing deal (probably better than a GTX+).

You can get a GTX (stock clocks) at Newegg right now for $199. The next lowest with lifetime warranty (crucial IMO) is the BFG for $209. EVGA's once plentiful line of SC, KO, etc. clocked line of GTX is conspicuously absent now as well in preparation for GTX+

 

[krnmastersgt]

Originally posted by: g00n

Originally posted by: krnmastersgt
The EVGA site confuses me, GTX+ for $199 and the standard vanilla GTX for $329?

EVGA doesnt adjust the initial MSRP. That $329 was the original price from when the GTX first came out. Obviously, the market itself has adjusted the price but EVGA has no need to adjust it. The reason the GTX+ is so low in comparison is because Nvidia purposely set it that way to compete with ATi/AMD.

You can get a GTX (stock clocks) at Newegg right now for $199. The next lowest with lifetime warranty (crucial IMO) is the BFG for $209. EVGA's once plentiful line of SC, KO, etc. clocked line of GTX is conspicuously absent now as well.

Already noted in my other post. Anyhow if the $199 pre-order is the actual price from EVGA I'll probably be ordering 1, maybe 2, this weekend.

 

[g00n]

Originally posted by: raddreamer3kx

Originally posted by: krnmastersgt
The EVGA site confuses me, GTX+ for $199 and the standard vanilla GTX for $329?

the vanilla prices will soon fall once the gtx+ hits the streets.

I dont think this is the case actually. This is unwise from a business point of view. This is what I have been getting at with my observations of EVGA's current supplies of regular GTX's. EVGA has let them dry up suddenly and will replace that stock with the GTX+ and its SC, KO clocked versions at the $199-220 price point. It would be foolish to keep saturating the market with cheaper $150-170 GTX's. I think you will just see GTX inventory dry up only to be replaced by GTX+ at around the same price level. There are already less GTX models on Newegg and EVGA has NONE in stock or listed - that wasnt an accident. Anything else would be foolish business although it would be cool for the consumer. It is all profit driven. The only chance you will see really low GTX is for those retailers who have a ton of inventory they need to move and nobody is buying them because GTX+ is out. Most places like Newegg have sophisticated automated inventory systems to avoid these scenarios. Vendors will most likely transition fairly well from the GTX stock to the GTX+ while keeping the overall price point right around the same levels.

 

[krnmastersgt]

Originally posted by: g00n

Originally posted by: raddreamer3kx

Originally posted by: krnmastersgt
The EVGA site confuses me, GTX+ for $199 and the standard vanilla GTX for $329?

the vanilla prices will soon fall once the gtx+ hits the streets.

I dont think this is the case actually. This is unwise from a business point of view. This is what I have been getting at with my observations of EVGA's current supplies of regular GTX's. EVGA has let them dry up suddenly and will replace that stock with the GTX+ and its SC, KO clocked versions at the $199-220 price point. It would be foolish to keep saturating the market with cheaper $150-170 GTX's. I think you will just see GTX inventory dry up only to be replaced by GTX+ at around the same price level. There are already less GTX models on Newegg and EVGA has NONE in stock or listed - that wasnt an accident. Anything else would be foolish business although it would be cool for the consumer. It is all profit driven. The only chance you will see really low GTX is for those retailers who have a ton of inventory they need to move and nobody is buying them because GTX+ is out. Most places like Newegg have sophisticated automated inventory systems to avoid these scenarios. Vendors will most likely transition fairly well from the GTX stock to the GTX+ while keeping the overall price point right around the same levels.

Mmm I suppose that makes the most sense to me. Still though, I highly doubt that EVGA's GTX's would sell out completely in a week like that, no reason Newegg shouldn't have some there, unless EVGA stopped shipping them a while back as a move to get ready for the GTX+.