Extension cord needs a break in. More you use it, better the connected audio system sounds...

NeoPTLD

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Best Buy employees typically assume they're talking to a clueless consumer who knows nothing about electrical theory. As someone who has a clue, I find Best Buy employees say the funniest things.

A nearby Best Buy has a surge protector/filter thingy made by Monster Cable on display. The case has a little knob thing to let select between "direct power" and "filtered power". It has a speaker to demonstrate the noise and a LCD to show amount of noise in numbers that have no units. The thing sounds like an AM radio that isn't tuned in along with a high number on LCD when you have the knob set to "direct power". Almost silent and a low value on LCD with the knob in "filtered power mode" It even changes sound as you get closer or walk away from it which is why I think it's an AM radio of some sort.

Anyways, I asked this sales guy if I can see inside the retail setup saying that I wanted to see how it's detecting the noise.

The case couldn't be opened, but the sales guy goes on and on and on that this $200 overpriced surge protector in metal casing will make a differnece in how my system sounds. He then says it has to be used for about 100 hrs to be really effective claiming the cable needs a break in. I said that's total non-sense. He restates that more you use it, the better your system will sound. He tries to reason his way through with a lecture on chemistry of copper that is utterly irrelevant by telling me copper has 32 electrons and they're all over the place until you start using the cable.

All I was asking was to have a look in the display case and this sales guy pulls this totally irrelevant non-sense out his butt. I couldn't help but laugh as I walked away from the area.

The sales people at Best Buy is so funny, because they restate the marketing claims they've been taught and add some non sense they've pulled out of their butt, but have no idea what the hell they're talking about.

Best Buy idiots are going to have a heart attack over it, could anyone give me a good argument why my would be speaker cable wouldn't be up to par?

Would be a great speaker cable

If I cut this in half and remove the ends and attach banana plugs or spades extremely well either crimping or soldering, I'll have two pairs of great quality speaker cable. I personally think they have more fashion designers to design the cable and marketing major graduates to promote non existant myths.

Compared to an equal length of high end 12 gauge speaker cables, I can't find one thing that would disqualify mine from the contest if you could excuse the scruffy looking yellow jacket.

It's even UL rated for up to 105 degree C
 

woowoo

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Some "High end" audiophiles believe in burning in your cables.
I think it's hogwash.....
 

Confused

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Heh...

Just as clueless as the idiot in the petrol station I went to yesterday, who got on the tannoy while I was filling up asking my GF to switch off her phone (she was sitting in the car on the phone).

I go in there and he says "you can't have a phone switched on in the garage, it will cause the place to blow up". I just smiled and nodded my head, then as I walked towards the door I said just loud enough for him to hear "Blow the place up? What a fvcking idiot", needless to say he gave me a stupid/angry look as I walked back to the car.
 

DaFinn

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Nah, you don't need to break it in for 100hrs, just put it in a microwawe oven for about 3 mins and listen to the sound...
 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: NeoPTLD
He tries to reason his way through with a lecture on chemistry of copper that is utterly irrelevant by telling me copper has 32 electrons and they're all over the place until you start using the cable.

Maybe, sort-of, kind-of, a little, in a not-quite-correct sort of way. If it was a MAGNET! (which would of course not be made of copper)

In which case this would work better anyway :

Originally posted by: WolverineGator
I usually use a hammer to speed the process since I'm impatient.
 

Bootprint

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Originally posted by: DaFinn
Nah, you don't need to break it in for 100hrs, just put it in a microwawe oven for about 3 mins and listen to the sound...

That works for the cables too? I thought that was for the newer Audio DVDs, 2 to 3 minutes in the microwave, so you don't have to play them at volume control 11 for 40 minutes and get that coating they put, on to burn off.
 

Scouzer

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Originally posted by: Confused
Heh...

Just as clueless as the idiot in the petrol station I went to yesterday, who got on the tannoy while I was filling up asking my GF to switch off her phone (she was sitting in the car on the phone).

I go in there and he says "you can't have a phone switched on in the garage, it will cause the place to blow up". I just smiled and nodded my head, then as I walked towards the door I said just loud enough for him to hear "Blow the place up? What a fvcking idiot", needless to say he gave me a stupid/angry look as I walked back to the car.


The funny thing is, you are wrong. The static electricity from cell phones, while EXTREMELY rare, can blow up a gas station....or more likely, just start a fire.
 

AndrewNF

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Originally posted by: Scouzer
Originally posted by: Confused
Heh...

Just as clueless as the idiot in the petrol station I went to yesterday, who got on the tannoy while I was filling up asking my GF to switch off her phone (she was sitting in the car on the phone).

I go in there and he says "you can't have a phone switched on in the garage, it will cause the place to blow up". I just smiled and nodded my head, then as I walked towards the door I said just loud enough for him to hear "Blow the place up? What a fvcking idiot", needless to say he gave me a stupid/angry look as I walked back to the car.


The funny thing is, you are wrong. The static electricity from cell phones, while EXTREMELY rare, can blow up a gas station....or more likely, just start a fire.

You'll notice a lot of gas stations have these signs, but there's no solid evidence at all to back this up. It's more an "erring on the side of caution" approach they take, to avoid a lawsuit if it ever turns out to be true.

Have a look.
 

hevnsnt

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Originally posted by: Scouzer
Originally posted by: Confused
Heh...

