Ex-Fox News Host Gretchen Carlson Sues Roger Ailes For Sexual Harassment

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pcgeek11

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Ailes may well be a piece of shit in light of recent announcements.

What I do not understand is why didn't they make a fuss about it when it happened years ago? Because they were being paid?

What they were saying in their silence was it is OK as long as I am being paid for it.

Not saying I approve of Ailes actions, quite the opposite. I also disapprove of these women's approval through their years of silence.
 

DougK62

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Ailes may well be a piece of shit in light of recent announcements.

What I do not understand is why didn't they make a fuss about it when it happened years ago? Because they were being paid?

What they were saying in their silence was it is OK as long as I am being paid for it.

Not saying I approve of Ailes actions, quite the opposite. I also disapprove of these women's approval through their years of silence.

Wow
 

UberNeuman

Lifer
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Ailes may well be a piece of shit in light of recent announcements.

What I do not understand is why didn't they make a fuss about it when it happened years ago? Because they were being paid?

What they were saying in their silence was it is OK as long as I am being paid for it.

Not saying I approve of Ailes actions, quite the opposite. I also disapprove of these women's approval through their years of silence.

So... Bitches be cray, amirite?
 

Subyman

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Gotta love going back to the beginning of this thread. Some said Gretchen was too ugly to be sexually assaulted. Truly a moronic stance to take.
 

Jimzz

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Ailes may well be a piece of shit in light of recent announcements.

What I do not understand is why didn't they make a fuss about it when it happened years ago? Because they were being paid?

What they were saying in their silence was it is OK as long as I am being paid for it.

Not saying I approve of Ailes actions, quite the opposite. I also disapprove of these women's approval through their years of silence.


They have anti-disparaging clauses in the contracts and also require arbitration if you have any complaints. So you can't go public, if you do complain its will be decided by a private arbitration meeting paid for by fox, and guess who would never get another contract again no matter the outcome.

The deck is stacked against them from the get go. The only reason she is suing is they did not offer her a new contract so her attorneys believe the anti-disparaging clauses and arbitration parts do not apply anymore. If they did re-sign her she would be stuck under those terms. So right now its up to the courts to see if the case can go forward and if so with so many others coming forward he may have a bad time in court.
 

CitizenKain

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Ailes may well be a piece of shit in light of recent announcements.

What I do not understand is why didn't they make a fuss about it when it happened years ago? Because they were being paid?

What they were saying in their silence was it is OK as long as I am being paid for it.

Not saying I approve of Ailes actions, quite the opposite. I also disapprove of these women's approval through their years of silence.

Because they don't want to be the first one to speak up because they'll be regarded as gold digging whores by people like you.
 

jman19

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Gotta love going back to the beginning of this thread. Some said Gretchen was too ugly to be sexually assaulted. Truly a moronic stance to take.

Not just moronic - but shameful. Victims of abuse come in all forms and to dismiss claims due to appearance alone is disgusting. Just look at a few of the posters who made these statements of course...
 

brycejones

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Not just moronic - but shameful. Victims of abuse come in all forms and to dismiss claims due to appearance alone is disgusting. Just look at a few of the posters who made these statements of course...

This is p&n the victim blaming continues even in light of additional evidence .
 

PottedMeat

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Word circulating presently that Ailes is out with a $40M goodbye.

he could use that money to fix his dick

'He reclined on a couch in a seating area under a map that had flags of all the cities they were syndicated in,' said the woman, identified as Susan.
'He proceeded to pull down his pants and very gingerly pull out his genitals and said, “Kiss them.” And they were red like raw hamburger.'
 

agent00f

Lifer
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Ailes may well be a piece of shit in light of recent announcements.

What I do not understand is why didn't they make a fuss about it when it happened years ago? Because they were being paid?

What they were saying in their silence was it is OK as long as I am being paid for it.

Not saying I approve of Ailes actions, quite the opposite. I also disapprove of these women's approval through their years of silence.

In private industry, unless you're leveling airtight criminal accusations against people more important than you, it will not end well. HR works for the company, not you.
 

Zorba

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Ailes may well be a piece of shit in light of recent announcements.

What I do not understand is why didn't they make a fuss about it when it happened years ago? Because they were being paid?

What they were saying in their silence was it is OK as long as I am being paid for it.

Not saying I approve of Ailes actions, quite the opposite. I also disapprove of these women's approval through their years of silence.

Maybe they were worried that people would claim they were too ugly to be sexually harassed and not believe them. Based on this thread, that would've been a legitimate fear.

Also because unless you have video, and multiple complainants, nobody is going to take down the big boss at any company with allegations and even if they did, their career would soon hit a brick wall.
 

woolfe9998

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Maybe they were worried that people would claim they were too ugly to be sexually harassed and not believe them. Based on this thread, that would've been a legitimate fear.

Also because unless you have video, and multiple complainants, nobody is going to take down the big boss at any company with allegations and even if they did, their career would soon hit a brick wall.

