Ex-Fox News Host Gretchen Carlson Sues Roger Ailes For Sexual Harassment

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Balt

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Really? Sex is half about dominance for a lot of men. This stupidity about a girl not being pretty enough to be sexually harassed is some of the dumbest junk people say.

Bingo.


On a separate note, I don't think it's just random chance that FNC has so many female anchors with great legs that are somehow frequently in the camera shots.
 

Subyman

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Bingo.


On a separate note, I don't think it's just random chance that FNC has so many female anchors with great legs that are somehow frequently in the camera shots.

Short skirts and glass desks. Hmmmm....
 

MongGrel

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I'd have to agree Fox has some of the nicest legs in the faux news business.
 

Zorba

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Months?

http://www.spytronic.com/en-ca/cm-nl10-hidden-camera-in-a-necklace.html



In this day and age women have the ability not only to stand up to sexual harassment in the workplace but destroy the harasser using their own words and actions, as well as not having to deal with misogynistic doubting thomas a-holes such as the one below.

The problem with that is I think it would get you fired at a lot of companies. I know every where I've ever worked would fire you if you were walking around with a spying device. It is a good idea if the company wouldn't can you for it.

Now if you caught some really bad harassment/assault with it, most companies would probably be too scared of the ramifications of firing you.
 

Balt

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Mar 12, 2000
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Six more jumped in, will this be a Cosby level event?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/si...es-of-sexual-harassment/ar-BBu7Vgn?li=BBnbfcL

Honestly I feel for Women news casters, they are dumped the moment they age out of being hot which doesn't happen with the guys.

On Friday, Ailes’ attorney pushed to have the suit moved to arbitration, citing breaches in clauses in Carlson’s employment contract.

I'm guessing an NDA asking you to not disclose sexual harassment wouldn't be valid.
 
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I'm guessing an NDA asking you to not disclose sexual harassment wouldn't be valid.

Correct a employer cannot be released from breaking a law by writing it in a NDA but they can write that language in its just unenforceable
 

senseamp

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It's okay. He just wanted anal.

He may not be much of a looker, but he makes up for it with sheer class.

'He reclined on a couch in a seating area under a map that had flags of all the cities they were syndicated in,' said the woman, identified as Susan.
'He proceeded to pull down his pants and very gingerly pull out his genitals and said, “Kiss them.” And they were red like raw hamburger.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-push-private-arbitration.html#ixzz4Dx6PyVdt
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kage69

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Ugh, if I still ate red meat before reading that I'd wouldn't anymore.


That might do it for me *gag*

Seriously though, that strikes me as an oddly specific description of an unpleasant encounter, but has the added distinction of being something that can be verified. How odd would it be to later have this description confirmed somehow? Gretchen being proven correct would be some good TV. For what business reason might Carlson have knowledge of Ailes' cringe worthy, possibly afflicted junk? Have fun with that defense team!

I doubt it will lead to a Michael Jackson-esque 'genital documentation,' but hey crazier things have happened.

I feel people like Ailes see people like Carlson as targets of opportunity. This has nothing to do with politics. For him it probably doesn't seem like much of a stretch to expect carnal tribute from women that understand a huge part of their job is routinely providing panty shots for the camera. Not surprised a lot of other women have reported similar treatment, but fret not Mr. Ailes, I'm sure it will all work out. Just like with Bill Cosby.
 

Brian Stirling

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Six more jumped in, will this be a Cosby level event?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/si...es-of-sexual-harassment/ar-BBu7Vgn?li=BBnbfcL

Honestly I feel for Women news casters, they are dumped the moment they age out of being hot which doesn't happen with the guys.

Most news casters, male or female, tend not to be old and they tend to be more attractive than average and often much more attractive than average. Yes, the problem is more obvious with women but it applies much the same for men. The simple fact is people, male and female, prefer watching attractive people even if they themselves complain about it.

The business decisions that motivate the replacement of older news casters with younger ones is just that, a business decision. The odds are very high that the older news caster that is being replaced had earlier in there career, when they were younger and more attractive, replaced an older news caster. But, perhaps we can conjure up a SJW program to demand an end to people favoring attractive young people -- good luck with that!


Brian
 

jackstar7

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Thank goodness an SQW* jumped in to really set everyone straight on this.

I mean, let's ignore the actual issue and focus on the tangent, right? I mean it is just another dude abusing his power to show women their place in the professional world, right?




*Status Quo Warrior.
 

Brian Stirling

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Roger Ailes is and has always been a scumbag and I would not put it past him one bit to be the douchnozzle he's been accused of in this story. If there are many others that will come forward as happened to Bill Cosby than it would make the case stronger that he is in fact the scum Carlson says he is. OTH, if she was replaced due to low ratings, whether or not it had anything to do with her getting older and less attractive, and she was later fired as it appears she was then this could be an effort to 'get even' with Fox and particularly the guy running the show.

I'm no fan of FoxNews, nor CNN for that matter, and FoxNews has undeniably utilized sex to gain there audience. It's hard to say what percentage that role has played, but FoxNews is far and away the biggest game in town so on a purely business basis they're doing what works.

But, again, the use of attractive people on a news program is nothing new and is not likely to change anytime soon as even the folks that complain about the use of pretty woman tend to be more inclined to watch such programs when they have pretty women. Pretty hard to repeal human nature...