Just as clueless as the idiot in the petrol station I went to yesterday, who got on the tannoy while I was filling up asking my GF to switch off her phone (she was sitting in the car on the phone).

I go in there and he says "you can't have a phone switched on in the garage, it will cause the place to blow up". I just smiled and nodded my head, then as I walked towards the door I said just loud enough for him to hear "Blow the place up? What a fvcking idiot", needless to say he gave me a stupid/angry look as I walked back to the car.


The funny thing is, you are wrong. The static electricity from cell phones, while EXTREMELY rare, can blow up a gas station....or more likely, just start a fire.


funny thing is, no it can't. It has been proven over and over that this is an urban legend.
 

Scouzer

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Originally posted by: AndrewNF
Originally posted by: Scouzer
Originally posted by: Confused
Heh...

Just as clueless as the idiot in the petrol station I went to yesterday, who got on the tannoy while I was filling up asking my GF to switch off her phone (she was sitting in the car on the phone).

I go in there and he says "you can't have a phone switched on in the garage, it will cause the place to blow up". I just smiled and nodded my head, then as I walked towards the door I said just loud enough for him to hear "Blow the place up? What a fvcking idiot", needless to say he gave me a stupid/angry look as I walked back to the car.


The funny thing is, you are wrong. The static electricity from cell phones, while EXTREMELY rare, can blow up a gas station....or more likely, just start a fire.

You'll notice a lot of gas stations have these signs, but there's no solid evidence at all to back this up. It's more an "erring on the side of caution" approach they take, to avoid a lawsuit if it ever turns out to be true.

Have a look.


Fair enough. But Confused still wasn't correct in thinking he's a bloody looney
 

djheater

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Originally posted by: Scouzer
Originally posted by: AndrewNF
Originally posted by: Scouzer
Originally posted by: Confused
Heh...

Just as clueless as the idiot in the petrol station I went to yesterday, who got on the tannoy while I was filling up asking my GF to switch off her phone (she was sitting in the car on the phone).

I go in there and he says "you can't have a phone switched on in the garage, it will cause the place to blow up". I just smiled and nodded my head, then as I walked towards the door I said just loud enough for him to hear "Blow the place up? What a fvcking idiot", needless to say he gave me a stupid/angry look as I walked back to the car.


The funny thing is, you are wrong. The static electricity from cell phones, while EXTREMELY rare, can blow up a gas station....or more likely, just start a fire.

You'll notice a lot of gas stations have these signs, but there's no solid evidence at all to back this up. It's more an "erring on the side of caution" approach they take, to avoid a lawsuit if it ever turns out to be true.

Have a look.


Fair enough. But Confused still wasn't correct in thinking he's a bloody looney


It's the static of the PERSON that starts the fire, not the cell phone. Typically a woman in sheer clothing who gets BACK into her car while filling up, then does not discharge when she gets back out. The intervening time has allowed a cloud of vapor to form around the nozzle at the gas tank and when she touches it, a spark of discharge, and then a fire...

This has been shown as the cause in these fires numerous times...
 

djheater

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Static Electricity Causes Gas Pump Fires

Analysis

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Another version

The central claim in this message is true. A survey conducted by the Petroleum Equipment Institute showed that a significant number of gas station fires are caused every year by static electicity. Consumers need to be aware of the danger and learn how to safeguard themselves against possible injury (see resources below for important consumer info).

"The fact is," PEI spokesman J. Rex Brown confirmed in an email message, "static electricity has caused fires at gas stations. We have documented cases and even have some on video. Unlike the cell phone scare (which was started by a major oil company and PEI was never able to document) this situation is rare, but a very real problem."

The Petroleum Equipment Institute recommends the following simple precautions to avoid causing static fires while refueling:

Always turn off the engine.
Don't smoke near gas pumps.
Never re-enter your vehicle while refueling.
While the author of the email got the main (and most important) point right, he or she also contributed a few exaggerations and falsehoods. Here's a comparison of the email's claims with what was actually documented in the PEI study:


Out of 150 cases, almost all of them were women.
EXAGGERATED. According to news reports, investigators found that 78% (or roughly three-quarters) of the static-caused fires involved women, who apparently have a greater tendency to return to the vehicle while refueling.

Almost all cases involved the person getting back in their vehicle while the nozzle was still pumping gas...
EXAGGERATED. Around two-thirds of the documented cases involved the subject returning to the driver's seat.

Most had on rubber-soled shoes.
UNDETERMINED. The report says that in 94% of the cases where footwear was identified the subjects were wearing rubber-soled shoes. But type of shoe was not identified in every case.

Most men never get back in their vehicle until completely finished. This is why they are seldom involved in these types of fires.
EXAGGERATED. At least 20% of the documented cases involved males.

Don't ever use cell phones when pumping gas.
FALSE & IRRELEVANT. The report flatly states that cell phone use was not a factor in any of the reported incidents.

It is the vapors that come out of the gas that cause the fire, when connected with static charges.
TRUE, though not explicitly stated in the report.

Several of the 150 cases (not nearly all, but several) involved 1994 Dodge Caravans.
FALSE. Out of the 81 incidents broken down by make and model in the summary report, exactly one involved a 1994 Dodge Caravan. (Six other incidents involved Dodge Caravans of various manufacture dates.)
 

NeoPTLD

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For your entertainment, you ought to take the whole gas station thing to nearest Best Buy...
 
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