Exploding e-cigs

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More than a few reports of "hover boards" catching on fire and burning things down. I'm guessing both technologies, along with the self-immolating laptop batteries, use lithium-ion.

The lesson here is probably to be careful with lithium-ion batteries. Last I heard, they work fine, as long as you don't fuck them up during manufacturing. If you do, good luck, BBQ?
 

funboy6942

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I use nothing but a quality Nitecore charger, Vamped batteries, and regulated Sigelei unit, so Im not worried at all.....its the unregulated pipe bombs you really got to watch out for
 
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Ackmed

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Ah, yes, you're correct. I guess I should have assumed you wanted vapers to explode in a non-fatal fashion?

Vapers, a device that vapes. You call it something else? Too bad, that is what I have heard them called as. Something cannot be killed if not alive. I explicit said that I didn't want anyone to get hurt. Otherwise it is funny to me. So yeah, you took it wrong, don't get all pissy at me for it.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Vapers, a device that vapes. You call it something else? Too bad, that is what I have heard them called as. Something cannot be killed if not alive. I explicit said that I didn't want anyone to get hurt. Otherwise it is funny to me. So yeah, you took it wrong, don't get all pissy at me for it.
Nobody calls the devices themselves "vapers", that term is applied to the users of the devices.
 

Ackmed

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Nobody calls the devices themselves "vapers", that term is applied to the users of the devices.

You don't think things/words have different means in different areas/cultures? Guess again.

I said very plainly I didn't want anyone hurt, that should have been enough. Common sense says that if I don't want anyone hurt, I don't want them to blow up. As if people need more reasons to dislike people who vaped you just give more reasons. Good job. /done
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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You don't think things/words have different means in different areas/cultures? Guess again.

I said very plainly I didn't want anyone hurt, that should have been enough. Common sense says that if I don't want anyone hurt, I don't want them to blow up. As if people need more reasons to dislike people who vaped you just give more reasons. Good job. /done
:lol:
I mean, I already know you're a tool, so I'm not overly concerned.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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You don't think things/words have different means in different areas/cultures? Guess again.

I said very plainly I didn't want anyone hurt, that should have been enough. Common sense says that if I don't want anyone hurt, I don't want them to blow up. As if people need more reasons to dislike people who vaped you just give more reasons. Good job. /done

well, nakedfrog is correct: the device is called a vaporizer. no one really calls the device "vapers." It's certainly not common and if you've ever heard it referred that way, then it would be an extremely small niche group of people; quite likely those who don't even use one.

A "vaper" is commonly understood to be the person that vapes.
 

Ichinisan

Lifer
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well, nakedfrog is correct: the device is called a vaporizer. no one really calls the device "vapers." It's certainly not common and if you've ever heard it referred that way, then it would be an extremely small niche group of people; quite likely those who don't even use one.

A "vaper" is commonly understood to be the person that vapes.

When I first heard the term "vaper," it was like 8 or 9 years ago when someone opened up "The Vaper Shop" in my town. The devices are universally referred to as "vapers" around here. I'm sure we all know they are "vaporizers," but that's twice as many syllables and no one that has to use the word regularly will say "vaporizer."
 

Ichinisan

Lifer
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You'll find lots of such examples for almost any mass-produced item with a rechargeable battery. It bothers me that people keep attributing these problems to particular models of phones, laptops, "hoverboards," etc.

Sure, the cheaper-sourced batteries are a lot more likely to do it, but there are always examples of devices like the latest iPhone blowing up. Apple devices go through a lot of QC, but they're manufactured in such volume that some bad batteries are practically guaranteed to reach a few users. Then you have the problem of dangerous counterfeit chargers and aftermarket batteries in "refurbished" devices making this even more common.
 

Ackmed

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well, nakedfrog is correct: the device is called a vaporizer. no one really calls the device "vapers." It's certainly not common and if you've ever heard it referred that way, then it would be an extremely small niche group of people; quite likely those who don't even use one.

A "vaper" is commonly understood to be the person that vapes.

No he's not. Look at the post below you for evidence of it. Things are called different things in different places. I have heard them more times than not called 'vapers', the device that people use to vape. It was VERY clear in my original post that I didn't want anyone harmed, he is just too dense to get that. We were talking about e-cigs blowing up, the logical way of thinking was that I was talking about the device people use to vape, not the people who vape. Instead he just comes in tossing names and insults around, then calls me the tool. Hypocritical but whatever.

