Except there are Muslim doctors who've become terrorists and there are poor countries around the world where people don't blow themselves up for their religion / cause.
It's not about Islam. More Muslims live in Indonesia than any other country in the world, and the failure of Al-Qaeda to gain traction in that country like it has in others (like Saudi Arabia) is simple: Indonesia has a middle class. Indonesia has a middle class because the country's economy is not based solely on the export of oil. The only way Islamic terrorism will ever be defeated is by developing the economies of the Middle East.
Ugh.... here we go again...
UPDATE 3:35 p.m. ET: Police said they were confident they had been able to identify the gunman, whom they had in custody. They did not release his identity, but they said they had confirmed that they had "reason to believe" he was connected to the Oslo bombing.
NRK reporter Astrid Randen quoted witnesses as saying the man described as "tall, blond and Nordic-looking" and speaking Norwegian wore a police uniform and summoned youth campers to gather around him before he "just executed them."
Except there are Muslim doctors who've become terrorists and there are poor countries around the world where people don't blow themselves up for their religion / cause.
are there any other anti-authoritarian groups in that area?
Hi, I'm statistics and probability, it's nice to meet you.
My standard response seems so fitting now.
Damn Swedes!
Well we can speculate all day long about what inspired batshit crazy fuckheads to be batshit crazy, but the reality is we will never truly know. What we do know is some innocent people were killed today on purpose by this batshit crazy fuckheads. So the real question is what do we do about it. The way yo write youd think we should all apologize to the fuckheads for not being fuckheads.
Not much. The US and Europe have been meddling in the Middle East for decades if not centuries. If Islamic terror is on the rise in the West it's primarily because the world is becoming "smaller" in terms of communications and travel and because Muslim terrorists can hide among non-terrorist Muslims in the West now (Muslims using Western tolerance as a shield).
Beyond agreeing on an exact definition of being rational, my point is mostly that you have to be consistent about it. Again, if you're going to act like they are simply motivated by foreign policies of the west, then you have to explain how the murder Van Gogh fits into that agenda.
Meddling, yes, but two full scale invasions and ten years of occupation? I'll agree with your statement of the world shrinking, but I believe that the increased fundamentalist activity is a reaction to increased western provocations.
You see where I'm going with this? Call the invasions the sparks igniting the fire. If the western civilizations has been targeted as the enemy due to the invasions and occupations, then anyone western is a potential target. We already know terrorists prefer high-profile targets to get the message out.
mabe Israeli spies did it? like the ones found in New Zealand a few days ago. oh sorry, i forgot.....Moooslims....booga booga booga. lol
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4381749...t-nz-quake-exposes-possible-israeli-spy-ring/
mabe Israeli spies did it? like the ones found in New Zealand a few days ago. oh sorry, i forgot.....Moooslims....booga booga booga. lol
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4381749...t-nz-quake-exposes-possible-israeli-spy-ring/
That's not really a valid response and I think you know it. There are huge numbers of third-worlders who don't engage in this type of violence. If what many Islam apologists say is true and there aren't that many Islamic terrorists, then the fact that many terrorists in the news
aren't poor undermines your theory.
Of course it's a valid response.
The Middle East is not Third World like most of sub-Saharan Africa. Have you been to the Middle East and sub-Saharan Africa? Sub-Saharan Africa largely doesn't even have the technological infrastructure that would allow Al-Qaeda's or whatever terrorist group du jour's messages to be disseminated. There are huge numbers of poor people in the United States who don't commit crimes, either, but who commits most crime in America?
Sure, a few terrorists are physicians. Most of the leadership of these crazy groups are well-educated and well-off. But look at the majority of the foot soldiers, err, suicide bombers. They're underemployed males in the prime of life. They become terrorists because they have nothing to lose.
How familiar are you with the history of the Muslim world? I'm certainly not going to make the argument that Islam is the religion of peace, but until the rise of global-scale oil exploitation, Muslims were no more or less violent than Christians and Jews, the other monotheistics religions (which are comparatively more violent than other religions). You've heard of the Crusades, yes?
Islam is not the reason brown people are blowing shit up in the white man's back yard. Having no economic hope and having no voice drive people to criminality. Having God's blessings makes it easier to commit increasingly heinous crimes.
Hopefully they cant even sleep at night thinking a Hellfire is going to hit the building...haha.
This is exactly what these nutjobs want - to die in battle in a Holy War against the Great Satan.
Whiskey...Tango...Foxtrot......
You are one racist bastard. Someone is already claiming this bombing,. sorry that you dont get to feed your jew-hating erection.
This is exactly what these nutjobs want - to die in battle in a Holy War against the Great Satan.
shut up, OCGay, anyone can 'claim' responsibilty. has the 'claim' been authenticated? i didnt read the article so i dont know who it is lol. anyway, qui bono? who benefits? certainly not muslims. spies are known for setting up false flags all the time. theres a muslim angle and theres an israeli angle. dont be one-sided all the time. but thanks for resorting to name calling. shows your true character.
This is exactly what these nutjobs want - to die in battle in a Holy War against the Great Satan.
But please, continue calling anyone who disagrees with you an "Islamic apologist." A decade later, thousands of American and allied lives later, trillions of dollars later, it's crystal clear that Hellfire missiles are winning the war on terror!
Now we are resorting to homophobia? If I was gay, would that make my opinion somehow less valid?
Let me guess...9/11 truther? It was the jooz that brought down the towerzzz!!!11 right?
Why dont you do us all a favor and walk around the beloved patriot/Afghani border with your brothers for a while....maybe a 20 year old with a joystick in South Dakota will see you, and send you a present.
Well, the rural regions of Afghanistan and the Pakistani border, where Al-Qaeda and The Taliban recruit villagers, do not exactly have 3G wireless service for Twitter feeds...Sub-Saharan Africa largely doesn't even have the technological infrastructure that would allow Al-Qaeda's or whatever terrorist group du jour's messages to be disseminated.
One reason that poor people commit more violent crimes for personal gain (including drug / gang violence) is because they are not in a position to commit white-collar crimes, which carry less risk and have the potential for much greater rewards. White-collar crime is also more difficult to detect, especially if it is an insider threat. I imagine that a large percentage of it goes unreported.There are huge numbers of poor people in the United States who don't commit crimes, either, but who commits most crime in America?