Brian
 

woolfe9998

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Most news casters, male or female, tend not to be old and they tend to be more attractive than average and often much more attractive than average. Yes, the problem is more obvious with women but it applies much the same for men. The simple fact is people, male and female, prefer watching attractive people even if they themselves complain about it.

The business decisions that motivate the replacement of older news casters with younger ones is just that, a business decision. The odds are very high that the older news caster that is being replaced had earlier in there career, when they were younger and more attractive, replaced an older news caster. But, perhaps we can conjure up a SJW program to demand an end to people favoring attractive young people -- good luck with that!


Brian

The thing is, Gretchen Carlson is only 50. There are numerous female anchors who have persisted to much older ages: Katie Couric, Barbara Walters, Jane Pauley, Connie Cheung, Diane Sawyer (still active at 70), etc. Either Fox News viewers are more shallow than the general population or there's more to this firing than the fact that she is a little less doable than she was 10 years ago.
 

pcgeek11

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I think this is more sour grapes on her part than anything else. She is just angry that her contract wasn't renewed.

Like how she described him in her 2015 book:

But it&#8217;s clear that her allegations against Ailes are quite different than the portrait she painted of him in her 2015 book, &#8220;Getting Real.&#8221; There, the former Miss America described the one-time adviser to Richard Nixon as &#8220;brilliant&#8221; and a key reason she decided to leave her former employer, CBS.

&#8220;I thought Ailes was brilliant,&#8221;

&#8220;In person, Roger was razor sharp and inscrutable and we seemed to have a real connection,&#8221; Carlson added. &#8220;He saw something in me that he liked &#8212; what he called my &#8216;killer instinct.&#8217; He once noted that I would stop at nothing to do the job. He got me. Over the years I&#8217;ve come to value our time together. He encourages me to be myself, to relax and to not try so hard to look smart. &#8216;People know you&#8217;re smart,&#8217; he says.&#8221;
 

woolfe9998

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I think this is more sour grapes on her part than anything else. She is just angry that her contract wasn't renewed.

Like how she described him in her 2015 book:

But it’s clear that her allegations against Ailes are quite different than the portrait she painted of him in her 2015 book, “Getting Real.” There, the former Miss America described the one-time adviser to Richard Nixon as “brilliant” and a key reason she decided to leave her former employer, CBS.

“I thought Ailes was brilliant,”

“In person, Roger was razor sharp and inscrutable and we seemed to have a real connection,” Carlson added. “He saw something in me that he liked — what he called my ‘killer instinct.’ He once noted that I would stop at nothing to do the job. He got me. Over the years I’ve come to value our time together. He encourages me to be myself, to relax and to not try so hard to look smart. ‘People know you’re smart,’ he says.”

She lied in the book, no doubt. No one writes a book containing anything negative about their current employer.
 

werepossum

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Roger Ailes is and has always been a scumbag and I would not put it past him one bit to be the douchnozzle he's been accused of in this story. If there are many others that will come forward as happened to Bill Cosby than it would make the case stronger that he is in fact the scum Carlson says he is. OTH, if she was replaced due to low ratings, whether or not it had anything to do with her getting older and less attractive, and she was later fired as it appears she was then this could be an effort to 'get even' with Fox and particularly the guy running the show.

I'm no fan of FoxNews, nor CNN for that matter, and FoxNews has undeniably utilized sex to gain there audience. It's hard to say what percentage that role has played, but FoxNews is far and away the biggest game in town so on a purely business basis they're doing what works.

But, again, the use of attractive people on a news program is nothing new and is not likely to change anytime soon as even the folks that complain about the use of pretty woman tend to be more inclined to watch such programs when they have pretty women. Pretty hard to repeal human nature...


Brian
She was replaced with Elisabeth Hasselbeck, so apparently Carlson was released for being too smart. Waaay too smart. And Carlson is still far hotter than Hasselbeck, even though she's increasingly taking on the slightly cross-eyed look of a highly bred Persian cat.

It's also relevant to point out that Fox News is the biggest player in CABLE news, not overall. That's probably because they are the only major right wing news network, whereas the left wing viewpoint is diluted amongst all the alphabets.
 

Londo_Jowo

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She was replaced with Elisabeth Hasselbeck, so apparently Carlson was released for being too smart. Waaay too smart. And Carlson is still far hotter than Hasselbeck, even though she's increasingly taking on the slightly cross-eyed look of a highly bred Persian cat.

It's also relevant to point out that Fox News is the biggest player in CABLE news, not overall. That's probably because they are the only major right wing news network, whereas the left wing viewpoint is diluted amongst all the alphabets.

She wasn't replaced, she got her own show later in the morning or early afternoon.
 
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I'm more interested in will he have to show his junk to the Police to prove there is no identifiable characteristic or will other fox news babes be dragged into the court room or will he do what every smart wealthy guy does and make a big private settlement.
 

Paratus

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I think Ailes is going to be hit pretty hard by these allegations. It's likely more women with details of bad behavior will come out of the shadows. Enough that Fox will have to make changes.


It also seems like he definitely has a "type" he likes for anchors, correspondents, reporters, contributors, etc.

(Note: I found this online. It's a "meme" which means it has been "fairly balanced" to make an amusing point. So take it with a grain of salt. I know not all Fox News folks are represented here)
 
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