Excited for Aliens VS Predator

[mindcycle]

I don't buy steam games at full price unless its' MP focused, online activation being the killer (and please, spare me your testimonial that everyone in the entire world must have constant and reliable internet access).

I do the same because the resale value of Steam protected game is $0 because it's permanently tied to your account. Taking that into account a $50 game becomes worth no more than $20 to me, so I wait for that price if it's a title I want.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Played the demo and was not impressed at all. Maybe if Steam does a deal for it I'll buy it but the demo didn't make me want to buy the game at all.

I haven't played mp yet but I'm almost halfway through the alien sp storyline, and three levels into both the marine and predator storylines, and I've noted that the controls are much smoother than they were in the demo. Also, the graphics are FAR better (and I'm using an old 8600GT). I was not impressed by the demo but I'm loving the sp so far.

You definitely have to use totally different tactics to succeed as each individual species. Each species is a totally different gameplay experience, too. You're powerful as predator and can use brawn and gadgets; you never feel 'scared.' You're weak but insanely fast and agile as an alien and it's a creeptastic experience - if you don't get the jump on your enemies you're done. You're scared as a marine, all the time, but if you see them in time and think, they're toast.

I read that review and IMO person who reviewed AvP3 is total moron.

Moron might be a bit harsh but...not an impressive review at all.

I do the same because the resale value of Steam protected game is $0 because it's permanently tied to your account. Taking that into account a $50 game becomes worth no more than $20 to me, so I wait for that price if it's a title I want.

This aggravates me as well but I made an exception for this one. I still have and play AvP 1 & 2 (2 is one of my top 5 fav pc games ever, easy).

The bottom line is that the demo is not an accurate representation of the finished version, especially not the single player campaigns. It's as solid (so far) as AvP 2 but with updated graphics - nuff said for me.

 

[Nik]

Have you played the demo that's available via Steam? It's a HORRIBLE game. -_-

I was SUPREMELY disappointed.

 

[FerraraZ]

Man I got the game today through steam and have just been having a ball. Surprisingly its a quick pick up a play unlike what the demo was. Gotta say so far I'm happy with my purchase, its what the first AvP was and more graphically which is sweet.

 

[heat901]

I like it... the demo is a demo I thought it was ok. Im on the fence with buying it for 50... ill wait it out for a sale im back logged anyway.

 

[69Mach1]

The steam requirement just put this off my buy list. It's too bad, I was looking forward to it, as AvP1 and AvP2 were some of my favorites. I'm glad I heard about it before I went and bought the game.

 

[Rakewell]

It's interesting to read all the positive reviews in here, considering Gamespot's score.

The video review was brutal.

So, the general consensus is that the game is good? I'm on the fence....

 

[TheNoblePlatypus]

Pretty underwhelmed by the game so far. There is no real coop play in the game, only a tacked on survivor mode with 2 maps. Some of the versus modes are fun though. If I could take back my purchase, I would.

The gameplay feels clunky and slow no matter where the sensitivity is set, it really does feel like a console port. The graphics are also really nothing to get excited about.

 

[ussfletcher]

Pretty underwhelmed by the game so far. There is no real coop play in the game, only a tacked on survivor mode with 2 maps. Some of the versus modes are fun though. If I could take back my purchase, I would.

The gameplay feels clunky and slow no matter where the sensitivity is set, it really does feel like a console port. The graphics are also really nothing to get excited about.

So basically, exactly how the demo was?

 

[simonizor]

AvP 3 is out now.... BUT all copies, physical or digital, require Steam drm.

Really a shame, looks like I'll be doing a one week rental on console until it's on sale for $10. I don't buy steam games at full price unless its' MP focused, online activation being the killer (and please, spare me your testimonial that everyone in the entire world must have constant and reliable internet access).

I do hope it's a good game.

A shame? I don't understand what people have against steam. Sure, it used to be buggy, but they've come an extremely long way with it, and it's now one of the best ways to purchase video games out there. The catalog of games is huge, download speeds are almost always great, prices are usually cheaper than in store, and it's got a built in community. What's not to like? Steam DRM is MUCH MUCH better than securom. It doesn't require you to do anything other than download steam (which every person that plays PC games should have already anyways), insert the CD key, and play. No stupid bullshit to deal with.

Also, what's wrong with having a game tied to your account forever? I think that it's very convenient because I don't have to keep track of any discs. It's not like you can really sell used PC games anyways.

 

[mindcycle]

Also, what's wrong with having a game tied to your account forever?

