"Executive experience"

[Jschmuck2]

I keep hearing this from all of the Republican mouthpieces when touting Sarah Palin. Can someone please define this for me?

 

[Bitek]

bullshitism of the week

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
I keep hearing this from all of the Republican mouthpieces when touting Sarah Palin. Can someone please define this for me?

It means 'have to find something about her to sell her with'.

It's they myth that by being an 'executive' in charge of an organization, she develps some mystical ability to be effective at leading organizations that applies to being president.

It's not so much that there aren't abilities like that needed, but rather that you can't measure them simply by their having been a governor, and other factors far outweigh that one when it comes to whether they're be a good president. A president with a good agenda and no executive experience is hugely better than a president with a bad agenda and massive executive experience, IMO.

Dick Cheney is extremely experienced at executive experience in and out of the government- and it only made him more harmful as VP.

 

[mjquilly]

i'll feed ya baby birds...

Executive experience = having previously held an executive position

as used in a sentance:
McCain, Obama, and Biden are legislators, and do not have "Executive Experience"
Palin, having served as a Governer and Mayor, does have "Executive Experience"

this is in fact not an invented term for this election.

 

[dbk]

Jackshit

 

[her209]

LOL... Bush had executive experience too.

 

[ProfJohn]

It means being in charge of something.

 

[palehorse]

Governorship is an "executive" position, similar to the Presidency -- which essentially just means that they each make decisions on important issues which do not require a vote of any sort -- they are each considered "Leadership" positions.

Members of Congress, such as McCain, Biden, and Obama, are in "legislative" positions -- meaning they are not in leadership positions -- instead, they simply cast a vote on each issue.

It's certainly NOT unique to the current race.

In fact, every Presidential election that has ever involved a Governor has also involved a discussion of "Executive experience" vs. "Legislative experience."

It's a valid issue -- just perhaps not as much of one as the Republicans would want it to be this time around...

 

[Jschmuck2]

I see. Well, that makes sense

 

[nageov3t]

managerial experience? ie: delegation, making decisions, etc.

as opposed to legislative experience, which seems to involve showing up and voting present any time you're in a pickle.

 

[Pepsei]

Palin:
Bachelor's in journalism from University of Idaho
4 years Wasilla City Council (8000 people)
6 years Wasilla mayor (8000 people)
1 year "Ethics Commissioner of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission"
20 months governor of a state with 660,000 people

normally we'd compare her to Biden's experience..but that'd be unfair let's pit her against the laughable experience of obama.

Obama:
B.A in political science from Columbia University, with a specialization in international relations
J.D. in Law from Hardvard, graduated magna cum laude; President of the Harvard Law Review
12 years (92-04) teaching constitutional law
7 years State Senator: sponsored more than 800 bills
4 years Senator for Illinos, a state with 12.8 million people

wow, the difference is staggering.

 

[FuzzyBee]

Originally posted by: Pepsei
Palin:
Bachelor's in journalism from University of Idaho
4 years Wasilla City Council (8000 people)
6 years Wasilla mayor (8000 people)
1 year "Ethics Commissioner of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission"
20 months governor of a state with 660,000 people

normally we'd compare her to Biden's experience..but that'd be unfair let's pit her against the laugable experience of obama.

Obama:
B.A in political science from Columbia University, with a specialization in international relations
J.D. in Law from Hardvard, graduated magna cum laude; President of the Harvard Law Review
12 years (92-04) teaching constitutional law
7 years State Senator: sponsored more than 800 bills
4 years Senator for Illinos, a state with 12.8 million people

wow, the difference is staggering.

Yes, it is, considering this thread is entitled "executive experience".

As palehorse said:

They can ignore pretty much any wrongdoing (Bush coke dealing)? if the person claims to be 'one of them'.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
As palehorse said:

They can ignore pretty much any wrongdoing (Bush coke dealing)? if the person claims to be 'one of them'.

huh? I said that?!

 

[QED]

Executive leadership means having to make tough decisions and live or die with consequences.

Legislative leadership means voting "Yes" or "No" (or in Barack's case, simply "Present") as part of a group of other voters on a piece of legislation that someone else wrote. If you're a particularly motivated legislative leader, you might even author a bill or two of your own. You have to be able to negotiate with others, and work with opponents to craft comprimises.

