Excited for Aliens VS Predator

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Piotrsama

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Yes, but goes to show that Gamespot gave it the worst note of all reviews.
The rest gave it a 70 or over.
 

Pia

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1) Graphics. Playing at 1920x1080 with medium settings, it looks extremely good. When I say extremely good, I feel that this is actually one of the best looking titles I have seen in a while. Lighting and textures are well done.
I disagree. Sure, the graphics technology seems up-to-date (I never look at this stuff very hard, so this is just about indistinguishable to Crysis in terms of fidelity), but the graphic design is uninspired and massively behind the first game. The vision modes (and lack thereof) are just sad. Many things seem very out of place.
I have found the oddest thing to be that you sometimes wrestle with the aliens. From my minor knowledge on the lore of Aliens, Predators and all things Marine I thought that was either not possible or just a seriously bad idea in any way, shape or form. Maybe someone can enlighten me on that.
Melee combat as a rule doesn't belong in first person because it requires great depth perception which a screen does not offer, as well as hair-trigger control like fighting games have. It's telling that there are no first person fighting games that are any good.

The reason it is still used in FPSs comes from the Bungie-Epic school of game design. Everybody knows that you get solid pressure in a game by making it difficult. That worked fine in the first AvP. These blockbuster factories, OTOH, seek to fake some of that response without the difficulty. Extensive, "pushed" close combat is a way to add cheap thrills at low skill levels at the cost of worsening the game at medium to high skill levels.

Research:
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3868/shoot_to_thrill_biosensory_.php?page=3
 
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MarcVenice

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I played through the marine campaign, and I enjoyed it. Those damn aliens do take a lot of punishment and at times you've only got your handgun, but you start to learn to rely on reflexes. An alien can strafe really fast for example and you really have to yank your gun left or right.

I did a bit of the predator-missions, and it's completely different. With the predator, it's no longer a corridor-shooter, but much more open world, coz you can jump onto a lot of places. I think it's a bit harder though, sometimes the distract-thing can't be used, and then it's really hard to take out a human. You really have to attack them in the back or wait for them to empty their clip.

I wouldn't say it's epic, but I probably would give it an 8. Just because the marine and predator gameplay is so different. Because as a marine, you are on edge. I'm not a fan of the close combat either, but how else should they have made it? It's allready quite difficult, aliens excel in close combat, but if they come to close, and you'd die instantly, the game would suck. If they do come close btw, your health will take a hit.

Graphics are quite nice. I'm running a HD 4890 now, at 1680x1050, with all settings maxed and as a Marine, I had no trouble keeping up 30 or more fps. There are only a few spots where it would actually get as low as 30fps. As a Predator, I get much lower scores with minima of around 15fps. I took this screenshot. The cave walls have a lot of detail, as do most things. Lighting looks good. I'm going to have to see how it runs on a HD 5870 with tesselation.

 
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Pia

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I'm not a fan of the close combat either, but how else should they have made it?
Much in the same way they did it before - if they didn't have even better ideas, which they obviously didn't.
- more intelligent and powerful vision system so if you use it right, you can see the incoming aliens before it's too late - this was a big part of the difficulty of the original, keeping your wits about you, using your vision well and keeping your bearings even under pressure
- more powerful weapons (at least the basic rifle, the flamethrower and the smartgun), so if you can see the alien in time and aim properly, you can kill it before it gets you
- faster and smoother movement so you can move defensively, dodge a little bit and actually back out of spaces while shooting
It's allready quite difficult, aliens excel in close combat, but if they come to close, and you'd die instantly, the game would suck.
Well, no. It would be more exciting and the no-good close combat mechanic would not need to be there.
 

gigahertz20

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Why not just get it from steam in the first place?

Because you can now get AVP off eBay for around $27 or so. I bought a serial off eBay for that price, launched steam and put in the serial, game downloaded and everything works fine. So for people that payed $50.......................


 

Elcs

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Because you can now get AVP off eBay for around $27 or so. I bought a serial off eBay for that price, launched steam and put in the serial, game downloaded and everything works fine. So for people that payed $50.......................

One of the very few games that you can add to Steam with just a CD Key.