It means you can't resell the game, even if you have a physical copy. That's extremely limiting for those of us who like to make some money back after we finish a game, or like trade games, etc.. I get that you can't resell a digital copy (although there is Stardock's GOO system), but that shouldn't be the case for retail boxed versions. This is my main complaint about Steam "protected" games. The service itself is fine and works well otherwise. I will still buy games that I like eventually, but never for full price since they take away my first-sale doctrine rights.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine

Because of these restrictions i've started to lean toward consoles a bit more since they have a very thriving used market. It's too bad really because a solid used market could greatly help the PC industry. I mean, just look at the console industry as an example of that.

 

[Nik]

A shame? I don't understand what people have against steam. Sure, it used to be buggy, but they've come an extremely long way with it, and it's now one of the best ways to purchase video games out there. The catalog of games is huge, download speeds are almost always great, prices are usually cheaper than in store, and it's got a built in community. What's not to like? Steam DRM is MUCH MUCH better than securom. It doesn't require you to do anything other than download steam (which every person that plays PC games should have already anyways), insert the CD key, and play. No stupid bullshit to deal with.

Also, what's wrong with having a game tied to your account forever? I think that it's very convenient because I don't have to keep track of any discs. It's not like you can really sell used PC games anyways.

I sell and trade PC games on Craigslist fairly regularly, so there goes your argument right out the window.

Additionally, I like to play games that don't require an internet connection to play, even though they're 100% installed on your HDD.

 

[simonizor]

I sell and trade PC games on Craigslist fairly regularly, so there goes your argument right out the window.

Additionally, I like to play games that don't require an internet connection to play, even though they're 100% installed on your HDD.

I would personally never buy a used PC game. It would be extremely easy for the person you are buying it from to download a pirated copy of the game and then use the CD key that they purchased to continue playing it, giving you a useless game if you intend to play it online.

You can play steam games offline.
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=3160-AGCB-2555

 

[ZzZGuy]

A shame? I don't understand what people have against steam. Sure, it used to be buggy, but they've come an extremely long way with it, and it's now one of the best ways to purchase video games out there. The catalog of games is huge, download speeds are almost always great, prices are usually cheaper than in store, and it's got a built in community. What's not to like? Steam DRM is MUCH MUCH better than securom. It doesn't require you to do anything other than download steam (which every person that plays PC games should have already anyways), insert the CD key, and play. No stupid bullshit to deal with.

Also, what's wrong with having a game tied to your account forever? I think that it's very convenient because I don't have to keep track of any discs. It's not like you can really sell used PC games anyways.

-edit- Ok, please read past "shame".

 

[skulkingghost]

I am making my way throught it now. I am running it all settings maxed at 5040x1050 on eyefinity and I love it. The game really captures the feeling of the original and I have had no real complaints so far.

 

[schneiderguy]

It's weird, most reports from people on how the game is are pretty positive, but the mainstream reviews are that it is pretty bad:hmm:

Usually it's the opposite. Maybe the PC version really is superior? (I assume gamespot, etc reviewed the xbox version)

 

[gigahertz20]

I have a question for you guys, if I buy a copy of the game from a retail store or online somewhere, can I open up steam and input the serial for AvP then have steam download the game? For people that buy the game at places like Best Buy how do they play online without steam?

Just asking because I bought Far Cry 2 awhile back and input the serial into Steam and it wouldn't take it, I wanted Steam to keep it up to date and everything without me messing with it.

 

[simonizor]

I have a question for you guys, if I buy a copy of the game from a retail store or online somewhere, can I open up steam and input the serial for AvP then have steam download the game? For people that buy the game at places like Best Buy how do they play online without steam?

Just asking because I bought Far Cry 2 awhile back and input the serial into Steam and it wouldn't take it, I wanted Steam to keep it up to date and everything without me messing with it.

Why not just get it from steam in the first place?

 

[KaOTiK]

I have a question for you guys, if I buy a copy of the game from a retail store or online somewhere, can I open up steam and input the serial for AvP then have steam download the game? For people that buy the game at places like Best Buy how do they play online without steam?

Just asking because I bought Far Cry 2 awhile back and input the serial into Steam and it wouldn't take it, I wanted Steam to keep it up to date and everything without me messing with it.

Yes, it is a Steamworks title so you just need to activate the cd key on steam and it is tie to your account from there on.

As for the person above, reason is you can normally find new games for sale for cheaper then steams price.

Only reason I even got the retail of AvP was cause I had a $50 gift card to Gamestop that I got from work.