I personally think a good president will have the capability to do both: make tough decision, be willing to live with the consequences, work with legislators to get things done, and know when to compromise and when to stand your ground.

 

[JS80]

Executive experience is like when a Producer buys the script, hires directors and actors, and tells you during your audition to bend over so he can do you ITB and you can get that small part where you speak three words.

 

[dennilfloss]

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
I keep hearing this from all of the Republican mouthpieces when touting Sarah Palin. Can someone please define this for me?

From tonight, I gather it means POW.

 

[smashp]

Executive experience is what Carly Fiorina gained when she ran HP and lost half the value of the company during her tenure.

Then when no other corporation will touch you, you become a "top economic advisor" to John McCain

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: dennilfloss

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
I keep hearing this from all of the Republican mouthpieces when touting Sarah Palin. Can someone please define this for me?

From tonight, I gather it means POW.

you'd you gather that?

McCain doesn't have executive experience.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: smashp
Executive experience is what Carly Fiorina gained when she ran HP and lost half the value of the company during her tenure.

Then when no other corporation will touch you, you become a "top economic advisor" to John McCain

How do you know if it were someone else HP would have lost 90%? Maybe 50% loss was optimal outcome during her tenure which was in the wake of the dotbomb bubble and capex spending dried up.

 

[smashp]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: smashp
Executive experience is what Carly Fiorina gained when she ran HP and lost half the value of the company during her tenure.

Then when no other corporation will touch you, you become a "top economic advisor" to John McCain

How do you know if it were someone else HP would have lost 90%? Maybe 50% loss was optimal outcome during her tenure which was in the wake of the dotbomb bubble and capex spending dried up.

Easy, compaq

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: smashp

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: smashp
Executive experience is what Carly Fiorina gained when she ran HP and lost half the value of the company during her tenure.

Then when no other corporation will touch you, you become a "top economic advisor" to John McCain

How do you know if it were someone else HP would have lost 90%? Maybe 50% loss was optimal outcome during her tenure which was in the wake of the dotbomb bubble and capex spending dried up.

Easy, compaq

i guarantee you without Compaq, HPQ stock would not have made the 2005 - current bull run.

 

[smashp]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: smashp

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: smashp
Executive experience is what Carly Fiorina gained when she ran HP and lost half the value of the company during her tenure.

Then when no other corporation will touch you, you become a "top economic advisor" to John McCain

How do you know if it were someone else HP would have lost 90%? Maybe 50% loss was optimal outcome during her tenure which was in the wake of the dotbomb bubble and capex spending dried up.

Easy, compaq

i guarantee you without Compaq, HPQ stock would not have made the 2005 - current bull run.

you mean that run the stock made after Carly was thrown out?

 

[dennilfloss]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: dennilfloss

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
I keep hearing this from all of the Republican mouthpieces when touting Sarah Palin. Can someone please define this for me?

From tonight, I gather it means POW.

you'd you gather that?

McCain doesn't have executive experience.

Gee, Perknose was right about your nonsense of humour...

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: smashp

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: smashp

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: smashp
Executive experience is what Carly Fiorina gained when she ran HP and lost half the value of the company during her tenure.

Then when no other corporation will touch you, you become a "top economic advisor" to John McCain

How do you know if it were someone else HP would have lost 90%? Maybe 50% loss was optimal outcome during her tenure which was in the wake of the dotbomb bubble and capex spending dried up.

Easy, compaq

i guarantee you without Compaq, HPQ stock would not have made the 2005 - current bull run.

you mean that run the stock made after Carly was thrown out?

Clearly you understand correlation =/= causation.

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: smashp

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: smashp

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: smashp
Executive experience is what Carly Fiorina gained when she ran HP and lost half the value of the company during her tenure.

Then when no other corporation will touch you, you become a "top economic advisor" to John McCain

How do you know if it were someone else HP would have lost 90%? Maybe 50% loss was optimal outcome during her tenure which was in the wake of the dotbomb bubble and capex spending dried up.

Easy, compaq

i guarantee you without Compaq, HPQ stock would not have made the 2005 - current bull run.

you mean that run the stock made after Carly was thrown out?

Clearly you understand correlation =/= causation.

I agree with him. Carly overpaid, overpromised, and underdelivered. She destroyed massive amounts of shareholder value.