eVGA GeForce 5900 Video cards - Are they OK?

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RanDum72

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Give Instigator a rest guys. He' bought a 5900, he's sticking with it so he needs to justify his purchase. Who cares if the 5900 doesn't play DX9 games that good? To Instigator, he couldn't see the difference and thats all that matters. Some of you will see the difference but, hey, its not your card or your game he's playing with.

But if you ask my opinion, I just sold my GF4 Ti4400 and went shopping around for a used 9600pro/9700pro.......
 

XBoxLPU

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Originally posted by: RanDum72
Give Instigator a rest guys. He' bought a 5900, he's sticking with it so he needs to justify his purchase. Who cares if the 5900 doesn't play DX9 games that good? To Instigator, he couldn't see the difference and thats all that matters. Some of you will see the difference but, hey, its not your card or your game he's playing with.
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We never asked him to justify his purchase

He is the one that is being ignorant
 

wetcat007

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Originally posted by: stranger707
I really don't want to spend the money for an ATI card. Take a look at the price differential. You can get a 9700 Pro at Newegg for $275, and it's performance lags the basic GeForce 5900 significantly. Tom's Hardware did a roundup of current video cards and the stats don't lie"

ATI 9700 Pro Unreal Tournament 159.1 fps $275
GeForce 5900 Unreal Tournament 176.5 fps $237


Why would you pay that much more for so much less performance????????????

ATI Radeon 9800, $240, mod it to be 9800 Pro.

Problem solved.
 

wetcat007

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Originally posted by: stranger707
Thanks, but the 9800 doesn't come close either.

ATI 9800 Pro Unreal Tournament 170.6 fps $306
GeForce 5900 Unreal Tournament 176.5 fps $237

I realize that I may be tweaking a bunch of ATI fans, but $/performance just aint there for ATI.

And shuttleteam, Nomex is only required for the GeForce 5800.

The NP version of 9800. Check out HL2 performance and you'll be chuggin in HL2 with a GF FX. And this is commin from me a nvidiot believe it or not.
 
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Originally posted by: wetcat007
Originally posted by: stranger707
I really don't want to spend the money for an ATI card. Take a look at the price differential. You can get a 9700 Pro at Newegg for $275, and it's performance lags the basic GeForce 5900 significantly. Tom's Hardware did a roundup of current video cards and the stats don't lie"

ATI 9700 Pro Unreal Tournament 159.1 fps $275
GeForce 5900 Unreal Tournament 176.5 fps $237


Why would you pay that much more for so much less performance????????????

ATI Radeon 9800, $140, mod it to be 9800 Pro.

Problem solved.


i hope you mean $240, if you mean $140, i'll take 16 right now
 

wetcat007

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Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: wetcat007
Originally posted by: stranger707
I really don't want to spend the money for an ATI card. Take a look at the price differential. You can get a 9700 Pro at Newegg for $275, and it's performance lags the basic GeForce 5900 significantly. Tom's Hardware did a roundup of current video cards and the stats don't lie"

ATI 9700 Pro Unreal Tournament 159.1 fps $275
GeForce 5900 Unreal Tournament 176.5 fps $237


Why would you pay that much more for so much less performance????????????

ATI Radeon 9800, $140, mod it to be 9800 Pro.

Problem solved.


i hope you mean $240, if you mean $140, i'll take 16 right now

Yeah 240 lol
 

Instigator

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Oh well well. Look at this:

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1896

Man, am I loving this. I'll be posting to each one of you who slammed me about drivers and this card as soon as I get done reading the rest of the article. I hope all you ATI fanboys have on you flame retardent suits. Cause EVERYTHING I stated is confirmed in this article.
I can't tell you how much I'm going to enjoy this! Nothing better than putting you ATIdiots in your place!!! :evil:

It is important to note that anyone out there running the current 45.23 Detonators will get something along the lines of a 65% performance increase with no loss in image quality for the FX series of cards with the new 52 series of drivers due out late this month.

Just alittle something for all you doubters out there! I'm still laughing. This has got to sting!!!!

Nebor, Shady06, Lyfer, MonkeyDriveExpress, Alkaline5, MangoTBG, Goose77, and XBoxLPU you guys must not be feeling really well right now. Gentlemen, class is dismissed. You've been officially schooled.
 
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btw, in the HW 2 IQ "Upon closer inspection, we can see that ATI actually does AA while NVIDIA does not. This is a known issue, and we hope to see it corrected as soon as possible. "
 

Instigator

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awww, I understand Shady06. I would try to do my best to come up with something too after all the crap you gave me, but unfortunately your grasping. Keep bring up HL2. Last time I checked that's 7 months away. Man, I am I loving this.
 

Instigator

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This time we have to point out that ATI has known image quality issues. There have been many complaints from problems with AA to missing/flickering shadows and a lack of shiny water.

Man, you guys really got ripped off. You should sell you cards. If I bought a $300 card like that, I'd be pissed if it had problems with AA to
missing/flickering shadows and a lack of shiny water. Whew, it just keeps getting funnier and funnier all the time.
 

Instigator

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The 52.14 series had the added bonus of smoothing out some random bumps in the road, and image quality is top notch across both drivers.

And it just keeps coming.
 

Instigator

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Unfortunately, future performance can't be predicted until we have games from the future. No one seems to want to lend me a time machine, so I can't get those numbers yet. Looking back though, I can offer this advice: don't spend $500 on a video card until the game you want to play on it comes out.