Lucky ah heck!
 

zerocool84

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Because you can now get AVP off eBay for around $27 or so. I bought a serial off eBay for that price, launched steam and put in the serial, game downloaded and everything works fine. So for people that payed $50.......................



Well that's fine for you but I would never take the risk of buying a key off ebay.
 

gigahertz20

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Well that's fine for you but I would never take the risk of buying a key off ebay

Then you have no clue on how to buy things on eBay, always look at the sellers feedback score. Link to seller that I bought my AvP key from:

http://tinyurl.com/yguxfnx

This guy is selling a bunch of AVP serials, most of the auctions for the game end right around $27-$28 if you look at his completed listings. All of the serials he has sold for AVP have people reporting positive comments (look at feedback comments) and that they work 100&#37;, so tell me how can you not trust that?

Plus, have you not heard of eBay Buyer Protection? If for some reason you get screwed over on eBay by sending the money through PayPal for an item and not getting it, you will be refunded the full amount including shipping if any.

http://pages.ebay.com/coverage/index.html



Usually, the less tech savvy people, mostly older people, are still too paranoid to use eBay. Their loss, I have gotten so many good deals on items especially when Bing cashback was at 25%.
 
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Nik

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Then you have no idea on how to buy things on eBay, always look at the sellers feedback score. Link to seller that I bought from:

http://tinyurl.com/yguxfnx

This guy is selling a bunch of AVP serials, most of the auctions for the game end right around $27-$28 if you look at his completed listings. All of the serials he has sold for AVP have people reporting positive comments and that they work 100% so tell me how can you not trust that?

Plus, have you not heard of eBay Buyer Protection? If for some reason you get screwed over on eBay by sending the money through PayPal for an item and not getting it, you will be refunded the full amount including shipping.

http://pages.ebay.com/coverage/index.html



Usually the less tech savvy people, mostly older people, are still too paranoid to use eBay. Their loss, I have gotten so many good deals on items especially when Bing cashback was at 25%.

Ebay feedback means absolutely nothing.

Most people in their right mind are NOT going to buy a cd key from ebay. It boggles my mind that you're willing to do so.
 

zerocool84

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Then you have no idea on how to buy things on eBay, always look at the sellers feedback score. Link to seller that I bought from:

http://tinyurl.com/yguxfnx

This guy is selling a bunch of AVP serials, most of the auctions for the game end right around $27-$28 if you look at his completed listings. All of the serials he has sold for AVP have people reporting positive comments and that they work 100% so tell me how can you not trust that?

Plus, have you not heard of eBay Buyer Protection? If for some reason you get screwed over on eBay by sending the money through PayPal for an item and not getting it, you will be refunded the full amount including shipping.

http://pages.ebay.com/coverage/index.html



Usually the less tech savvy people, mostly older people, are still too paranoid to use eBay. Their loss, I have gotten so many good deals on items especially when Bing cashback was at 25%.

eBay/Paypal buyer protection is a joke. I've bought things off eBay as have others and not got sent any product and gotten screwed. Like I said, that's fine you're taking the risk but I buy things legit.
 

gigahertz20

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Ebay feedback means absolutely nothing.

Most people in their right mind are NOT going to buy a cd key from ebay. It boggles my mind that you're willing to do so.

Well, I guess most people are not in their right mind then, just look at the dozens of people that have bought an AVP serial key from the seller I linked and left good comments, along with the other 100 or so positive comments left from other people that have bought serials for other games. How does eBay feedback mean absolutely nothing? It means everything, LOL. If this guy was a new eBay seller and didn't have a ton of positive feedback, you think people would buy serials from him? Uhhhhh nooooooo.


eBay/Paypal buyer protection is a joke. I've bought things off eBay as have others and not got sent any product and gotten screwed. Like I said, that's fine you're taking the risk but I buy things legit.

You must not know what to look for then, or the questions to ask when you buy from a seller on eBay. I've never gotten screwed, and I've spent thousands on eBay. Not only have I purchased tons of products at far cheaper prices then you could anywhere else, but I've saved tons of money from Bing cashback. Over $2,000 from Bing cashback so far, obligatory screen shot of my cashback down below. BTW, how is buying a serial off eBay not buying it legitly? You guys crack me up.

