Explosion reported at Brussel airport

[ALIVE]

well lets see

people from another country
enter ILLEGALLY in your country
and you reward them with nationality and they do not work but live on welfare
and then because they are too many you raise taxes and cut welfare from the people in the country

and when this people get bored they start killing people
the person you bomb paris have you watch his video where he was laughitng

he had a car with bodies and was laughing and said
i was in Europe i had money i had a jeep and a jet ski
but that was not life
now i am living look at my back of the car where he had the bodies


so yes it make sense
keep bringing them in the country
give them money
and then fuck up th life of all people
with less freedom and police state


if we are going to be a police state why no sent them all this fuckers back in desert and finish with them

no Muslims no terrorist attacks

 

[waggy]

I'd say the attacks in Europe are in an effort to get European authorities to close their borders. The largest influx of people out of ISIS controlled territory are going to Europe. ISIS needs Europes borders closed because they need the fleeing tax base to continue their war.

Interesting. very possible i guess. Thats one way to look at it.

Withdraw completely from the Middle East and stop immigration from those countries.

good start.

pull all troops out of the ME. Thought that was obama's #1 thing he wanted done? why ware we sending troops when we should be leaving. It's obvious that they aren't helping shit.

 

[mikeymikec]

The horde of Muslims should be treated as invaders and not refugees.

Ok, you're either completely ignorant of the situation in Syria or you're happy to wilfully misrepresent it.

so we shouldn't enforce any laws at all because some people will still break them?

That question would be better addressed at a person who is idiotic enough to believe in absolutes.

I'd say you don't get one without the other... but that's a bit of a misnomer.
A proper frame of reference is that terrorists can come through any open border.
The simple solution is a closed border, which prevents both terrorists and refugees. They're in the same boat even though you can have one without the other.

Errr, there are loads of historic examples of terrorists where no refugees were to be seen. The IRA is one example.

In reality there's no such thing as a closed border. Even if a country was to stop all incoming and outgoing traffic (which would be economic suicide), this would simply create black market opportunities for people whose interests run counter to that country's policy.

Even if a country like Germany employed millions of armed border guards to monitor every square inch of border line, there are still opportunities for those who have sufficient intelligence and ingenuity to get through. It's probably easier than it was in say WW2 for people to evade border controls, especially considering that ISIS has significant resources at its disposal, it is probably getting passports manufactured at their respective sources so that its people can infiltrate Europe. There are much cheaper methods of course (e.g. bribe/blackmail some border guards).

 

[tynopik]

What 'strong' measures did they take that led to this success?

very tight immigration controls for one

 

[tynopik]

(already covered)

 

[SMOGZINN]

very tight immigration controls for one

Immigration is a red herring. It does not take immigration to blow up a airport, all it takes is a passport. Something ISIS is capable of issuing.

 

[SP33Demon]

Time to enact temp ban of Muslims. Those civilians were defenseless sitting ducks.

 

[William Gaatjes]

The problem is that mothers from young men who went to fight in Syria already warned several Belgian politicians that this would happen. That was a few years ago. These mothers were never taken seriously. One of the women carried a picture of her deceased son who radicalized and went to Syria. She wrote many letters to the Belgian government about this issue. The radicalization has been going on for a long time and many people with an Islamic background warned about it several years ago. The western world should stop being civilized against people who preach hate and murder but continue to help people in need.

 

[tynopik]

Immigration is a red herring.

Continually denying the truth doesn't make it any less true.

It does not take immigration to blow up a airport, all it takes is a passport. Something ISIS is capable of issuing.

How does an ISIS passport allow you to get to a Japanese airport with a bomb?

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Many people like being lied to when it's the kind of lies they want to hear. I don't understand this mentality myself as it angers me to be lied to, no matter which direction on the political spectrum the lies emanate from. One thing I've noticed is that people repeating this crap around here are more often failing to link their sources, knowing that the sources are not generally viewed as credible, and not wanting to suffer the embarrassment of being identified as a sucker once again.

What's incredible about this particular BS is that someone like DSF actually claims to believe Obama could have meant something which is almost literally impossible, as if Obama would tell a lie that absurd and easily disproven. Even if they can believe Obama is that morally bankrupt, how can they believe he is that stupid? Maybe they're projecting.

