Evo V Impreza

[CRXican]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
im sure on topgear the evo absolutely trounced the scooby in a straight line......either top gear or one of them shows clarkson did

Yeah their EVOs do well, though I don't know that they get the precisely same models. In any case at the end of one review they said that although the EVO did better with the numbers they'd rather have the STI, even though they couldn't quite say why.

the STi is bigger and more menacing, more brute force, that's why

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: clarkey01
Which one would you choose ?


Discuss.

Drive them?

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: CRXican
ha, I couldn't care less about your juices.

If you haven't ridden in one or driven on then stay out of this thread.

I agree.

Even though I trust most of the figures I've read, the fact is that I know first hand how quick the Evo is. I was in my friend's brother's Evo when he spanked an STi.

BTW, he hasn't had any problems with his Evo. Nor have I heard anyone in the states with problems, yet. Granted the car hasn't been around very long here, so that is irrelevant. But so is saying that the Subaru is so much more reliable. If you look at Japanese models, its completely different because they replace their motors after 30-50k miles by law.

Overall I would agree that Subaru has better reliability then Mitsubishi, generally speaking. But both of these cars are going to have drivetrain problems, diff's, axles, etc. I can't imagine there would be too much difference in reliability between these two.

Who do you know (addressed to anyone) who has an Evo and has had problems?? There is a strict guidline by the factory for breaking these car's in. I can only imagine that whoever it is didn't adhere to these specifications very well.

 

[Rudee]

All you ever wanted to know about EVO but where afraid to ask

 

[CRXican]

The only problems I've seen occur during racing when pushing the car to hard. However both were highly modded, upgraded cams, turbos, pretty much everything except the block and it's internals. One dropped a valve and was easily reparied. The other destroyed a piston somehow.

The guy who ruined the engine is having it fully built and bored to 2.2 liters. He owns the one in the pics I posted. He also bought an MR to play with. Recently blew up the transfer case. Again, he was racing.

Clutches are also s\itty and need to be replaced quickly. But as for regualr stuff, they hold up well. The guys that don't take theirs to the track like these guys have not had any issues such as this, aside from the clutch thing.

 

[Eli]

I'd take the STi over the Evo anyday.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: AMDZen
No matter what you think, your opinion is not better then mine - you elitist pr!ck.

I'm not using my opinion, you idiot, I'm using facts. Look at the numbers.

..........................................Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR............Subaru Impreza WRX STi
street start, 5-50 mph, dry pavement...............5.0.......................................4.7
street start, 5-50 mph, split-traction surfaces....5.4.......................................4.7
roadholding 300-ft skidpad, g..........................0.92.....................................0.90
increasing slalom*, mph.................................60.9.....................................60.4
decreasing slalom*, mph ...............................57.2.....................................59.4
lap time, sec/mph ....................................75.20/81.4...........................75.05/81.5
autocross time, sec......................................52.8......................................52.8

Look at that Evo dominate.... wow... obviously "way" better, just like you said :roll:

 

[boyRacer]

subaru wins every year for the WRC. I guess the winner is clear.

I've seen them autocross and the car barely got my juices flowing.

Ok.

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: AMDZen
No matter what you think, your opinion is not better then mine - you elitist pr!ck.

I'm not using my opinion, you idiot, I'm using facts. Look at the numbers.

..........................................Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR............Subaru Impreza WRX STi
street start, 5-50 mph, dry pavement...............5.0.......................................4.7
street start, 5-50 mph, split-traction surfaces....5.4.......................................4.7
roadholding 300-ft skidpad, g..........................0.92.....................................0.90
increasing slalom*, mph.................................60.9.....................................60.4
decreasing slalom*, mph ...............................57.2.....................................59.4
lap time, sec/mph ....................................75.20/81.4...........................75.05/81.5
autocross time, sec......................................52.8......................................52.8

Look at that Evo dominate.... wow... obviously "way" better, just like you said :roll:

post the link that you got those numbers from then.

 

[Eli]

lmao @ AMDZen

 

[CRXican]

we know the STi is faster in a straight line

big deal, it has more HP

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: AMDZen
No matter what you think, your opinion is not better then mine - you elitist pr!ck.

I'm not using my opinion, you idiot, I'm using facts. Look at the numbers.

..........................................Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR............Subaru Impreza WRX STi
street start, 5-50 mph, dry pavement...............5.0.......................................4.7
street start, 5-50 mph, split-traction surfaces....5.4.......................................4.7
roadholding 300-ft skidpad, g..........................0.92.....................................0.90
increasing slalom*, mph.................................60.9.....................................60.4
decreasing slalom*, mph ...............................57.2.....................................59.4
lap time, sec/mph ....................................75.20/81.4...........................75.05/81.5
autocross time, sec......................................52.8......................................52.8

Look at that Evo dominate.... wow... obviously "way" better, just like you said :roll:

post the link that you got those numbers from then.