Not going to continue to go around and around about it, he took it the wrong way, his fault. Instead of using common sense or trying to find out what I meant, he just hurled insults. And I'm done talking about it.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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When I first heard the term "vaper," it was like 8 or 9 years ago when someone opened up "The Vaper Shop" in my town. The devices are universally referred to as "vapers" around here. I'm sure we all know they are "vaporizers," but that's twice as many syllables and no one that has to use the word regularly will say "vaporizer."
Very strange, this thread marks the first time I've encountered such usage. What region is this, and are you fellows in the same region?
No he's not. Look at the post below you for evidence of it. Things are called different things in different places. I have heard them more times than not called 'vapers', the device that people use to vape. It was VERY clear in my original post that I didn't want anyone harmed, he is just too dense to get that. We were talking about e-cigs blowing up, the logical way of thinking was that I was talking about the device people use to vape, not the people who vape. Instead he just comes in tossing names and insults around, then calls me the tool. Hypocritical but whatever.

Not going to continue to go around and around about it, he took it the wrong way, his fault. Instead of using common sense or trying to find out what I meant, he just hurled insults. And I'm done talking about it.
I don't think you're using the word "hypocritical" correctly there.
And to be honest, I was just tossing names/insults around because I don't like you, and you gave me an opportunity. Generally I ignore your posts. I plan to continue this pattern of generally ignoring you, but occasionally tossing out a barb if the mood strikes me.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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No he's not. Look at the post below you for evidence of it. Things are called different things in different places. I have heard them more times than not called 'vapers', the device that people use to vape. It was VERY clear in my original post that I didn't want anyone harmed, he is just too dense to get that. We were talking about e-cigs blowing up, the logical way of thinking was that I was talking about the device people use to vape, not the people who vape. Instead he just comes in tossing names and insults around, then calls me the tool. Hypocritical but whatever.

Not going to continue to go around and around about it, he took it the wrong way, his fault. Instead of using common sense or trying to find out what I meant, he just hurled insults. And I'm done talking about it.

Of course I am aware that things are called different things in different places. Do you call it soda, pop, or Coke? Ichnisian calls it "Coke" where he is from.

In the winter, I wear a taboggan on my head. I bet that sounds strange to you...

This thread (your post), marks the first time that I have ever heard "vaper" referring to the vaporizer, and it is a device that is relatively new: maybe ~5 or 8 years for the tobacco/nicotine varieties, ~15 years+ for the "dry herb" types--the only ones that I am actually familiar with...and for most of those years I have used one in some form or another.

In all that time, being experienced with "vaping" from the east to west coast, the southwest and midwest, I have never encountered this use of the word.

Just saying.
 

Ichinisan

Lifer
Oct 9, 2002
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Of course I am aware that things are called different things in different places. Do you call it soda, pop, or Coke? Ichnisian calls it "Coke" where he is from.
Well, most people around here just say "get me a drink" or "get me a soda." "Coke" is rarely used as a generic term in the part of Georgia where I grew up. When we say "Coke," we usually mean "Coca Cola Classic(tm)." Coca Cola HQ is here, so it's not a "generic" term. It's probably the biggest brand identity on the planet.

"You got any soda?"
"You want a Sprite?"

We would never ever substitute "Coke" in those phrases.

However, if I said "just get me a Coke" and someone got me a Pepsi or something else, I wouldn't really care.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Well, most people around here just say "get me a drink" or "get me a soda." "Coke" is rarely used as a generic term in the part of Georgia where I grew up. When we say "Coke," we usually mean "Coca Cola Classic(tm)." Coca Cola HQ is here, so it's not a "generic" term. It's probably the biggest brand identity on the planet.

"You got any soda?"
"You want a Sprite?"

We would never ever substitute "Coke" in those phrases.

However, if I said "just get me a Coke" and someone got me a Pepsi or something else, I wouldn't really care.

I always just called it what it is (I am also from the "Coke" region). If I want a coke, I ask for a coke. Pepsi = pepsi. Sprite = Sprite, etc.

I never liked the words "soda," and especially not "pop."

Pop is a horribly stupid word.
 

Ackmed

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Oct 1, 2003
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Very strange, this thread marks the first time I've encountered such usage. What region is this, and are you fellows in the same region?

I don't think you're using the word "hypocritical" correctly there.
And to be honest, I was just tossing names/insults around because I don't like you, and you gave me an opportunity. Generally I ignore your posts. I plan to continue this pattern of generally ignoring you, but occasionally tossing out a barb if the mood strikes me.

You took things the wrong way, and that has now been verified by another. You were wrong. You acted like a tool, while calling me one. That is hypocritical.

But I'm not going to keep going back and forth about it. I don't give a fuck if you like me or not, I don't even recall seeing your name until this topic. I don't expect an apology even though you were obviously wrong.
 

CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
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Of course I am aware that things are called different things in different places. Do you call it soda, pop, or Coke? Ichnisian calls it "Coke" where he is from.
LOL! Someone made a fancy infographic that was totally wrong, immediately refuted, and yet you bought it hook, line, and sinker! It's just like that "mythbusting" ... myth that's been spreading around saying that blowing on NES cartridges had no effect. I encountered another one of those yesterday.

