Extra point in Pro Football. whats the point of it?

OutHouse

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IMO it should be done away with and replace it with the 2 point conversion. when was the last time you see a missed or blocked extra point in the NFL???
 

OutHouse

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It makes a touchdown/extra point more valuable then 2 field goals. If a team is up by 7 they can't tie with field goals, they need to get in the end zone.

the 2 point conversion would equal it out. the extra point is so useless the kickers make it 99.99% of the time so i think its time to tweak it.
 

DrPizza

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It makes a touchdown/extra point more valuable then 2 field goals. If a team is up by 7 they can't tie with field goals, they need to get in the end zone.

Perhaps if a team can't make the 2 point conversion, they deserve to be tied with a pair of field goals.
 

Slick5150

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The whole point of the 2-point conversion is the risk/reward of even trying it. The extra point being a near sure thing, you're better off taking it until you HAVE to go for 2 due to the score of the game.

Eliminating it and forcing teams to go for 2 would just turn the whole thing into a crap shoot
 

silverpig

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Perhaps if a team can't make the 2 point conversion, they deserve to be tied with a pair of field goals.

...which is exactly the way it is right now

Of course there's the added twist of choosing to not take the near-guaranteed single point to go for that chance.
 

bunnyfubbles

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The XFL tried eliminating the extra point kick and forcing teams to run a play to score the extra point, and the result was a measly 40% success rate

I guess you just don't understand the concept of choice in strategy.
 

OutHouse

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The XFL tried eliminating the extra point kick and forcing teams to run a play to score the extra point, and the result was a measly 40% success rate

I guess you just don't understand the concept of choice in strategy.

The extra point now is pretty much a freebie so yea I don't get what the strategy is with giving points away
 

Miramonti

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It's a very stupid play, one that is extremely successful and does nothing to better the game.

Yes missing it can affect the game, which rarely happens, but the end doesn't justify the means. What do you expect from a game that took it's name from a completely different sport.
 

mjrpes3

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The whole point of the 2-point conversion is the risk/reward of even trying it. The extra point being a near sure thing, you're better off taking it until you HAVE to go for 2 due to the score of the game.

Eliminating it and forcing teams to go for 2 would just turn the whole thing into a crap shoot

It doesn't need to be forced. They could set it up so the team would get 1 point if they declined to try the conversion. If the attempted the conversion, they would get 2 points on success and 0 points on failure.

Play strategy would not change.
 

bunnyfubbles

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The extra point now is pretty much a freebie so yea I don't get what the strategy is with giving points away

because its either take the 99% extra point, or go with the 40-50% gamble, and it works because its not a free extra point, you still have to go through the paces and perform the play

if you force everyone to go for 2, its basically just a weighted coin flip to see if there's a 33% advantage netted to the score that just occurred...and that's just completely dumb, there's far more strategy to having the choice of what is basically a free point and less than 50% chance for 2.

heck, while we're at it, lets go back to pre-1906 rules and abolish the forward pass, that will even out the playing field even more! No more fooling the defense!

You might have had somewhat of an argument back when the NFL was playing without the 2 point conversion, but the better argument still would have been to add the 2 point conversion rather than eliminate the easy kick
 

purbeast0

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last extra point i remember seeing missed was i believe 2 years ago when the redskins were down 7 points and on the last drive of the game they scored and it was 16-17.

this was one of the recent years that they had gano who sucks, and the skins have sucked, and my brother and i were both like 'hold up, he hasnt made the extra point yet don't get too excited'.

the snap for the extra point went right through the holders hands and they didn't even attempt to kick the extra point, and lost the game 16-17.

so yea, it can have a big effect on the game.
 

OutHouse

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because its either take the 99% extra point, or go with the 40-50% gamble, and it works because its not a free extra point, you still have to go through the paces and perform the play

if you force everyone to go for 2, its basically just a weighted coin flip to see if there's a 33% advantage netted to the score that just occurred...and that's just completely dumb, there's far more strategy to having the choice of what is basically a free point and less than 50% chance for 2.

heck, while we're at it, lets go back to pre-1906 rules and abolish the forward pass, that will even out the playing field even more! No more fooling the defense!

You might have had somewhat of an argument back when the NFL was playing without the 2 point conversion, but the better argument still would have been to add the 2 point conversion rather than eliminate the easy kick

dont agree at all. if anything it would make the points mater a whole lot more.

Eliminate the stupid extra point and give touchdown's 7 points. teams then would have a chance to get 2 more points by getting one more down at the goal line.
 
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