Yes, that, and the fact that Gretchen Carlson got fired, which prompted her to sue. Her allegations then prompted others to come forward. Very likely had they not fired her no one would know anything about this now.
 

John Connor

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They have anti-disparaging clauses in the contracts and also require arbitration if you have any complaints. So you can't go public, if you do complain its will be decided by a private arbitration meeting paid for by fox, and guess who would never get another contract again no matter the outcome.

The deck is stacked against them from the get go. The only reason she is suing is they did not offer her a new contract so her attorneys believe the anti-disparaging clauses and arbitration parts do not apply anymore. If they did re-sign her she would be stuck under those terms. So right now its up to the courts to see if the case can go forward and if so with so many others coming forward he may have a bad time in court.






Something isn't making any damn sense here. So...does Megyn, being the lawyer she is know some magic lawyer stuff to wiggle out of those so-called anti-disparaging clauses and grab Alies' pecans?

I have heard rumors Megyn changed her talent agent and might move to CNN or some shit. Perhaps she wants to exit with a big bang? Wouldn't make any sense with the RNC underway right now quite frankly.

I don't know. To me the media that is printing this stuff may be doing so in an effort to stroke the FoxNews hater's dicks. Feels good doesn't? Instead of looking down look up and see the face that strokes it for once.

As a VERY long term FoxNews viewer I can tell you I'v heard nothing but admiration for Alies. But of course when the cameras go off air and the last studio light goes out who knows what's going on. I'm sure New York window washers have their stories.

Here's some food for thought. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-roger-ailes-sexual-harassment-case-big-time/
 
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John Connor

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http://deadline.com/2016/07/roger-ailes-out-at-fox-news-1201788998/

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/roger-ailes-lawyer-his-exit-912548

Regardless of when and how Ailes and Fox part ways, Delikat says the company will finish the investigation into Carlson's allegations. He notes that it's extremely unusual that she did not sue the company itself, only Ailes, which could give her leverage to get her job back.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/investigators-find-roger-ailes-harassment-912519

She says Ailes removed her from the Fox & Friends morning show in 2013 because she complained that her co-host Steve Doocy created a hostile work environment by engaging in a "pattern and practice of severe and pervasive sexual harassment." Carlson claims that Doocy mocked and belittled her and treated her as a "blond female prop" instead of a journalist. Doocy isn't being sued.
The woman is lying! Steve Doocy?! You have to be kidding me! This guy just isn't the type. No fucking way! It's sad because they always had the Christmas show every year together. Like I said, a big damn money grab.
 
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John Connor

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Me thinks this was all planned.

On second thought. Me thinks woman can be sensitive little pricks and it goes without saying many frivolous lawsuits have gone to court all because of a god damn overly sensitive woman.

I myself lost a job due to a bitch with hurt feelings. It happens to the best of us.

#we-must-not-be-silenced-4-less-than-20-mil

So long as the paycheck came in, she was quite as a church mouse. Just like Megyn.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...-against-roger-ailes-the-truth-should-matter/
 
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pcgeek11

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They have anti-disparaging clauses in the contracts and also require arbitration if you have any complaints. So you can't go public, if you do complain its will be decided by a private arbitration meeting paid for by fox, and guess who would never get another contract again no matter the outcome.

The deck is stacked against them from the get go. The only reason she is suing is they did not offer her a new contract so her attorneys believe the anti-disparaging clauses and arbitration parts do not apply anymore. If they did re-sign her she would be stuck under those terms. So right now its up to the courts to see if the case can go forward and if so with so many others coming forward he may have a bad time in court.

I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty damn sure you cannot place a clause in a contract that is legally binding that says it is OK for the employer to sexually assault an employee. Or to break any other laws.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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Because they don't want to be the first one to speak up because they'll be regarded as gold digging whores by people like you.

I'm damn sure I never said she was a "gold digging whore". I stated my opinion that it appeared to be over sour grapes because she praised him in her book after the events she claimed against him. Further evidence looks to lead in the other direction as I stated above.

I still wonder why they were silent for so long. Money? Fame?
 

agent00f

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I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty damn sure you cannot place a clause in a contract that is legally binding that says it is OK for the employer to sexually assault an employee. Or to break any other laws.

Sexual harassment is a civil issue.

Frankly a lot of people are just naive about employment politics, assume everyone else is just as naive as them, and therefore are in no position to assess this situation.
 

pcgeek11

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Sexual harassment is a civil issue.

Frankly a lot of people are just naive about employment politics, assume everyone else is just as naive as them, and therefore are in no position to assess this situation.


I still say:

I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty damn sure you cannot place a clause in a contract that is legally binding that says it is OK for the employer to sexually assault an employee. Or to break any other laws.

Sexual assault is a crime.
 

agent00f

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I still say:

I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty damn sure you cannot place a clause in a contract that is legally binding that says it is OK for the employer to sexually assault an employee. Or to break any other laws.

Sexual assault is a crime.

At this point you should just google for the difference between sexual assault and harassment. Christ, they're not even spelled the same.
 
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