I understand full well what Obama said and the context in which it was said....and it's complete horse shit. Those resisting Syrian immigration are not in any way "scared of widows and 3-years old orphans" as Obama asserts, the reality is that most want to be assured that we have effective vetting processes in place to assure that we don't inadvertently admit terrorists into the country. Is his hyperbolic rhetoric and blatantly dishonest framing of this issue really that hard to understand?

 

[dainthomas]

I always thought it was weak security to allow people, carrying luggage, to walk with no security checks until they get to the security check area.

I wont be surprised if we change the rule and only allow ticketed passengers inside an airport.. Israel does this I believe.

Because terrorists couldn't buy tickets.

 

[Brian Stirling]

no, they just need to let more radicals in, give them more free stuff, and hugs. And then everyone will live together in peace.

Congratulation ... this is the first post you've made in recorded history that didn't include the word 'liberal'. Of course, the post just above did so...


OTH, the lefties on this forum and elsewhere jump through some amazing hoops to disconnect the idiocy of bringing in hundreds of thousands of people from the middle east and diverting blame for the consequences when too many wind up being terrorists.


Brian

 

[jackstar7]

Withdraw completely from the Middle East and stop immigration from those countries.

Best get a new energy supply going.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Time to enact temp ban of Muslims. Those civilians were defenseless sitting ducks.

because nobody would ever lie about their religious affiliations, and you can ID muslims by their skin tone or accent, right?

 

[SP33Demon]

Best get a new energy supply going.

The u.s.has the largest coal reserve in the world

 

[SP33Demon]

because nobody would ever lie about their religious affiliations, and you can ID muslims by their skin tone or accent, right?

Country of origin, try to keep up

 

[tynopik]

because nobody would ever lie about their religious affiliations, and you can ID muslims by their skin tone or accent, right?

blocking immigration from muslim-majority countries would be a good start

 

[SMOGZINN]

How does an ISIS passport allow you to get to a Japanese airport with a bomb?

They don't need to bring the bomb with them, they build it once there. Two weeks is plenty of time to build a bomb. Even if they were as slow as you I imagine that just overstaying their visa would buy them enough time to buy the simple ingredients needed to build one before enforcement could find them.

 

[dank69]

Country of origin, try to keep up

So, for example, everyone from Syria is Muslim?

 

[dank69]

only the laws restricting immigration

because enforcement of those laws can't be 100% effective, so we shouldn't even try

unlike every other law on the books

Nope. Still don;t see anyone claiming we shouldn't have laws restricting immigration.

 

[tynopik]

They don't need to bring the bomb with them, they build it once there. Two weeks is plenty of time to build a bomb. Even if they were as slow as you I imagine that just overstaying their visa would buy them enough time to buy the simple ingredients needed to build one before enforcement could find them.

Right, so first off, you need more than just an ISIS passport, you have to get a VISA from Japan, so they investigate you and your proposed purpose for coming. Then you're probably not going to be allowed to rent any substantial property so you'll have to work out of your apartment. Most suicide bombers aren't actually skilled at making bombs (for obvious reasons) so typically they need a support network.

The sort of lone wolf attack you posit, while possible, is more in the realm of fantasy than reality. And certainly far far less common than more traditional attacks.

 

[tynopik]

So, for example, everyone from Syria is Muslim?

why do you only work in absolutes?

It doesn't have to be 'everyone', just 'substantial percentage'

 

[soundforbjt]

So, for example, everyone from Syria is Muslim?

And nobody gets radicalized in another country...

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Country of origin, try to keep up

I'd say try to be less of a dick, but I'm pretty sure you're dickless to begin with.

Country of origin, yea, that will work
So no muslims in canada or england or france
no wonder you're so enamored of drumpf

 

[tynopik]

Nope. Still don;t see anyone claiming we shouldn't have laws restricting immigration.

no, just that we shouldn't enforce those laws because

a) they make no difference

Wow, you think that if law is properly enforced, there is no lawlessness?

Immigration is a red herring.

So terrorists will respect borders? Fascinating.

b) it's too hard

Can you explain how these logistics and technology would work?

Anyone who says we could limit illegal entry to 'a trickle' without 'unreasonable difficulty' has likely massively underestimated the scope and cost of these changes.