Ex-Playboy Model, Freed From Contract, Can Discuss Alleged Trump Affair

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Commodus

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Be careful of that whataboutism. Butter emails! All such behavior is A-Ok, as long as a Democrat does it.
Always hilarious seeing this feigned, hypocritical moral high ground. lol

Having an affair is usually a personal issue regardless of party.

Paying hush money to cover it up is another matter, especially when you pretend to side with conservative Christians on social issues. It's corruption and hypocrisy all rolled into one -- that's what we're concerned about.
 
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compuwiz1

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Having an affair is usually a personal issue regardless of party.

Paying hush money to cover it up is another matter, especially when you pretend to side with conservative Christians on social issues. It's corruption and hypocrisy all rolled into one -- that's what we're concerned about.

Um-hum. Bill Clinton. Just stop. Lets understand that humans are sinners.
 

Commodus

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Um-hum. Bill Clinton. Just stop. Lets understand that humans are sinners.

I'm not going to excuse any bids on Clinton's part to cover things up, either.

The President of the United States should never be the sort who would pay hush money to cover up an affair during an election. As we've seen with Trump, that's frequently indicative of habitual corruption and lying that makes someone unfit for office.
 
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nickqt

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Look at the scumbags coming out of the woodwork to excuse Trump scumbagism, with calls to Clinton. Someone who hasn't been relevant for close to 2 decades.

Keep on keepin' on, scumbags. Your Strongman Messiah sure does appreciate it. It costs him nothing. It costs you your imaginary integrity.

Seriously though. Keep on keepin' on.
 

BUTCH1

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Um-hum. Bill Clinton. Just stop. Lets understand that humans are sinners.
No one saying what Clinton did was a-OK, it was not, he was impeached for lying about Lewinsky. What you fail to understand is the amount of lies, deals, corruption Trump is involved in and the horrible nature of his administration. Jared Kushner as a senior white house official?, laughable if it was not true, more than 3X the turnover of any administration, lack of a concise foreign policy, ego-driven decisions, the list is endless and horrific.
 
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zinfamous

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you morons are like a knitting group. why in the hell do you care who trump fucked before during or after being president. at this point what difference does it make?

derp.

how many women has your hero clinton boned before during and after being president.
derpity derp derp.

It's been nearly a year, and you still don't understand that none of this is actually about the sex. What is it with you? Is it just willful ignorance?
 

zinfamous

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Be careful of that whataboutism. Butter emails! All such behavior is A-Ok, as long as a Democrat does it.
Always hilarious seeing this feigned, hypocritical moral high ground. lol

first, you got the wrong Clinton in reference to outhouse's post.
second, this isn't whataboutism.

Besides, if you want to go that route: what is your typical response to the typical Dem characterization of the Lewinsky affair: "It was just a fucking blowjob!" What is your response to that comment? Consider that, then consider your own characterization of what is going on with Trump here. I'm holding out zero hope for your ability to reflect on any of this, but hey--even unicorns might be real!
 

Moonbeam

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It's not easy for people who attach their sense of self worth to a set of ideals like Republican family values and see other sides therefore as evil, to have to face the reality that the so called exponents and representatives of those ideas are morally sick people. Who wants to go through the doubt and loss of faith in everything your ego has used to protect itself from self recognition. Some of us know what a terrible pain in the ass that is. But most are in deep denial. Even overthrowing what your country really stands for might be preferable, on an emotional level, to that. "Enshrine my idol as dictator and silence this criticism so I don't have to face myself."
 

compuwiz1

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first, you got the wrong Clinton in reference to outhouse's post.
second, this isn't whataboutism.

Besides, if you want to go that route: what is your typical response to the typical Dem characterization of the Lewinsky affair: "It was just a fucking blowjob!" What is your response to that comment? Consider that, then consider your own characterization of what is going on with Trump here. I'm holding out zero hope for your ability to reflect on any of this, but hey--even unicorns might be real!

What they have in common is that none of the acts were illegal. Special counsels are endless investigations looking for a crime. They nailed Bill Clinton for lying under oath, as perjury traps are intended to do. I suspect they'll catch Trump the same way. There are a trout line of perjury traps laying for testimony under oath.
The way these things are done should bug anyone, whether you're left or right.
 

bshole

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I'm rather just grossed out by it, and disappointed a woman like that would fuck as slob like Trump, let alone for free. Feels a little pathetic.

