Expiring Domain - What do you do?

[imported_KuJaX]

There is a domain expiring tomorrow that I would like to try to snag. The problem is, the last time I went about getting a domain that expired, it sat there as expired for several weeks but still unavailable to purchase. This was several years back, so I don't know if domain expiration are quicker now or what the process is.

What is the normal process, in length of time, for a domain to become available in the open market? Is there a service that is reputable that will pickup the domain as soon as it becomes available, or do they go to bid, or what happens when multiple people use a service to get the domain? Obviously only one can have it, so I am looking for some insight from members that know how the system works.

Thank you!!

 

[Train]

Your best chance is try the back order feature on GoDaddy. But even then, be prepared to wait 90 days or more.

If you dont use some sort of auto-order, it will just get snatched up by a link farm. Which might still happen anyways. And then if you contact them with interest to buy it, they will want a shit ton of money for it.

 

[imported_KuJaX]

So if I use the back order feature on GoDaddy, and so does 5 other people, who gets it? Sounds like a scam.

 

[Train]

Originally posted by: KuJaX
So if I use the back order feature on GoDaddy, and so does 5 other people, who gets it? Sounds like a scam.

Who knows, if its just godaddy people, they will likely give it to the person who had it ordered first. Theres also other registrars and companies that are all competing for it. You're not even guarenteed GoDaddy will even get first crack at it.

The good thing about backorders is that if you dont get the domain you want, you can re-use it on another domain. So you can basically transfer it as many times as you want.

You should have backordered this domain a year ago. The day before? Shit man if its a domain worth having, theres 1,000 people/organizations lined up in front of you.

 

[imported_KuJaX]

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: KuJaX
So if I use the back order feature on GoDaddy, and so does 5 other people, who gets it? Sounds like a scam.

Who knows, if its just godaddy people, they will likely give it to the person who had it ordered first. Theres also other registrars and companies that are all competing for it. You're not even guarenteed GoDaddy will even get first crack at it.

The good thing about backorders is that if you dont get the domain you want, you can re-use it on another domain. So you can basically transfer it as many times as you want.

You should have backordered this domain a year ago. The day before? Shit man if its a domain worth having, theres 1,000 people/organizations lined up in front of you.

But is it really dependent upon "first come, first serve"?

It isnt a high profile or high value domain. If I get it, great. If not, I don't care. I am interested enough to post a thread about it

 

[speg]

Can't hurt to try. Let us know what happens.

 

[QueBert]

I had 2 domains expire a few months ago, I don't remember the exact term used. But basically since I let them expire they were in limbo and my only 2 options were to wait 2 months for it to become available again, or pay something like $225 to get it out of what sounded like a domain impound. At this point it would be first come, first serve for the waiting list. Unless you or somebody else decided to shell out the $225. I didn't want to wait for them to become public again, and I didn't care enough to pay almost $500 for 2 $10 domains. So I went with new domain names all together. I did not know about this grace period and the fees associated with it until this happened. taught me to not let my domains expire again lol.

 

[imported_KuJaX]

Quebert - These fee's, were they imposed by Godady or what did you have to end up doing? I think you got special treatment because you owned the domains. I don't believe (correct me if I am wrong) that anyone can jusr call up and take a domain from this impound and pay the $225 or whatever it is to get it out and get the domain.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: KuJaX
Quebert - These fee's, were they imposed by Godady or what did you have to end up doing? I think you got special treatment because you owned the domains. I don't believe (correct me if I am wrong) that anyone can jusr call up and take a domain from this impound and pay the $225 or whatever it is to get it out and get the domain.

If the original domain owner has to pay $225 because they let it expire, that's SHITTY. I could see Godaddy doing this to keep other people from swooping in and buying the domain. You might well be right, maybe I was only one who could pull the domain out of purgatory before the 2 months was up. I never really was explained to why the fee's there in the first place. I guess for them to make more money when an idiot like me lets a domain expire and they need the same one again.
*shrug*

I ended up registering new domains, both are now free for anyone who wants to drop $10 on them.

 

[sunshark]

Hey guys..actually registered an account to answer this question... (I used to work at godaddy.com)

For godaddy is just a registrar, who is an intermediary for the registry (ICANN) and when you register a domain name, you are the registrant.

When a domain name expires (and you should have gotten atleast 5 notices if you are the owner) you actually have a 45 day period where the domain name is considered in redemption at the registery. Meaning you can redeem it.

There is actually a fee to redeem domain names, Im not sure what that fee actually is, but godaddy.com has there own 90 dollar fee to make the domain name active again.

As far as the way back orders work. only one (1) registrar can do a back order.. so like one for godaddy. One for register.com, one for enom.com and so on. So once someone puts in a back order, no one else can.

Also, when the domain name expires the back order will not grab it for you, as previously stated the old owner of the domain name has 45 days to redeem it.

As far as if you want to get the domain name, and not back order it. When it does expire, and go through the redemption phase, you have to wait till the registry (ICANN) releases it to the public domain again.

as far as prices. those are set by ICANN. Which you should be able to look up online, or by emailling them. Prices only vary by registry when they are gouging you, or obviously selling at a loss.

Also, just an FYI, if you have a problem with a particular registrar, and cannot get through to their management, you go to the registry for complaints.

For complaints against an individual, like a legal issue, if you cant go through the registrar, you dont go to the registry, you go to WIPO.

 

[imported_KuJaX]

sunshark - very informative.

You made mention that the ICANN releases the domain to the public domain. However, if that is the case, wouldn't a backorder service (godaddy, register, enom, etc) pick it up before anyone can manually pick it up? Or, is what you are referring to, when a domain expires and gets released and there are no backorders on it?

What happens when it is a popular domain (lets say google.com) goes up (ahhahaahha), and each registrar has a backorder on it, how does the ICANN or when it gets released, know what registrar to give the domain name to?