 

[TheJTrain]

It means you can't resell the game, even if you have a physical copy. That's extremely limiting for those of us who like to make some money back after we finish a game, or like trade games, etc.. I get that you can't resell a digital copy (although there is Stardock's GOO system), but that shouldn't be the case for retail boxed versions. This is my main complaint about Steam "protected" games. The service itself is fine and works well otherwise. I will still buy games that I like eventually, but never for full price since they take away my first-sale doctrine rights.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine

Because of these restrictions i've started to lean toward consoles a bit more since they have a very thriving used market. It's too bad really because a solid used market could greatly help the PC industry. I mean, just look at the console industry as an example of that.

I sell and trade PC games on Craigslist fairly regularly, so there goes your argument right out the window.

These, and add eBay, Half.com, Amazon Marketplace, and Goozex to the mention of Craigslist. Not to mention maybe handing it down to a nephew or little brother when you're done - completely impossible with Steamworks. It's not a publisher's place (or anyone else's) to decide for me what I can do with a physical copy of media that I've legally purchased (game, book, movie, whatever). I've bought non-transferable digital games, but only if the sale price makes it too good to pass up ($5 for Riddick: Dark Athena, $5 for Torchlight), but to have the same degree of non-transferability (read: total) forced upon a physical copy bought in a store is an affront to consumer rights codified into law.

I was very interested in AvP3 and somewhat interested in MW2 until I found out about the Steamworks nonsense - no sale.

I would personally never buy a used PC game. It would be extremely easy for the person you are buying it from to download a pirated copy of the game and then use the CD key that they purchased to continue playing it, giving you a useless game if you intend to play it online.

That's where doing one's own due diligence comes in (advisable in all things, really) instead of guessing. In the case of some titles that's true, but not for all. It's caveat emptor, certainly, but believe me, the used PC game market is absolutely healthy, aside from those titles where the publisher has intentionally (and, IMO and that of the courts so far, illegally) blocked it.

 

[gigahertz20]

Why not just get it from steam in the first place?

Ummmmmm because it is $50 and gogamer had a sale on it for $40 few days back, plus after it is out for a few weeks sellers on eBay will have it for less then $40. I guess if you are in a hurry to play it you can get it directly on Steam for $50. I always like to save money whenever I buy something.

 

[Pia]

It's weird, most reports from people on how the game is are pretty positive, but the mainstream reviews are that it is pretty bad:hmm:

Usually it's the opposite. Maybe the PC version really is superior? (I assume gamespot, etc reviewed the xbox version)

Based on the demo, the controls, the balancing, even the FOV is all console. Dumbed down vision system. The devs said in the interviews that this game is about bringing AvP to the consoles and less hardcore audience, and that's what they did. To me, as a fan of the last two games, it feels like they took a shit on the series. And I say this having just bought and played AvP Classic 2000, not from hazy memory.

If you forget about the last two games, this one is not actually a terrible game overall despite the issues - maybe 6/10, even 7/10, depends on the campaign and the better MP modes.

 

[Elcs]

I pre-ordered this as soon as Steam had it out. Paid a couple of extra quid to get Universe at War which I wanted to try out anyway and the priviledge of having it on Steam. After the demo thread on AvP I was a little concerned.

Having played maybe 30 minutes or so completing the first Marines mission, I have to make a few points.

1) Graphics. Playing at 1920x1080 with medium settings, it looks extremely good. When I say extremely good, I feel that this is actually one of the best looking titles I have seen in a while. Lighting and textures are well done.

2) Atmosphere... They kinda got it.... then killed it. I was feeling all tensioned up as any sane marine would.... then realised that aliens only hurt and don't necessarily kill me if I miss them. I remembered in my morning-tryingtowakeup phasethat I put the game on rookie but that does not really excuse the seemingly terrible alien movement animation, lack of alien pounce attacks? and the number of bullets required to stop an alien in its tracks.

Marines and Aliens are alike in that they are glass cannons. If one takes the other at a disadvantaged time then it should be almost certainly game over for the unfortunate person. That is what makes the game so scary/thrilling/exciting. Maybe if I change from rookie to another difficulty this might return but the aliens do seem to be more resiliant.

I have found the oddest thing to be that you sometimes wrestle with the aliens. From my minor knowledge on the lore of Aliens, Predators and all things Marine I thought that was either not possible or just a seriously bad idea in any way, shape or form. Maybe someone can enlighten me on that.

3) Voice Acting. Not the games strong point and not necessarily weak but the voices do not convey the kind of feeling that I would expect from my experiences with the other games.

Enjoying it so far overall. I feel disappointed because it could have been so much better but I feel quite happy with my purchase, definitely a good game.

 

[Magusigne]

snip.

Good Review,

Thanks Elcs!

 

[gamerguy2]

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/aliensvspredator

The reviews are good. Im holding off on buying a new game for DOW2 expansion. But this looks faster paced than some of the new FPS. No vehicles in MP unfortunately.