I don't really need more info of how the choad on his nuts smells like filet-o-fish.

I'll tune in to watch the crooks burn under the light of the investigations.

I'll admit that I'm jealous if you will. It is probably a good thing for my marriage that I was never rich or powerful, it would be pretty hard not to succumb to gorgeous women attracted to the power and wealth.
 

bshole

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Obviously. Looks as though she took a shot at extortion as well.

Wonder how much dough she is going to make off of this. Although she didn't get the ring, it looks like she might still get paid. At her advanced age, it is pretty clear that the days of her profiting from her appearance are over. This could be her last chance at real money.
 

Greenman

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Wonder how much dough she is going to make off of this. Although she didn't get the ring, it looks like she might still get paid. At her advanced age, it is pretty clear that the days of her profiting from her appearance are over. This could be her last chance at real money.
Of course she'll get paid. Part of the settlement is that her products get promoted in the magazine.
Trumps a fool for ever thinking this would remain quiet.
What's surprising to me is that none have come forward with claims of rape.
 

bshole

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I think HE is.

Almost all men are. For most of us, the chances of acting on our carnal nature is resting right around a nil. God fucked up when he had the man's body producing 100,000 sperm a minute, it created a massive differential between men's sexual desire and women's. In any event, there are papers out there that argue that monogamy is unnatural in humans and the scientific consensus may be that polygamy is the default setting..

Given the fact that 80% of early human societies were polygamous, why did later populations become largely monogamous? Science has no answer to that, apparently, although there are theories, as you might expect. One of them has to do with the "two parent" advantage to monogamy in caring for the young.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...y/201605/monogamy-is-not-natural-human-beings
 

Moonbeam

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Almost all men are. For most of us, the chances of acting on our carnal nature is resting right around a nil. God fucked up when he had the man's body producing 100,000 sperm a minute, it created a massive differential between men's sexual desire and women's. In any event, there are papers out there that argue that monogamy is unnatural in humans and the scientific consensus may be that polygamy is the default setting..



https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...y/201605/monogamy-is-not-natural-human-beings
Personally, I am Leary of assumptions about our human nature owing to how my opinions have evolved over the years. In the process of change I have noticed one constant, that whatever my current position is or was, i was certain every time it was right. Have you noticed that and has it had any effect if you have in tempering that certainty.
 

bshole

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Personally, I am Leary of assumptions about our human nature owing to how my opinions have evolved over the years. In the process of change I have noticed one constant, that whatever my current position is or was, i was certain every time it was right. Have you noticed that and has it had any effect if you have in tempering that certainty.

Do you think men masturbate to images of one woman or to images of hundreds if not thousands of different women? If most men use images of many different women, does that tell you anything about man's fundamental nature? Christians say that fantasizing about the act is the same as the act....
 
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Moonbeam

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Do you think men masturbate to images of one woman or to images of hundreds if not thousands of different women? If most men use images of many different women, does that tell you anything about man's fundamental nature? Christians say that fantasizing about the act is the same as the act....
Part of the way I think, if it is even thinking, is to ask myself when asked a question if it contains assumptions that for me have no pertinence to the issue at hand. You seem perfectly aware, it seems to me, that the absurd notion you called Christian, could possibly be real sin. I carry that farther and fail to impute any relevance to my fantasy and it’s relavance to monogamy.
 

Noah Abrams

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Personally, I am Leary of assumptions about our human nature owing to how my opinions have evolved over the years. In the process of change I have noticed one constant, that whatever my current position is or was, i was certain every time it was right. Have you noticed that and has it had any effect if you have in tempering that certainty.

Good point moonbeam. It is something I have thought about it too. That is why I have generally become averse to activism and the zeal on the left to change the society to form a "better" society (the laws of unintended consequences being one part of it). That is also the reason I take myself a LOT less seriously than I used to say 20 years ago
 

bshole

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Part of the way I think, if it is even thinking, is to ask myself when asked a question if it contains assumptions that for me have no pertinence to the issue at hand. You seem perfectly aware, it seems to me, that the absurd notion you called Christian, could possibly be real sin. I carry that farther and fail to impute any relevance to my fantasy and it’s relavance to monogamy.

But don't beliefs inform actions? Didn't every terrorist think about the act before committing it? In much the same way, every girl I had sex with I fantasized about first. I don't believe I ever said no to any girl that I fantasized about.... generally it was them saying no to me or me being to spineless to ask.....
 
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