*cough HL2 cough*
 

Instigator

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The new 52.14 drivers are much better than either the 51.xx or the 45.xx series. The image quality issues are corrected from 51.xx, and a lot of speed has been inked out over the 45.xx drivers. We have actually been very impressed with the speed, image quality, and playability enhancements we have seen. As long as NVIDIA doesn't take a step backwards before the official 50 series drivers are released, we think everyone who owns a GeForce FX card will be very pleased with what they get.

If NVIDIA can continue to extract the kinds of performance gains from unoptimized DX9 code as they have done with the 52.14 drivers (without sacrificing image quality), they will be well on their way to taking the performance crown back from ATI by the time NV40 and R400 drop. NVIDIAs GPU architecture is a solid one, but it just needs to be treated the right way.

ATI is still the recommendation, but NVIDIA is not a bad card to have by any stretch of the imagination. We still urge our readers not to buy a card until the game they want to play shows up on the street.

These quotes speak for themselves. I do believe EVERYTHING I've been posting has been reaffirmed by this article. I was going to post to each individual who slammed me, but I would like to act alittle better that the ATIdiots who said the 5900 is sh1t! Hopefully, we all now know that the 5900 is a VERY VERY good card.
 

sandorski

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A lot of issues raised in the article, but perhaps Nvidia can remain competitive.
 
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Originally posted by: Instigator
awww, I understand Shady06. I would try to do my best to come up with something too after all the crap you gave me, but unfortunately your grasping. Keep bring up HL2. Last time I checked that's 7 months away. Man, I am I loving this.

what crap did i give up? grasping? grasping for what??
i just pointed out one instance where the IQ was messed up and you act like i have offended your family. try not to take these things so seriously

These quotes speak for themselves. I do believe EVERYTHING I've been posting has been reaffirmed by this article. I was going to post to each individual who slammed me, but I would like to act alittle better that the ATIdiots who said the 5900 is sh1t! Hopefully, we all now know that the 5900 is a VERY VERY good card.

can u point out anyone who called the 5900 sh1t?

also, a little bit of advice, try not to get a hard on over a video card
 

Alkaline5

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Originally posted by: Instigator
Oh well well. Look at this:

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1896

Nebor, Shady06, Lyfer, MonkeyDriveExpress, Alkaline5, MangoTBG, Goose77, and XBoxLPU you guys must not be feeling really well right now. Gentlemen, class is dismissed. You've been officially schooled.

Hey, all I said was that you should shut yer piehole and wait for the article. (see below)

Originally posted by: Alkaline5

Until Anand's Part2 comes out and says "the Det 52's were written by magic pixies so that they do not compromise IQ for speed" you just don't know for sure so quit preaching it as if it were fact.

This just in: "Det 52's written by magic pixies," says Anand!
 

Instigator

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Let me refresh your memory with the quote from MangoTGB, which is on the first page:

Out with the old (Nebor), in with the new (Instigator). I love nVidiots.


Btw I payed $250 for my 9800 non-pro. Excuse me. I mean 9800pro, since I flashed the bios and overclocked a weeeee bit. But, hey! Enjoy your 5900. I know I enjoy the fact that you spent money on sh1t.

Good enough.

Now for your quote:

i guess my standards in hardware are higher than yours. when i spend 300+ dollars on a card i expect it to run ALL the games including HL2 esp since many people built gaming rigs for the particular reason of playing HL2. and there will be more games based on the HL2 engine,. doom III huh? that game is so far from being released god knows what'll happen from now to then. and i dont see how yours of experiance in buying hardware leads you to believe the 5900 will run HL2 just fine when it comes out, not logical at all

Saying you have a higher standard than me is called giving me crap. Duh?
And that's just one of your quotes. If you don't like the heat stay out of the kitchen. I backed up my statements and I was proven right. Sorry you don't like it, but that's your problem.
 

Instigator

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Alkaline5,
Here's your quote. Damn, it's funny how easily people forget:

Instigator, you are being overly optimistic about NVIDIA. What makes you so confident in them after all the times they screwed up in the last year? You just want to assume that your 5900 will look just as good as a 9800 in DX9 (that's called "buyer's remorse", btw). Until Anand's Part2 comes out and says "the Det 52's were written by magic pixies so that they do not compromise IQ for speed" you just don't know for sure so quit preaching it as if it were fact.

I've been waiting for this. "Buyer's remorse" wonder who has that now. I believe Anandtech just shut your pie hole! Lesson over.
 
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hmmm, i never thought of that as giving u crap but i guess thats just a difference in opinion.


edit: you may want to be a little less hostile.
 

Instigator

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hmmm, i never thought of that as giving u crap but i guess thats just a difference in opinion.

Every wonder if that's why you get the responses you do? Last time I checked telling someone you have high standard than them is a slam. And the best part is you still can admit you were WRONG about DX9 and the 5900.
 
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Originally posted by: Instigator
hmmm, i never thought of that as giving u crap but i guess thats just a difference in opinion.

Every wonder if that's why you get the responses you do? Last time I checked telling someone you have high standard than them is a slam. And the best part is you still can admit you were WRONG about DX9 and the 5900.

you make it seem like i consider myself to be on a higher level than others. which is certainly not true. and i usually dont get any negative responses
 
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Originally posted by: Instigator
I don't need to do that. You care take of that just fine with your responses.

you keep thinking that. please stop reading more into a response than there really is
 
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