Do you really think the numbers are going to be that different anywhere you look?

This jives with everything I've seen about the two cars; They are more or less equally matched. The Evo does a little better in some areas, and the STi does a little better in some areas.

Obviously everyones tastes are going to be different. If you're in the market for either one, you owe it to yourself to test drive both.

Personally, I would be more interested in the STi simply because Mitsubishi could go tits up any day now though.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: AMDZen
post the link that you got those numbers from then.

LOL... you yourself have quoted the link several times. It's in my first post in this thread. Maybe you should have actually read my post before you attacked me for it?

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: AMDZen
post the link that you got those numbers from then.

LOL... you yourself have quoted the link several times. It's in my first post in this thread. Maybe you should have actually read my post before you attacked me for it?

pwn3d

 

[AMDZen]

Here is the R&T Review

"On paper the Subaru holds the edge; however, at the track, the Evo outran the WRX STi from zero to 60 mph. Both cars recorded smoldering 0-60-mph times ? on a par with some European exotics ? with the Evo clocking 4.8 seconds"

"The braking prowess of the Evo is beyond exceptional. It set a new record from 60 mph, stopping in 108 ft. The Subaru, which uses a similar brake system ? Brembo calipers on vented discs at both front and rear ? also performed admirably, needing only 111 ft. to stop from 60 mph."

"The Evo definitely feels more agile than the WRX STi. It carves and slices where the Subaru just turns."

"The Subaru, with its inverted-strut suspension, didn't feel as crisp as the Mitsubishi. It exhibited more understeer at turn-in, and required more brake pressure before entering tight corners. Despite coming equipped with an active center differential, the Subaru's cornering character was not quite as sharp as the Mitsu's,"

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Eli
Do you really think the numbers are going to be that different anywhere you look?

This jives with everything I've seen about the two cars; They are more or less equally matched. The Evo does a little better in some areas, and the STi does a little better in some areas.

Obviously everyones tastes are going to be different. If you're in the market for either one, you owe it to yourself to test drive both.

Exactly. I've driven both many times (and currently own a non-STi WRX, and used to own an Eclipse GSX) and I can tell you that the difference between them is purely a matter of taste.
Most any race between the 2 stock-for-stock mod-for-mod is going to be a driver's race.

 

[Reckoner]

Well, since Mitsubishi is trying to sell off it's American base, I think the Impreza is the more logical choice

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Well, since Mitsubishi is trying to sell off it's American base, I think the Impreza is the more logical choice

Heh.. Believe it or not, I think this has a big part in the decision making process, at least for those that know.......

Mitsubishi is going to have to pull some hat tricks if it wants to survive...

 

[ArjSiv]

Geez why does any car-related thread turn into a flame war here?

I've never driven or sat in either of these cars, although I've seen them up close. So based soley on looks, I'd go for the EVO mostly because I'm somewhat partial to zippy little cars.

I don't think you can go wrong with either one though, I mean most road tests have them pretty much neck and neck, it all comes down to personal preference. The only worry EVO owners would have is the current financial state of Mitsubishi and how easy it would be to get spare parts.

Regarding the whole grammar flame war... I do somewhat look down upon people who confuse "there", "their" and "they're" as well as "you're" and "your", especially when they try to pass if as a typo, when it cleary isn't, it's a grammar mistake and it surprises me how many people still don't know the difference between these words or have to actually think about which one to use considering I understood the differences back in grade 2/3.

 

[geno]

I hate car threads on ATOT as of late, everyone knows everything, even when they're stupid

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

STi because I'd enjoy it more!

 

[computeerrgghh]

WRX. IMO the Evo looks like roadkill.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: ArjSiv
Geez why does any car-related thread turn into a flame war here?

I've never driven or sat in either of these cars, although I've seen them up close. So based soley on looks, I'd go for the EVO mostly because I'm somewhat partial to zippy little cars.

I don't think you can go wrong with either one though, I mean most road tests have them pretty much neck and neck, it all comes down to personal preference. The only worry EVO owners would have is the current financial state of Mitsubishi and how easy it would be to get spare parts.

Regarding the whole grammar flame war... I do somewhat look down upon people who confuse "there", "their" and "they're" as well as "you're" and "your", especially when they try to pass if as a typo, when it cleary isn't, it's a grammar mistake and it surprises me how many people still don't know the difference between these words or have to actually think about which one to use considering I understood the differences back in grade 2/3.

You get a bunch of people with different opinions together what do you expect?

 

STi all day.

ps. amdzen is a tool.