I've pointed out before every time that map has come up that it was incorrect. Though it has this region labeled as a region that says "Coke" to mean "Pop," I have only ever seen one person generically refer to a soft drink as "Coke" regardless of flavor, and that persons was from out of state. Just because I don't have a fancy info graphic you ignore me. I have spent decades here. Who do you consider to be the authority on this subject? I also pointed out that the base assumption that all regions casually refer to soft drinks in the first place is incorrect. It's just called a "drink" here. The only reason anyone uses the word soda is in conversations like this where we have to distinguish. If you ordered a combo at a drive thru and did not specify the drink, they will ask you what "drink you want. If someone goes into a convenience store to pick up sweet non-alcoholic beverages, they will ask the people waiting in the car what kind of "drink" they want. We don't say soda, we don't say pop, and we sure as heck would never say "what kind of Coke do you want?" unless we were LITERALLY trying to distinguish between varieties of Coca-Cola (Classic, Diet, Vanilla, Caffiene Free, Zero, Cherry, etc).

Perhaps that's where the confusion comes from. All varieties aren't available in all regions so someone asking for a "Cherry Coke" might sound like they are calling a cherry soft drink "Coke." There is an Aqua track where they act like Cherry Coke is some bygone product when it isn't here (some song about missing the '80s).
 
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zinfamous

No Lifer
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Oh god--i was worried that this one ^ would be summoned

How about you bottle that righteous indignation and go complain about the immoral travesty! of some dude posting some conspiratorial lies about an improper way to clean an obsolete video game cartridge?

by the way, it's hard to argue against the "soda" map when that was produced based on the type of survey data that you use (anecdotal personal experience of a yes/no variety) to attack it. That, and I'm sure your N value is rather lacking.

I've lived in NC for 25 years +. I'm part of that demographic, yet I also don't say Coke.

I'm as much of an expert as you claim to be. I also know that this does not make the graphic any less valid.
 
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JEDIYoda

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LOL! Someone made a fancy info graphic that was totally wron and yet you bought it hook, line, and sinker! It's just like that mythbusting myth that's been spreading around saying that blowing on NES cartridges had no effect.

I've pointed out before every time that maps has come up that it was incorrect. Though it has this region labeled as a region that says "Coke" to mean "Pop," I have only ever seen one person generically refer to a soft drink as "Coke" regardless of flavor, and that persons was from out of state. Just because I don't have a fancy info graphic you ignore me. I have spent decades here. Who do you consider to be the authority on this subject? I also pointed out that the base assumption that all regions casually refer to soft drinks in the first place is incorrect. It's just called a "drink" here. The only reason anyone uses the word soda is in conversations like this where we have to distinguish. If you ordered a combo at a drive thru and did not specify the drink, they will ask you what "drink you want. If someone goes into a convenience store to pick up sweet non-alcoholic beverages, they will ask the people waiting in the car what kind of "drink" they want. We don't say soda, we don't say pop, and we sure as heck would never say "what kind of Coke do you want?" unless we were LITERALLY trying to distinguish between varieties of Coca-Cola (Classic, Diet, Vanilla, Caffiene Free, Zero, Cherry, etc).

Perhaps that's where the confusion comes from. All varieties aren't available in all regions so someone asking for a "Cherry Coke" might sound like they are calling a cherry soft drink "Coke." There is an Aqua track where they act like Cherry Coke is some bygone product when it isn't here (some song about missing the '80s).
There are always exceptions to the rule.....hard to accept that you are the exception??
 

CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
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Oh god--i was worried that this one ^ would be summoned

How about you bottle that righteous indignation and go complain about the immoral travesty! of some dude posting some conspiratorial lies about an improper way to clean an obsolete video game cartridge?

by the way, it's hard to argue against the "soda" map when that was produced based on the type of survey data that you use (anecdotal personal experience of a yes/no variety) to attack it. That, and I'm sure your N value is rather lacking.

I've lived in NC for 25 years +. I'm part of that demographic, yet I also don't say Coke.

I'm as much of an expert as you claim to be. I also know that this does not make the graphic any less valid.
That's not the problem. The problem is gullible idiots spreading misinformation because it came packaged in a fancy way from a seemingly authoritative source. How does it feel to be a tool?

The graphic is invalid from the start because it assumes that all regions have a similarly descriptive word in the same context.
 
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CZroe

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There are always exceptions to the rule.....hard to accept that you are the exception??

Hard to accept that there is a FLAW in the basic assumption that each region uses a specific but different word in identical context?
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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The graphic is invalid from the start because it assumes that all regions have a similarly descriptive word in the same context.

No. The graphic is valid because it tracks word usage over a specifically set period of time. It does not imply that everyone in each region uses the same word in the same context that it reports, but that the rate of such usage is significantly higher in those regions, thus earning the label of dialect region.

Of course word usage and dialect changes over time, and migrates from region to region, as it always has, as it always will. Nevertheless, that is an informative graphic for a topic that was observed before you were an embryo.

You suck at this. Damn it--go back to filing your game cartridges. I'm sure your justice is needed elswhere.
 
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