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VRMs at 96°C are a problem?
Measurements were made on a open test bench.Well, the VRMs must be hotter as they were not able to measure them directly. That measurement was just in the vicinity of the VRMs.
Because thats where the mosfets are underneath the front plate. But the problem is that there isn't any thermal tape on the mosfets so there is a layer of air btwn the front plate and the mosfets so what he's doing isn't helping at all. The official instructions say to place the tape on the chokes which will help more to dampen coil whine (if any) rather than conduct excess heat but at least it helps.http://forums.evga.com/How-to-apply-the-Thermal-Pads-for-the-10701080-Cards-m2573413.aspx
So why is EVGA telling users to put a thermal pad on the top of the MMCP as well?
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I can understand the back because it makes contact with the backplate, but why the front on top of the MMCP?
Yep this is what I read too but don't plan on running Furmark or 3dmark anytime soon. I don't even get what the point of these programs are.
Furmark is not the only problem. Running a 3dmark benchmark will cause the VRM temps to shoot to 96C. See the previous post #60.
Its not just a few cards since your previous post quoted:
EVGA ACX 3.0 GeForce GTX 1080, 1070 or 1060 cards with the following part numbers:So its every EVGA Pascal card with the ACX cooler including 1060 models because they do not cool the VRMs. And from the OP, EVGA took quite a bit of prodding before taking action.
GTX 1080 GTX 1070 GTX 1060 6G GTX 1060 3G
08G-P4-6181 08G-P4-5171 06G-P4-6262 03G-P4-6365
08G-P4-6183 08G-P4-5173 06G-P4-6366 03G-P4-6367
08G-P4-6284 08G-P4-6171 06G-P4-6265
08G-P4-6286 08G-P4-6173 06G-P4-6264
08G-P4-6384 08G-P4-6274 06G-P4-6267
08G-P4-6386 08G-P4-6276 06G-P4-6368
06G-P4-6167
06G-P4-6165
96C is what the VRM's run with the fix applied when running furmark.
The cards were overheating with the VRM's at 109C while running furmark.
Please watch the entire video. especially towards the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URyG1OP8p8I
no the reviewer is not sponsored by Evga.Your link is about a youtube reviewer sponsored by EVGA. I was referring to a guru3d article using an expensive Eur10k flir camera showing 96C:
https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/evga_geforce_gtx_1070_sc_superclocked_gaming_review,10.html
The mosfets are close to the memory chips so its not good for them to get that hot even if they are 'in spec'.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/evga-addresses-geforce-1080-temperature-problems,32967.html
I am referring to the earlier measurement by Guru3D of an EVGA 1070SC during their normal review when the card was released, where no other 1070 was even close.Measurements were made on a open test bench.
the guru review shows the temps above 96C when running furmark.
So with the cards fully stressed we kept monitoring temperatures and noted down the GPU temperature as reported by the thermal sensor.
These tests have been performed with a 20~21 Degrees C room temperature. Bear in mind that a lot of the time during gaming our temps sit at just below 70 Degrees C, this is a peak temperature based on a FireStrike loop.
- The card's temperature under heavy game stress stabilized at roughly 72 Degrees C. We note down the hottest GPU reading, not the average.
Yes, and the measurements were made on an open test bench, hence real usage values will be influenced by case airflow (for better or worse). Wonder if even card orientation matters enough to tip the scales in some scenarios.I am referring to the earlier measurement by Guru3D of an EVGA 1070SC during their normal review when the card was released, where no other 1070 was even close.
It will be interesting to know how people in other countries get there card fixed that don't have the free Advanced RMA
Does the replacement card have thermal pads, or the bios update. It's not clear from your post. I read it as you can get a replacement card that has the bios updated.You don't need to flash the bios. please read my post.
Install you own free thermal pads
OR
Free new card with thermal pads.
no the reviewer is not sponsored by Evga.
it shows the before and after temps when the fix is applied.
the guru review shows the temps above 96C when running furmark.
Starting next week we will ship thermal grease, memory thermal pads, along with PWM thermal pads in the package. It is recommended to remove the existing grease on GPU and memory pads and apply the new ones. For any customers that did not receive memory thermal pads, please contact us so we can arrange it.
OK, so I decided to advance RMA all 3 of my cards. Took about 20 minutes on the phone, including creating and uploading my invoice copies. FOR 3 CARDS.
Happy so far, I will reply back as it goes on. I decided to not fight all the work to do them, the VRAM pads, the VBIOS and maybe having the wrong pad thickness. This ends it all.
OK, so I decided to advance RMA all 3 of my cards. Took about 20 minutes on the phone, including creating and uploading my invoice copies. FOR 3 CARDS.
Happy so far, I will reply back as it goes on. I decided to not fight all the work to do them, the VRAM pads, the VBIOS and maybe having the wrong pad thickness. This ends it all.
Be sure to let us know how much louder your cards are once they return to you with the new VBIOS applied.
Noise is at ~38.6dB for the GTX 1080 FTW before the VBIOS mod (when the VRM was much hotter), with fan RPM auto-controlled to its peak of around ~1600RPM. The post-VBIOS change (simulated based on EVGA's direct advice to GN, by simply changing the fan RPM to 2200 manually) is at 47.1dB, or a perceived increase that is just shy of 2x to a listener.
Just installing the thermal pads and leaving the fan / BIOS alone, temperature is close to ~85C when probed through the backplate. A direct thermocouple probe to the PCB shows us closer to ~90C, but this is still a significant reduction from the original stock model of the card. With both applied, we're nearing 80C on the back-side.
The left image is before EVGA's BIOS update, the right image is after the BIOS update (more aggressive fan RPM). Between the two, we're seeing a difference of ~14C, resultant of the jump from ~1600RPM to ~2200RPM.
That is not what the tester at Gamers Nexus found.happy medium said:there is no fan noise.
This thread is not about VRMs catching fire. It's about the BIOS specifically.
That is not what the tester at Gamers Nexus found.