It's fine if you guys are bitter towards eBay, I love it and will always use it.

 
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mr.d

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Just registered because I can't let you write things like that gigahertz

Read what says Valve on the Ebay topic

Purchasing Gifts on eBay / Receiving Gifts from Strangers

You are clearly loosing warranty purchasing on Ebay, and tommorow you will be the monkey with the game removed from your account.

Ebay Feedbacks are so much hacked today, hackers are using real scammed accounts to leave fake feedbacks
 
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gigahertz20

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Just registered because I can't let you write things like that gigahertz

Read what says Valve on the Ebay topic

Purchasing Gifts on eBay / Receiving Gifts from Strangers

You are clearly loosing warranty purchasing on Ebay, and tommorow you will be the monkey with the game removed from your account.

Ebay Feedbacks are so much hacked today, hackers are using real scammed accounts to leave fake feedbacks

Of Course Valve will say that, they want people to pay the extra money to buy it directly on steam. As long as you are buying from credible sellers on eBay that have alot of positive feedback on the same item you are buying, you're fine. Yes, hackers can use accounts they have hacked into to leave fake feedback but that is why you look into other things as well.

I bought a left 4 dead 2 serial on eBay for $25 or so when it first came out, I've had that game since then and nothing has been wrong. Just don't be a noob buyer on eBay and you are fine.
 

PhatoseAlpha

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Eh. Well, good luck to you then. I'd never buy a steam anything off of Ebay, simply because the risk is to great. You never know when Valve might decide to come down hard and ban your entire account for receiving a gift purchased with a stolen CC.
 

gigahertz20

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Eh. Well, good luck to you then. I'd never buy a steam anything off of Ebay, simply because the risk is to great. You never know when Valve might decide to come down hard and ban your entire account for receiving a gift purchased with a stolen CC.

The serials you buy on eBay are mostly from people in other countries, usually Europe, they can sell the serials for new games because they get them for really cheap.
 

skyofavalon

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I took a chance and bought a Windows 7 Pro key off Ebay for $19. It worked ! Just bought AvP new from amazon for $30 yesterday.



Anyone know if a 5770 can max this @ 1280 x 720 in DX 11 with 30 + fps ?
 

zerocool84

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I took a chance and bought a Windows 7 Pro key off Ebay for $19. It worked ! Just bought AvP new from amazon for $30 yesterday.



Anyone know if a 5770 can max this @ 1280 x 720 in DX 11 with 30 + fps ?

At that puny rez you can max pretty much every game.
 

Pia

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I took a chance and bought a Windows 7 Pro key off Ebay for $19. It worked ! Just bought AvP new from amazon for $30 yesterday.



Anyone know if a 5770 can max this @ 1280 x 720 in DX 11 with 30 + fps ?
I ran the demo at 1920x1200 with a 8800GTS...
 

xenomorphdrone

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Has anyone tried setting up a LAN with this game? I just want to 1v1 connecting two laptops with a Ethernet cord and I dont see the option to start a local game...
 

Lonyo

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Well that's fine for you but I would never take the risk of buying a key off ebay.

That's your choice, but it wouldn't surprise me to see that these are retail UK keys which have been purchased through somewhere like Amazon, and then resold via Ebay.

Game prices in the UK are very cheap compared to the US, for the most part, so it wouldn't surprise me to see people taking advantage of that sort of thing. You don't need to deal with dodgy eastern European/asian keys.
 

Alienwho

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Ok enough with the ebay crap. Lets get back to talking about how much this game sucks.

I completed the Alien campaign in 1 1/2 hours and didn't have much fun while doing it. Doesn't feel nearly as fluid and fun as the original AvP titles.
 

coloumb

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Ok enough with the ebay crap. Lets get back to talking about how much this game sucks.

I completed the Alien campaign in 1 1/2 hours and didn't have much fun while doing it. Doesn't feel nearly as fluid and fun as the original AvP titles.

NERD RAGE!!! RAWWRRRR!! It's fun to argue and point out someone is wrong... NERD VS RAGERS!!!

MetaScore on this game is pretty low - and from what I've been reading around the net, most people agree it deserves the score it receives - ~70. I'll wait until it's on the 50% chopping block via Steam...
 
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