Gallery opening is a benchmark. It's not Geekbench, but it does indicate the performance of the phone for that action...
...which for some strange reason is shockingly abysmal. Samsung has some significant work to do.
And arguably, it is actually more important a benchmark than others, because people actually want to use the Gallery app.
Gallery opening is a benchmark. It's not Geekbench, but it does indicate the performance of the phone for that action...
...which for some strange reason is shockingly abysmal. Samsung has some significant work to do.
And arguably, it is actually more important a benchmark than others, because people actually want to use the Gallery app.
What are you talking about? It's a benchmark. A different type of benchmark, but one nonetheless, and it illustrates this functionality is broken on the Note 3. If I were considering buying the thing, I'd most definitely want to know that.Its only a benchmark if you can use the same software to do the same task across different devices, which is not what's happening here. It's pretty obvious there's a problem in that video you posted but to try and spin it as a benchmark is disingenuous.
What are you talking about? It's a benchmark. A different type of benchmark, one nonetheless, and it illustrates this functionality isbroken on the Note 3. If I were considering buying the thing, I'd most definitely want to know that.
Yeah, maybe it will be fixed in the next update, or maybe we'll continue to see problems with it for months. If say an LG had this working perfectly, that'd be a pretty strong incentive to look that direction.
What are you talking about? It's a benchmark. A different type of benchmark, but one nonetheless, and it illustrates this functionality is broken on the Note 3. If I were considering buying the thing, I'd most definitely want to know that.
Yeah, maybe it will be fixed in the next update, or maybe we'll continue to see problems with it for months. If say an LG had this working perfectly, that'd be a pretty strong incentive to look that direction.
I think you're being deliberately obtuse regarding the term benchmark. This is a bug and has nothing to do with a hardware limitation or performance. Others on XDA who actually have the phone aren't experiencing this issue - and as the Ars review pointed out, is likely due to some code trying to sync up all the images in your Google account and Dropbox account.
Thankfully there are tons of alternate apps you can use to avoid this issue until it's fixed, most of which also gain you functionality.
About a 0.5/10 on the scale to care if you're considering this phone. About a 9/10 if you're an iOS user looking to rag on Samsung
Frankly the handwriting to text functionality that's broken is more concerning to me, though it's likely to be fixed shortly. Of course most phones don't even have to worry about this type of issue
I think you guys have far too narrow a definition of the term benchmark. Problems with software performance don't have to be only caused by hardware to be relevant. They very much can be software related, which this undoubtedly is.I think you're being deliberately obtuse regarding the term benchmark. This is a bug and has nothing to do with a hardware limitation or performance. Others on XDA who actually have the phone aren't experiencing this issue - and as the Ars review pointed out, is likely due to some code trying to sync up all the images in your Google account and Dropbox account.
OK, not ideal, but a temp solution nonetheless.Thankfully there are tons of alternate apps you can use to avoid this issue until it's fixed, most of which also gain you functionality.
I'm an Android and iOS user, and yes I'm ragging on Samsung for getting this totally wrong, and also for cheating on other "benchmarks".About a 0.5/10 on the scale to care if you're considering this phone. About a 9/10 if you're an iOS user looking to rag on Samsung
That's less important to me, since I never use that but yeah, that's extremely important to those who use that.Frankly the handwriting to text functionality that's broken is more concerning to me, though it's likely to be fixed shortly. Of course most phones don't even have to worry about this type of issue
I think you guys have far too narrow a definition of the term benchmark. Problems with software performance don't have to be only caused by hardware to be relevant. They very much can be software related, which this undoubtedly is.
Slightly disappointed to hear the camera is the same as the S4, so no OIS.
Yeah this is a software problem.
Point being, instead of spending time on "tuning" benchmarks, perhaps their time could have been better spent ensuring the stock apps work properly.
Indeed. Feature bloat, and faking benchmark results, at the expense of basic functionality.Point being, instead of spending time on "tuning" benchmarks, perhaps their time could have been better spent ensuring the stock apps work properly.
4K is pointless on a smartphone, esp. with current technology. They'd be much better off improving other aspects of the camera.Definitely this. That combined with decent 4K video would have been awesome.
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Hmm... 4K is pointless on a smartphone, esp. with current technology. They'd be much better off improving other aspects of the camera.
4K in itself can be great, but we're talking Smartphone sensors here. You'd get much more utility out of a larger sensor and 1080p than you would get with the same sensor size and 4K.Reviews of the 4K video have been really good as far as I've seen. I want it mainly as it would give far more freedom in editing it even if you downsize it to a 1080 finish.
4K video with OIS should give fantastic results post processing.
4K in itself can be great, but we're talking Smartphone sensors here. You'd get much more utility out of a larger sensor and 1080p than you would get with the same sensor size and 4K.
That said, if they're just doing a feature tick and if it doesn't come at the expense of other features, it can't hurt that much I suppose.
No point is, if you have an issue with a piece of software, just say that. Dont try to make it into some bigger thing thats representative of the whole device.
Um, it says a lot about the device as a whole when (a) a basic app doesn't function properly (b) maximum performance appears to be limited to a set of benchmarks.
Now those compromises might not matter to you, but they may matter to others.
Um, it says a lot about the device as a whole when (a) a basic app doesn't function properly
(b) maximum performance appears to be limited to a set of benchmarks.
Now those compromises might not matter to you, but they may matter to others.
It's not a compromise, it's a bug. Or should we now call each and every bug a compromise?
Compromises? Wheres the compromise? You can just use a different gallery, like you would on every other device.
1. LG didn't do it for the G2.According to Anand it seems all the major OEMs cheat benchmarks which is why they went ahead and put in the benchmark data.
Brian from AnandTech said:I should mention that the Note 3 (like many other Android devices - SGS4, HTC One) detects certain benchmarks and ensures CPU frequencies are running at max while running them, rather than relying on the benchmark workload to organically drive DVFS to those frequencies. Max supported CPU frequency is never exceeded in this process, the platform simply primes itself for running those tests as soon as they're detected. The impact is likely small since most of these tests should drive CPU frequencies to their max state regardless (at least on the CPU side), but I'm going to make it a point to call out this behavior whenever I see it from now on.
Um, it says a lot about the device as a whole when (a) a basic app doesn't function properly (b) maximum performance appears to be limited to a set of benchmarks.
Now those compromises might not matter to you, but they may matter to others.
In fairness - when the maximum performance outside of benchmarks is still king of the hill, it's a bit less of an issue.